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-- Posted by Lulamae at 12:33 pm on Oct. 24, 2008

I just had to sit there and listen to my father tell me about how it's all my fault that no one believed me about the rape, how I used to lie so much as a kid and therefore I shouldn't wonder.

Very sensitive, daddy, thank you!

I don't want to hear how it's all my fault anymore. I tell myself this often enough, I don't want to have other people keep telling me too.

/rant


-- Posted by kdog at 12:34 pm on Oct. 24, 2008

wow your dad is fucked.


-- Posted by Catzcore at 12:34 pm on Oct. 24, 2008

urgh parents. never understand..


-- Posted by BLUEAUTOMATIC at 12:34 pm on Oct. 24, 2008

It wasn't your fucking fault. Your Dad's a twat.

You're a lovely person, and what that cunt did to you is un-fucking-forgivable and you could never have done anything to have deserve it.


-- Posted by JustaKid at 12:35 pm on Oct. 24, 2008

wow it is not your fault. and your father is a fucking moron. if i was him i would be hunting that guy down with a shotgun. not sitting there telling you its your fault when it isnt.


-- Posted by Eos at 12:35 pm on Oct. 24, 2008

Quote: from BlueAutomatic at 8:34 pm on Oct. 24, 2008


It wasn't your fucking fault. Your Dad's a twat.

You're a lovely person, and what that cunt did to you is un-fucking-forgivable and you could never have done anything to have deserve it.



this.  


-- Posted by Natsy at 12:35 pm on Oct. 24, 2008

wtf????
all kids lie, what does that have to do with anything??
who would lie about RAPE for god's sake??


-- Posted by Lulamae at 12:35 pm on Oct. 24, 2008

Quote: from BlueAutomatic at 9:34 pm on Oct. 24, 2008


It wasn't your fucking fault. Your Dad's a twat.

You're a lovely person, and what that cunt did to you is un-fucking-forgivable and you could never have done anything to have deserve it.


Not to deserve having that done to me, but to deserve that no one believed me.

And he kept saying it with such conviction. Like he was basically filing my demeanor report.


-- Posted by BLUEAUTOMATIC at 12:38 pm on Oct. 24, 2008

Quote: from Lulamae at 8:35 pm on Oct. 24, 2008


Quote: from BlueAutomatic at 9:34 pm on Oct. 24, 2008

It wasn't your fucking fault. Your Dad's a twat.  

 You're a lovely person, and what that cunt did to you is un-fucking-forgivable and you could never have done anything to have deserve it.


Not to deserve having that done to me, but to deserve that no one believed me.

And he kept saying it with such conviction. Like he was basically filing my demeanor report.


I can't imagine anyone could lie so much that a decent human being could not believe them when they say they've been raped.


-- Posted by Lulamae at 12:39 pm on Oct. 24, 2008

Quote: from BlueAutomatic at 9:38 pm on Oct. 24, 2008


Quote: from Lulamae at 8:35 pm on Oct. 24, 2008

Quote: from BlueAutomatic at 9:34 pm on Oct. 24, 2008

It wasn't your fucking fault. Your Dad's a twat.

  You're a lovely person, and what that cunt did to you is un-fucking-forgivable and you could never have done anything to have deserve it.


 

 Not to deserve having that done to me, but to deserve that no one believed me.  

 And he kept saying it with such conviction. Like he was basically filing my demeanor report.


I can't imagine anyone could lie so much that a decent human being could not believe them when they say they've been raped.


Well, I didn't tell anyone for two years.

so, when I did at first it seemed like they believed me and then they noticed my cutting so they asked me why the fuck I'd do that and I told them that they should know why...and they asked me why I was using my imaginary problems-


-- Posted by scalywag66 at 12:39 pm on Oct. 24, 2008

I get what Dad is trying to say, because that's how I am with my lady.

She lies so much about EVERYTHING, that when she's being sincere(which is usually when she gets screwed over somehow), I still don't believe until I see it for myself.  

lol I tell her the same thing though.  

"It's your fault for lying so much that barely anyone besides new friends believe you"


-- Posted by Chiefette at 12:44 pm on Oct. 24, 2008

I get what you dad is saying.  If you lie about everything else, why would they believe you when you actually are telling the truth.  How are they supposed to know that it is not just another lie.  An example or crying wolf.


-- Posted by Lulamae at 12:46 pm on Oct. 24, 2008

Quote: from Glory at 9:44 pm on Oct. 24, 2008


I get what you dad is saying. If you lie about everything else, why would they believe you when you actually are telling the truth. How are they supposed to know that it is not just another lie. An example or crying wolf.

Well, because the lies he was talking about happened when I was 10.

Every kid lies. It was stuff like, "I have no homework," or, "I have a friend named Caitlyn and her mom lets her watch TV every day!"


-- Posted by scalywag66 at 12:56 pm on Oct. 24, 2008

Quote: from Lulamae at 12:46 pm on Oct. 24, 2008


Quote: from Glory at 9:44 pm on Oct. 24, 2008

I get what you dad is saying.  If you lie about everything else, why would they believe you when you actually are telling the truth.  How are they supposed to know that it is not just another lie.  An example or crying wolf.

Well, because the lies he was talking about happened when I was 10.  

Every kid lies. It was stuff like, "I have no homework," or, "I have a friend named Caitlyn and her mom lets her watch TV every day!"


Some people lie about dramatic stuff like getting raped or having a family member that died.  Why?  One could say for the attention, but maybe there's more to it


-- Posted by Duke at 12:57 pm on Oct. 24, 2008

Two problems for you. One apparently you are known for lying and two, you apparently have some major emotional psychological problems. That combination does instill confidence, plus some of the claims that you have made here from time to time.

I like all the people who jump in where there rants about what happened, when not one of them knows a fucking thing about what supposedly happened.


-- Posted by J BiGGZ at 1:00 pm on Oct. 24, 2008

See that is the problem you lied too much, therefore no one can trust you anymore. When you were younger you might of lied, but only like as a joke. Now that you're older you need to try to stop the lying. Rape is a serious issue today in society and it is nothing to joke about. I definitely thought That you're dad should of been more compassionate about your situation. I'm not sure what you lied about when you were younger, but it seems like the lies were pretty serious.

All you have to do is just change you're ways, and the. people will start to have that trust in you. Remember the story about "The boy who cried wolf"?, same situation. Try talking to someone else who you feel comfortable talking to, maybe a friend, or another family member. As you can see, lying is a very serious issue even if it is just playing around, or about little things.


-- Posted by rahawr at 1:14 pm on Oct. 24, 2008

aw your daddy's meannn


-- Posted by Tuski at 1:44 pm on Oct. 24, 2008

Quote: from kdog at 12:34 pm on Oct. 24, 2008


wow your dad is fucked.

Either fucked or honest


-- Posted by Duke at 2:33 pm on Oct. 24, 2008

Quote: from Tuski at 3:44 pm on Oct. 24, 2008


Quote: from kdog at 12:34 pm on Oct. 24, 2008

wow your dad is fucked.

Either fucked or honest


There's a certain element on here that never for a moment thinks that there could be merit to any position other than that taken by the person posting.


-- Posted by Delish at 2:40 pm on Oct. 24, 2008

Gosh your hair is cute.


-- Posted by BLUEAUTOMATIC at 3:08 pm on Oct. 24, 2008

Quote: from J BIGGZ at 9:00 pm on Oct. 24, 2008


See that is the problem you lied too much, therefore no one can trust you anymore. When you were younger you might of lied, but only like as a joke. Now that you're older you need to try to stop the lying. Rape is a serious issue today in society and it is nothing to joke about. I definitely thought That you're dad should of been more compassionate about your situation. I'm not sure what you lied about when you were younger, but it seems like the lies were pretty serious.  

All you have to do is just change you're ways, and the. people will start to have that trust in you. Remember the story about "The boy who cried wolf"?, same situation. Try talking to someone else who you feel comfortable talking to, maybe a friend, or another family member. As you can see, lying is a very serious issue even if it is just playing around, or about little things.


She lied as a child, big deal. However, she did get raped, and she's not lying or joking about. Why would she?


-- Posted by Duke at 3:31 pm on Oct. 24, 2008

Quote: from BlueAutomatic at 3:08 pm on Oct. 24, 2008


She lied as a child, big deal. However, she did get raped, and she's not lying or joking about. Why would she?

How do you know that she got raped? How do you know she's not lying or joking? Her own father thinks she is a liar, I would think he's in a better position than you to know whether she only lied about small things as a child, as opposed to major things now. You're one of those types of people I referred to earlier, who ask the silly question, why would she lie? Well, people lie for any number of reasons. Why would this girl lie about a black man robbing and beating her and carving letters on her face because she is a McCain supporter?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27350530/

I don't know anything about the OP, other than what she has posted here, and neither do you. I take a neutral position on whether she lied or whether her father is over-reacting. What I do know is that she admits she has lied, has a reputation in her family for lying and has some major emotional/psychological issues. Maybe you should also reserve judgment, instead of bulling ahead oblivious to everything just because you want to believe.


-- Posted by BLUEAUTOMATIC at 1:34 am on Oct. 25, 2008

Quote: from Duke at 11:31 pm on Oct. 24, 2008


Quote: from BlueAutomatic at 3:08 pm on Oct. 24, 2008

She lied as a child, big deal. However, she did get raped, and she's not lying or joking about. Why would she?

How do you know that she got raped? How do you know she's not lying or joking? Her own father thinks she is a liar, I would think he's in a better position than you to know whether she only lied about small things as a child, as opposed to major things now. You're one of those types of people I referred to earlier, who ask the silly question, why would she lie? Well, people lie for any number of reasons. Why would this girl lie about a black man robbing and beating her and carving letters on her face because she is a McCain supporter?  

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27350530/  

I don't know anything about the OP, other than what she has posted here, and neither do you. I take a neutral position on whether she lied or whether her father is over-reacting. What I do know is that she admits she has lied, has a reputation in her family for lying and has some major emotional/psychological issues. Maybe you should also reserve judgment, instead of bulling ahead oblivious to everything just because you want to believe.


1) Link is irrelevent.

2) She has admitted she lied as a child, you blind idiot. Children lie. I lied, about some weird shit, because of the stuff I was going through. And I know that my parents would not think I were lying now, mainly because I gre out of it.

I have actually spoken to this member through PM before about this...I probably know more about the situation than you do.

And therefore, I'm inclined to believe her. Not because I want to, because to believe it would be fucking disgusting. But she's never appeared to be someone who has wanted pity or attention, but has used an internet forum to get off her chest she cannot irl.

And yeah, I don't know her in real life to know what she's saying is absolutely fact. But you've jumped leaps and bounds yourself, into conclusions that have no real basis.

So no, I think you're wrong.


-- Posted by Lulamae at 2:51 am on Oct. 26, 2008

Quote: from BlueAutomatic at 10:34 am on Oct. 25, 2008


Quote: from Duke at 11:31 pm on Oct. 24, 2008

Quote: from BlueAutomatic at 3:08 pm on Oct. 24, 2008

She lied as a child, big deal. However, she did get raped, and she's not lying or joking about. Why would she?
 

 How do you know that she got raped? How do you know she's not lying or joking? Her own father thinks she is a liar, I would think he's in a better position than you to know whether she only lied about small things as a child, as opposed to major things now. You're one of those types of people I referred to earlier, who ask the silly question, why would she lie? Well, people lie for any number of reasons. Why would this girl lie about a black man robbing and beating her and carving letters on her face because she is a McCain supporter?

 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27350530/

 I don't know anything about the OP, other than what she has posted here, and neither do you. I take a neutral position on whether she lied or whether her father is over-reacting. What I do know is that she admits she has lied, has a reputation in her family for lying and has some major emotional/psychological issues. Maybe you should also reserve judgment, instead of bulling ahead oblivious to everything just because you want to believe.


1) Link is irrelevant.

2) She has admitted she lied as a child, you blind idiot. Children lie. I lied, about some weird shit, because of the stuff I was going through. And I know that my parents would not think I were lying now, mainly because I gre out of it.

I have actually spoken to this member through PM before about this...I probably know more about the situation than you do.

And therefore, I'm inclined to believe her. Not because I want to, because to believe it would be fucking disgusting. But she's never appeared to be someone who has wanted pity or attention, but has used an Internet forum to get off her chest she cannot irl.

And yeah, I don't know her in real life to know what she's saying is absolutely fact. But you've jumped leaps and bounds yourself, into conclusions that have no real basis.

So no, I think you're wrong.


Thank you for defending me, but it's fine.

It's the Internet, he doesn't have to believe me, though it is a bit sad that a person feels the need to think that someone is lying right away. How does the saying go? Trustworthy until proven otherwise? Oh well...I have nothing to prove. I don't care about him, he doesn't care about me.

I have no reason to lie.

Thank you for believing me.


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