-- Posted by the real anti christ at 11:15 pm on Oct. 27, 2008 Way to go Dreamweaver, you make that statement! On that note FP oversteped his mod bounds and removed the topic THREE times because he personally disliked the member who made the topic. But yes by all mean delete my post it was of obvious detriment to livewire that you do so days after it was posted and when the topic was nearing the old topics bin. -- Posted by Killtyronedead at 11:21 pm on Oct. 27, 2008 What happened? -- Posted by the real anti christ at 11:25 pm on Oct. 27, 2008 OYARITE I posted in a topic that Bearsy Bitch made that "FP was a little bitch" Because he deleted a topic three times. This was a couple days ago and said topic is pretty close to being 'unbumpable'. So I get this message within the last couple hours that my post has been deleted. Angry that I called you on my TSL applacation Dreamweaver? -- Posted by The Professional at 11:30 pm on Oct. 27, 2008 TRAC, you have some serious time distortion issues or something.  The topic you are referring to was made on the 27th, not "a couple days ago." Not only that, but your posts were removed because they didn't contribute to the topic at hand.  We were undecided on rather or not to try and salvage the topic, so she removed the non-contributing posts.  We then decided it would be best to just trash and have her repost the topic because it was too far gone. Dot did the right thing.  At a certain point, time limits do come into play - such as like a 2 week old post or thread, or something along those lines.  But a post you made YESTERDAY is still very much a viable candidate for removal. -- Posted by the real anti christ at 11:36 pm on Oct. 27, 2008 Quote: from The Professional at 1:30 am on Oct. 28, 2008 TRAC, you have some serious time distortion issues or something.  The topic you are referring to was made on the 27th, not "a couple days ago." Not only that, but your posts were removed because they didn't contribute to the topic at hand.  We were undecided on rather or not to try and salvage the topic, so she removed the non-contributing posts.  We then decided it would be best to just trash and have her repost the topic because it was too far gone. Dot did the right thing.  At a certain point, time limits do come into play - such as like a 2 week old post or thread, or something along those lines.  But a post you made YESTERDAY is still very much a viable candidate for removal. If anything the only 'off topic' reply made was mine and it was in refferance to the topic its self. Bearsy made the topic and didn't seem to think the replies were off topic. Were we reading the same thing? -- Posted by The Professional at 11:40 pm on Oct. 27, 2008 Obviously we were reading the same thing, where else would I have gotten the dates?  Although I'm still confused about where you got "couple of days" from, and why you seem to have an issue with Dot about the removal, yet you openly admitted your post was off topic. By "salvage" the topic, I meant more of a should we do something more to try and rectify the situation for Bearsy, because it was unfairly deleted.  So, we trashed the topic and encouraged her to repost the topic so she could get actual replies rather than replies focusing on the removal of the topic. -- Posted by the real anti christ at 12:04 am on Oct. 28, 2008 Quote: from The Professional at 1:40 am on Oct. 28, 2008 Obviously we were reading the same thing, where else would I have gotten the dates?  Although I'm still confused about where you got "couple of days" from, and why you seem to have an issue with Dot about the removal, yet you openly admitted your post was off topic.   By "salvage" the topic, I meant more of a should we do something more to try and rectify the situation for Bearsy, because it was unfairly deleted.  So, we trashed the topic and encouraged her to repost the topic so she could get actual replies rather than replies focusing on the removal of the topic. Firstly its been over 24 hours. A day and a half may be fair but none the less its was already way past fresh topics and a not at the top of the forum. Regardless I remit my statement of two days. I'm so sorry for my gapping inaccuracy. On that note Bearsy does not feel the topic was derailed nor did she/he have any problem with any of the replies posted. Therefore the topic was removed to stroke mod ego. At most it should have been moved to DTRM becasue Bearsy dosen't take her/him self that seriously and wasn't offended by the replies. (INORITE a person on the intraweb who dosen't take themselves too seriously) I actually posted my reply becasue he/she sent me a message regarding the topics ridiculous number of removals. The member did not ask for, nor did they want the original topic removed. You lot were just covering up moderation error. Edit: 'O' to 'I' -- Posted by the real anti christ at 12:06 am on Oct. 28, 2008 I received this from Bearsy moments ago: yeah I mean they already deleted my topic complaining about it and now the actual topic is gone, I'd rather just have the real one back to serve justice FP has won This is my point. Mod for the benefit of livewire not your own self serving interest. -- Posted by The Professional at 12:16 am on Oct. 28, 2008 Again with the time distortion problems. You posted on 5:24 pm on Oct. 27, 2008 (my time), it is now 2 AM on the 28th (my time). Do the math there. It has not been 24 hours, let alone a day and a half. It's important because a the more days you add on to a post, the more mod action against it becomes ridiculous. You were attempting to mount a case against Dot based on time, when you take any possible argument away from that, you're left with basically nothing. That's why it was pretty essential to correct your awfully inaccurate (and still inaccurate) times. And no, the topic was not removed to stroke mod ego. What sense would that make? The moderator who trashed it for the last time was the same moderator who brought the topic up in the mod forum for discussion, in the end resulting in the RIGHT decision of returning it to be made. Not to mention, if she did it just to "stroke her ego" as you seem to think, she wouldn't have bothered to message Bearsy and apologize sincerely for the actions of the other mod, nor would she have made SURE Bearsy understood exactly why it was being trashed for the last time. We trashed it to help BEARSY, not for any "mod ego" shit. We wanted to make sure Bearsy got as much help as possible, and as a way of showing our regret for the actions of the wrongful mod, we asked her to please repost the topic to make sure she got as many replies as she wanted. We could've refreshed it, but then we would've had a lot of cleaning up to do for the topic so people who not ask why it was trashed, or what happened with the trashing, and all that shit. It was a favor to Bearsy, nothing less, nothing more. You are trying to speak on this, yet you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about - and this is not the first time I've seen you try this as far as moderator actions go. Each time the topic was wrongly removed, the post was added BACK. When she filed a MER, it was returned in HER favor when the mistake became clear. When it was brought up in the mod forum, several moderators were absolutely appalled by the mistake. There was no "cover" up here, and you try to speak of one shows just how ignorant you are about the entire situation. If there was a "cover up," her post would've remained trashed, there would have been no MER returned in her favor, and there would have been no mod topic. Stop trying to make up an entire ridiculous theory just because you don't have all of the facts surrounding the situation. Simply because you are in the dark about some things does not mean you get the fill in the gaps of information with extreme mod corruption theories. EDIT TO YOUR LAST POST:  If that's what Bearsy wants, that's what she will get to rectify the situation.  We were all in agreeance that trashing it would benefit HER.  If she disagrees, then I will return the topic and refresh it.  Either way, that doesn't take away from your ridiculous theory, if anything, it fully invalidates it. EDIT:  After confirmation from Bearsy, the topic has been restored and refreshed.  MOD COVERUP DIDN'T EXIST OMGZ -- Posted by the real anti christ at 12:27 am on Oct. 28, 2008 My time distortion aside my point remained valid. It didn't help her . I'm sure she would really appreciate you readding the original topic. I'm sure she would have told FP that too if only she haddent been blocked after her topic was removed. On that note do share the times when I have spoke out about mod action and been wrong. -- Posted by the real anti christ at 12:32 am on Oct. 28, 2008 Bearsy wanted me to add Ok say I appreciate the compliance of *some* of the mod team. I consider the score settled for today. And you can't say I'm delusional anymore when I tell you that someone is doing stuff just because they don't like me! -- Posted by The Professional at 12:38 am on Oct. 28, 2008 Quote: from the real anti christ at 2:27 am on Oct. 28, 2008 On that note do share the times when I have spoke out about mod action and been wrong. What were we arguing about when you messaged me and said I was being too serious or something?  I can't find the thread, nor am I going to look for it all night. -- Posted by the real anti christ at 12:40 am on Oct. 28, 2008 Quote: from The Professional at 2:38 am on Oct. 28, 2008 Quote: from the real anti christ at 2:27 am on Oct. 28, 2008 On that note do share the times when I have spoke out about mod action and been wrong. What were we arguing about when you messaged me and said I was being too serious or something?  I can't find the thread, nor am I going to look for it all night. Oh I don't remember that must have been a while ago... and I actually like you.. you are too serious though, I don't think I need to look far to find agreeance on that mater. -- Posted by The Professional at 12:44 am on Oct. 28, 2008 You're tolerable when you aren't speaking on things out of ignorance, such as this.  Our actions were aimed at correcting the mistake, not covering anything up. -- Posted by the real anti christ at 12:47 am on Oct. 28, 2008 Quote: from The Professional at 2:44 am on Oct. 28, 2008 You're tolerable when you aren't speaking on things out of ignorance, such as this.  Our actions were aimed at correcting the mistake, not covering anything up. I just like to point out mods rubbing their power in members faces. Don't fool yourself into thinking this was anything other then that. Not you mind you. Either way if you seriously look at that topic there were a total of two replies removed, I would hardly call that a topic ender. -- Posted by The Professional at 12:54 am on Oct. 28, 2008 What you aren't getting is that the final trashing WASN'T a show of power.  It was intended to show Bearsy we were doing everything we could to correct it, and we urged her to repost it so she could get the replies she deserved.  It was -not- to remove the mistake of the mod, or to make Bearsy feel worse. As I said, the same moderator who brought the topic to the mod forum for discussion was the same mod who trashed it that last time.  It wouldn't make sense that the same mod did it to show power, otherwise she would've left it trashed. -- Posted by Killtyronedead at 12:55 am on Oct. 28, 2008 Are you two done yet? -- Posted by The Professional at 12:56 am on Oct. 28, 2008 WE ARE JUST GETTING STARTED PAL -- Posted by Killtyronedead at 12:56 am on Oct. 28, 2008 THIS GOT BORING 7 POSTS AGO -- Posted by the real anti christ at 12:57 am on Oct. 28, 2008 Quote: from Killtyronedead at 2:55 am on Oct. 28, 2008 Are you two done yet? Maybe. I was done with your mom last night... in bed.. On that note I'm off to bed. Either way good discussion and we can back and fourth more tomorrow. -- Posted by The Professional at 1:01 am on Oct. 28, 2008 Ty is bored, therefore no, it must end nowww. -- Posted by Killtyronedead at 1:08 am on Oct. 28, 2008 I've been watching Pride fights all night, this is softcore compared to those badasses. -- Posted by the real anti christ at 10:14 am on Oct. 28, 2008 Quote: from Killtyronedead at 3:08 am on Oct. 28, 2008 I've been watching Pride fights all night, this is softcore compared to those badasses. Would yo like it better if we tore off our shirts and yelled? -- Posted by Killtyronedead at 10:43 am on Oct. 28, 2008 Start hammer fisting each other and I may be appeased. -- Posted by the real anti christ at 10:51 am on Oct. 28, 2008 Quote: from Killtyronedead at 12:43 pm on Oct. 28, 2008 Start hammer fisting each other and I may be appeased. Done. -- Posted by Killtyronedead at 12:07 pm on Oct. 28, 2008 Sweet. -- Posted by the real anti christ at 3:05 pm on Oct. 28, 2008 Speaking of I just saw the movie "The Foot Fist Way" totally hilarious.