Pages: 1 2  Next -- Posted by Forgot My Name at 4:43 pm on Oct. 27, 2008 I am so fucking tired of White Guilt. White people can't be proud of anything. But if you are Brown, Red Blue, or Green, you can be proud of all your heritage. -- Posted by im not ready at 4:44 pm on Oct. 27, 2008 lol sucks for yeew -- Posted by bosss at 4:44 pm on Oct. 27, 2008 i'm proud to be white -- Posted by MushroomSatsujin at 4:44 pm on Oct. 27, 2008 White Power! -- Posted by kidd rune at 5:38 pm on Oct. 27, 2008 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 7:44 pm on Oct. 27, 2008 White Power! KIGY -- Posted by Bud2400 at 6:45 pm on Oct. 27, 2008 Quote: from Forgot my name at 4:43 pm on Oct. 27, 2008 I am so fucking tired of White Guilt. White people can't be proud of anything. But if you are Brown, Red Blue, or Green, you can be proud of all your heritage. Eh?  I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, but judging from this alone, you do not seem to understand the meaning of "white guilt." White guilt is as fallacious as having pride in one's race, but in a negative way.  I, as a white person, am supposed to have some kind of guilt for actions which are not my own, but by a group of individuals in the past who belonged to the same racial group as I am a part of today? The idea is that by being white, one benefits from the actions of these peoples in the past, thus there should be some collective guilt as they reap the rewards.  Combine this with the idea of white privilege, and you start seeing it being made to be more relevant in today's context and directly to the individual. Despite whether it may be true or not, there is no reason to feel guilty for something one cannot control.  One cannot control their color of skin, one cannot control the position they were born in, and white privilege selectively ignores quite a few things, thus I'd say feeling guilty because you're white is as idiotic as feeling proud of being white, or any other race for that matter. -- Posted by IllyrianKing at 6:59 pm on Oct. 27, 2008 Quote: from Forgot my name at 4:43 pm on Oct. 27, 2008 I am so fucking tired of White Guilt. White people can't be proud of anything. But if you are Brown, Red Blue, or Green, you can be proud of all your heritage. yes, the curry and potato heads give the browns lots of pride... FUCK YOURSELF! White Pride Muthafucka! We run the world. -- Posted by OnlyTooProud at 10:12 pm on Oct. 27, 2008 Pride of one's heritage and practicing Radical Nationalism is two diffrent things. I think those of a White Background should be proud of their heritage no matter how bad it is. Yes there have been bad times in the White history yet who can deny that all of our histories have seen nasty times. -- Posted by jakelong at 10:44 pm on Oct. 27, 2008 Whites can be proud of their heritage. Being proud of their race is stupid. Same with anyone else of any color. -- Posted by amanitta at 11:22 am on Oct. 28, 2008 proud of 'one's color ????'.... i though persons do no longer judge one's pride/heritage upon his color ! -- Posted by Forgot My Name at 2:06 pm on Oct. 28, 2008 Quote: from jakelong at 10:44 pm on Oct. 27, 2008 Whites can be proud of their heritage. Being proud of their race is stupid. Same with anyone else of any color. What about being proud of being European? That is the same thing as saying you are proud to be white. -- Posted by dumb whore at 2:45 pm on Oct. 28, 2008 Quote: from Forgot my name at 4:06 pm on Oct. 28, 2008 Quote: from jakelong at 10:44 pm on Oct. 27, 2008 Whites can be proud of their heritage. Being proud of their race is stupid. Same with anyone else of any color. What about being proud of being European? That is the same thing as saying you are proud to be white. be proud. no one fucking cares. -- Posted by jakelong at 7:41 pm on Oct. 30, 2008 Quote: from Forgot my name at 2:06 pm on Oct. 28, 2008 What about being proud of being European? That is the same thing as saying you are proud to be white. Nope. Proud to be European is fine. Its pretty specific about the history of europeans and their culture. Proud to be white is stupid and lame. People define "white" so many different ways its too vague and gets everyone confused. -- Posted by kidd rune at 6:28 am on Oct. 31, 2008 Quote: from jakelong at 10:41 pm on Oct. 30, 2008 Quote: from Forgot my name at 2:06 pm on Oct. 28, 2008 What about being proud of being European? That is the same thing as saying you are proud to be white. Nope.   Proud to be European is fine. Its pretty specific about the history of europeans and their culture.   Proud to be white is stupid and lame. People define "white" so many different ways its too vague and gets everyone confused. What about specific to the history of Whites and their culture? White is a grouping just as European is - the only difference is some retards don't know what "White" means. -- Posted by jakelong at 11:14 pm on Oct. 31, 2008 Since it changes with everyone who talks about it then no wonder,   The history of whites doesn't ring any bells to me. Too vague. And we saw that all whites defines white culture thier own way. -- Posted by BleedingSteelWings at 5:04 am on Nov. 1, 2008 I don't see how any of us as being part of the human race has anything to be proud of. We're all a bunch of warmongering greedy fools. Tell you the truth, I'm pissed at everyone in a way. -- Posted by kidd rune at 12:49 pm on Nov. 1, 2008 Since it changes with everyone who talks about it then no wonder People can be proud of whatever they want. If you want to be proud of being White, you can use your own definition of White - be it White skin or not. The history of whites doesn't ring any bells to me. Too vague. And European culture does? Europe has been filled with many races. White history is any history by Whites - this includes the lives and accomplishments of Socrates, Aristotle, Plato, Homer, Tacitus, Julius Ceaser, Napoleon, William the Conqueror, Marco Polo, Washington, Jefferson, Hitler, Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Magellan, Columbus, Cabot, Edison, GrahamBell, Pasteur, Leeuwenhoek, Mendel, Darwin, Newton, Galileo, Watt, Ford, Luther, Devinci, Poe, Tennyson, and thousands upon thousands of other notable achievers. And we saw that all whites defines white culture thier own way. Not my fault some people have the wrong idea. -- Posted by Radon at 12:53 pm on Nov. 1, 2008 OP, it's almost like you're asking permission to be proud. Just fucking be proud if that's what you want to be. -- Posted by jakelong at 12:56 pm on Nov. 1, 2008 Quote: from kidd rune at 12:49 pm on Nov. 1, 2008 People can be proud of whatever they want. Sure they can be proud of being stupid. And European culture does? Yes it does. Europe has been filled with many races. It does not change the fact that Eruopean culture is well known and defined and is something real. White history is any history by Whites And since ppl define "white" any way they want it can mean anything. this includes the lives and accomplishments All of those guys are from Europe. The fact they are white is irrelevant. Not my fault some people have the wrong idea. That's what YOU say. Most whites define it differently than you. Some whites say Arabs and Jews are also whites. Appraently you guys can't even agree on what is white. -- Posted by Radon at 1:08 pm on Nov. 1, 2008 Quote: from jakelong at 12:56 pm on Nov. 1, 2008 And since ppl define "white" any way they want it can mean anything. Well, to most people it's a Germanic/Anglo-Saxon thing, but I guess I understand what you're getting at. -- Posted by jakelong at 2:01 pm on Nov. 1, 2008 Italians and Spanish are white too. Just shows that everyone has  different definition.   -- Posted by Radon at 2:21 pm on Nov. 1, 2008 People also have different definitions of what a planet is, but with sufficient discussion there will be consensus. Thing is, most people prefer to dismiss the concept of race itself, because it's biologically complex, and more importantly it's political. Anyway, I sometimes say "people of mostly European descent" and that pretty much covers it. I think it's OK to refer to "whites", as long as you can specify. -- Posted by kidd rune at 2:26 pm on Nov. 1, 2008 Jakelong, I am proud to be White by my definiton of White. Billy can be proud of whatever definition he wants. Europe is MIXED. South Italy isn't really White either, and there have been nonWhite invasions on Europe. Therefore, pride in European heritage makes less sense than White heritage. -- Posted by Radon at 2:30 pm on Nov. 1, 2008 Quote: from kidd rune at 12:49 pm on Nov. 1, 2008 People can be proud of whatever they want. If you want to be proud of being White, you can use your own definition of White - be it White skin or not. Of all the things you can be proud of, being proud of a lack of melanin is probably the dumbest. -- Posted by kidd rune at 2:53 pm on Nov. 1, 2008 Of all the things you can be proud of, being proud of a lack of melanin is probably the dumbest. And? White is NOT just a lack of melanin, which is what some stupid, senseless, retarded people believe. -- Posted by jakelong at 3:17 pm on Nov. 1, 2008 Quote: from kidd rune at 2:26 pm on Nov. 1, 2008 Therefore, pride in European heritage makes less sense than White heritage. Since "white" defninition changes all the time with whoever speaks then it makes NO sense. -- Posted by jakelong at 3:21 pm on Nov. 1, 2008 Quote: from Radon at 2:21 pm on Nov. 1, 2008 Anyway, I sometimes say "people of mostly European descent" That works fo r me. and that pretty much covers it. I think it's OK to refer to "whites", as long as you can specify. Sure.  But when you are proud of something at least you have be consistent about what you mean. Proud to be European is cool. -- Posted by kidd rune at 7:06 pm on Nov. 1, 2008 Since "white" defninition changes all the time with whoever speaks then it makes NO sense. No... If you're proud of being White, you can go by ANY definition you want. Proud to be European means NOTHING. NonEuropeans have invaded Europe plenty of times throughout history - the Huns, the Turks, Arabs, various Semitic people, ect. Proud to be European means less than proud to be White, the only difference is that some people don't know what White means. That works fo r me. You can be nonWhite, or even nonCaucasoid and be 100% European with generations of your family in Europe. Sure.  But when you are proud of something at least you have be consistent about what you mean. When someone is proud to be White they don't change the meaning. Proud to be European is cool. No, it isn't. European is nothing - not a race, ethnicity, or anything. One could consider the Turks, Huns, Arabs, ect to be European - while others would say they were unwanted invaders and aren't European. Therefore, European pride, to you, makes no sense. -- Posted by jakelong at 7:14 pm on Nov. 1, 2008 Quote: from kidd rune at 7:06 pm on Nov. 1, 2008 If you're proud of being White, you can go by ANY definition you want. Yeah you can be as stupid as you want. Proud to be European means NOTHING. All the hings you mention as good were made by Europeans. NonEuropeans have invaded Europe plenty of times throughout history - the Huns, the Turks, Arabs, various Semitic people, ect. Sure. And so wat you call white culture is NOT PURE white. some people don't know what White means. It means you are obessessed with race rather than HERITAGE..   You can be nonWhite, or even nonCaucasoid and be 100% European with generations of your family in Europe. Sure. But Eruopean culture is well defined. White culture is not. When someone is proud to be White they don't change the meaning. Yeah y do. YOu change what white means all the time Sometimes you focus on skin. Sometimes on genetics, sometimes on traits.   One could consider the Turks, Huns, Arabs, ect to be European - while others would say they were unwanted invaders and aren't European. Still means more than "White" -- Posted by kidd rune at 8:38 pm on Nov. 1, 2008 Yeah you can be as stupid as you want. Jakelong - You claim being proud of Whiteness is "stupid" because some people have different meaning of "White" Many people have different meanings of "European" - how is that any better? All the hings you mention as good were made by Europeans. Well, almost all Whites are European, but there are nonWhite Europeans too. Sure. And so wat you call white culture is NOT PURE white. Well, we need to stop any more influence from tainting it again! It means you are obessessed with race rather than HERITAGE.. Heritage:something that comes or belongs to one by reason of birth So you're not born into your race? Sure. But Eruopean culture is well defined. White culture is not. Doesn't matter how it's defined - it OBVIOUSLY has ONE definition, it's just that many people disagree. Yeah y do. YOu change what white means all the time Sometimes you focus on skin. Sometimes on genetics, sometimes on traits. I NEVER use skin as race, EVER. Still means more than "White" To YOU it does. Pages: 1 2  Next