Pages: 1 2  Next -- Posted by xXxLiberOxXx at 1:14 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 No freaking religious intollerance or ignorance. If any mods read this, I'm asking that you delete their response, please and thank you! Ok... How come people are afraid to accept the Bible as truth? People accept text books as true; they accept internet as truth; they even accept music and their lyrics as truth, so why not the Bible? If anyone every studied the Bible, you find many things out. For example: -It was written by eyewitnesses. In a courtroom, it only takes two to put someone behind bars. The Bible has way more than 2! -The Old Testament was written by over 40 kings, prophets, and other people. How did 40 people converge on 1 topic without even meeting each other? -There has been no findings that have contradicted the Bible as being historically inaccurate. -The chances of a prophecy coming true are the same as getting a blind man, filling Texas with five feet of sand dollars and then telling the blind man to find a marked one. Now multiply that times how many prophecies are made in the Bible, well over 100. So far, not a single prophecy has been wrong in it's fulfillment. -As to it being passed on from generation to generation: that was left to the scribes. LAWS OF THE SCRIBES: *Had to work alone. *Everytime they came across God's name, they had to wash their hands, get a special quill with special ink, and then continue on. *Had to use a clean animal's skin. *If they messed up more than 2 times, the document was thrown away. *The spacing between every word had to be the same distance, less than the tip of a quill. *They counted every word from the original and then the copy, and if any words were missing or added, they had to throw it away. *The copy had to take up the same amount of scroll or page as the new one. ...I could keep on going... STILL THINK THE BIBLE's FALSE OR WRONG? GIVE ME PROOF. -- Posted by MushroomSatsujin at 1:15 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 So if we disagree, its religious intolerance? -- Posted by xXxLiberOxXx at 1:16 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 1:15 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 So if we disagree, its religious intolerance? Not at all, but just saying it's wrong is definately intollerance. Show me proof, and I'm fine. -- Posted by Nightshade09 at 1:16 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 because the bible is in no way true besides the word of a scribe that wrote it 150 years after all those events happened! and as an addition theres no proof of it being true text book at least have that! -- Posted by Religious Suicide at 1:16 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 I think it is but these are my personal beliefs just as yours are that the bible is true it honesly just comes down to the person and what they think. -- Posted by OverTheAir at 1:16 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Old documents say that the world is flat..does that make it true? -- Posted by DrSuess at 1:17 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 i love my bible. whenever im sad, all i have to do is open it up and i always find a passage that relates to how i feel. i love Jesus -- Posted by MushroomSatsujin at 1:17 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Its not a matter of whether its wrong or right, its how people interpret it. The bible simply gives a message. Some people take it literally, some people read between the lines. So whos right? -- Posted by Darraaagh at 1:19 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Aw bless. Give me proof that the bible is right and I'll disprove you. -- Posted by xXxLiberOxXx at 1:19 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from Nightshade09 at 1:16 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 because the bible is in no way true besides the word of a scribe that wrote it 150 years after all those events happened! and as an addition theres no proof of it being true text book at least have that! IT WAS WRITTEN BY EYEWITNESS ACCOUNTS??? DID YOU READ THE WHAT I WROTE? -- Posted by theboxman at 1:19 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 because the bible is not true.  It is people's observations and interpretation of events.  Where textbooks can be checked the "facts" expressed in the bible are not open to being checked by an outside source in most cases. -- Posted by Darraaagh at 1:19 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from xXxLiberOxXx at 9:16 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 1:15 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 So if we disagree, its religious intolerance? Not at all, but just saying it's wrong is definately intollerance. Show me proof, and I'm fine. Saying the bible is right is being intolerant of other religions. -- Posted by MushroomSatsujin at 1:20 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from xXxLiberOxXx at 1:19 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from Nightshade09 at 1:16 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 because the bible is in no way true besides the word of a scribe that wrote it 150 years after all those events happened! and as an addition theres no proof of it being true text book at least have that! IT WAS WRITTEN BY EYEWITNESS ACCOUNTS??? DID YOU READ THE WHAT I WROTE? But are they accurate? We dont know. We cant know. -- Posted by vicky91 at 1:20 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 its hard to believe things that was written thousands of years ago. there are the new testaments and the old testament. anyone could come along and change it. im not saying i dont believe in god and jesus but at the end of the day it could have been wrote by anyone, there is no proof x -- Posted by BeautifulxLiar at 1:20 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 4:17 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Its not a matter of whether its wrong or right, its how people interpret it. The bible simply gives a message.   Some people take it literally, some people read between the lines. So whos right? that -- Posted by Darraaagh at 1:21 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from xXxLiberOxXx at 9:19 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from Nightshade09 at 1:16 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 because the bible is in no way true besides the word of a scribe that wrote it 150 years after all those events happened! and as an addition theres no proof of it being true text book at least have that! IT WAS WRITTEN BY EYEWITNESS ACCOUNTS??? DID YOU READ THE WHAT I WROTE? They must have forgotten that the internet is truth. I apologise for their intolerance. You wrote it on the internet, it must be true. -- Posted by xXxLiberOxXx at 1:21 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from vicky91 at 1:20 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 its hard to believe things that was written thousands of years ago. there are the new testaments and the old testament. anyone could come along and change it. im not saying i dont believe in god and jesus but at the end of the day it could have been wrote by anyone, there is no proof x Ever heard of the dead sea scrolls? what we have now is 99% of the same as what was written on those scrolls, only a couple hundred years after Jesus life on earth. -- Posted by MushroomSatsujin at 1:23 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 You didnt answer my question -- Posted by drifting at 1:23 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Lack of original texts, lack of proof of creation, lack of proof that a man was taken to heaven in a chariot made of fire, lack of proof that a man could turn water in to wine, lack of proof that a man walked on water, lack of proof that a man ever made someone rise from the dead, lack of proof that a man ever rose from the dead. One account doesnt make it true. Hell, multiple accounts dont make it true if they are all cited in the same source. There is absolutely no proof to prove the Bible. Those who believe it, believe it on faith alone. -- Posted by xXxLiberOxXx at 1:27 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 1:17 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Its not a matter of whether its wrong or right, its how people interpret it. The bible simply gives a message.   Some people take it literally, some people read between the lines. So whos right? It depends. The Bible is mainly split into sections. One of which being: HISTORY. One is to read that, just like they would a History Textbook. I would read everything literally, except Revelation. The book of Revelation was a dream, so it's left to interpret. As to what Jesus said, he uses common items to make a stronger point. For example, he uses a hyperbole when he says, hate your life, hate your family, hate everything you own, and follow me. He simply means to forget what lies in the past and follow him. It's not contradictory to what he says, when he says Love. Answer your question? -- Posted by OverTheAir at 1:27 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 4:23 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 You didnt answer my question Or mine -- Posted by shadowpool at 1:27 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 The bible is complete trash. It contradicts itself on every other page. It has some historical facts in it, but mostly it's trash, and quite nasty at that. It reminds me of reading youtube comments. Q: The Old Testament was written by over 40 kings, prophets, and other people. How did 40 people converge on 1 topic without even meeting each other? A:  They didn't.  They fucked the story up repeatedly. Here: http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/inconsistencies.html -- Posted by Darraaagh at 1:29 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from xXxLiberOxXx at 9:27 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 1:17 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Its not a matter of whether its wrong or right, its how people interpret it. The bible simply gives a message.    Some people take it literally, some people read between the lines. So whos right? It depends. The Bible is mainly split into sections. One of which being: HISTORY. One is to read that, just like they would a History Textbook. I would read everything literally, except Revelation. The book of Revelation was a dream, so it's left to interpret. As to what Jesus said, he uses common items to make a stronger point. For example, he uses a hyperbole when he says, hate your life, hate your family, hate everything you own, and follow me. He simply means to forget what lies in the past and follow him. It's not contradictory to what he says, when he says Love. Answer your question? Wrong. -- Posted by MushroomSatsujin at 1:29 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from xXxLiberOxXx at 1:27 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 1:17 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Its not a matter of whether its wrong or right, its how people interpret it. The bible simply gives a message.  Some people take it literally, some people read between the lines. So whos right? It depends. The Bible is mainly split into sections. One of which being: HISTORY. One is to read that, just like they would a History Textbook. I would read everything literally, except Revelation. The book of Revelation was a dream, so it's left to interpret. As to what Jesus said, he uses common items to make a stronger point. For example, he uses a hyperbole when he says, hate your life, hate your family, hate everything you own, and follow me. He simply means to forget what lies in the past and follow him. It's not contradictory to what he says, when he says Love. Answer your question? So you take everything literally. Even Adam and Eve, I take it. The pastors at my church dont take the story of Adam and Eve literally. So whos right? -- Posted by xXxLiberOxXx at 1:31 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from drifting at 1:23 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Lack of original texts, lack of proof of creation, lack of proof that a man was taken to heaven in a chariot made of fire, lack of proof that a man could turn water in to wine, lack of proof that a man walked on water, lack of proof that a man ever made someone rise from the dead, lack of proof that a man ever rose from the dead. One account doesnt make it true. Hell, multiple accounts dont make it true if they are all cited in the same source. There is absolutely no proof to prove the Bible. Those who believe it, believe it on faith alone. We actually have tons of proof for creation, for example the salt levels in the ocean. We have the dead sea scrolls, which happen to be a lot, if you're unaware. Also, someone walking on water: more than 12 eyewitness accounts. Jesus resurrection: more than 700 eyewitness accounts of him living after he was crucified. So we have wayyyy more than 1 account. Second, the Bible was written across 3 continents: Asia, Africa and Europe. Therefore, a mix of cultures, yet all agreeing on these accounts. And true, some might believe it on faith alone, as I originally did. But then I questioned myself and researched it and got tons of proof. -- Posted by xXxLiberOxXx at 1:33 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 1:29 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from xXxLiberOxXx at 1:27 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 1:17 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Its not a matter of whether its wrong or right, its how people interpret it. The bible simply gives a message.       Some people take it literally, some people read between the lines. So whos right? It depends. The Bible is mainly split into sections. One of which being: HISTORY. One is to read that, just like they would a History Textbook. I would read everything literally, except Revelation. The book of Revelation was a dream, so it's left to interpret. As to what Jesus said, he uses common items to make a stronger point. For example, he uses a hyperbole when he says, hate your life, hate your family, hate everything you own, and follow me. He simply means to forget what lies in the past and follow him. It's not contradictory to what he says, when he says Love. Answer your question? So you take everything literally. Even Adam and Eve, I take it. The pastors at my church dont take the story of Adam and Eve literally. So whos right? Tell me exactly how they don't take it literally. -- Posted by Darraaagh at 1:33 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from xXxLiberOxXx at 9:31 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from drifting at 1:23 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Lack of original texts, lack of proof of creation, lack of proof that a man was taken to heaven in a chariot made of fire, lack of proof that a man could turn water in to wine, lack of proof that a man walked on water, lack of proof that a man ever made someone rise from the dead, lack of proof that a man ever rose from the dead.    One account doesnt make it true. Hell, multiple accounts dont make it true if they are all cited in the same source. There is absolutely no proof to prove the Bible. Those who believe it, believe it on faith alone. We actually have tons of proof for creation, for example the salt levels in the ocean. We have the dead sea scrolls, which happen to be a lot, if you're unaware. Also, someone walking on water: more than 12 eyewitness accounts. Jesus resurrection: more than 700 eyewitness accounts of him living after he was crucified. So we have wayyyy more than 1 account. Second, the Bible was written across 3 continents: Asia, Africa and Europe. Therefore, a mix of cultures, yet all agreeing on these accounts. And true, some might believe it on faith alone, as I originally did. But then I questioned myself and researched it and got tons of proof. You obviously researched it wrong. 2000-year-old witnesses don't account for shit, no matter how numerous they were! -- Posted by Darraaagh at 1:34 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from xXxLiberOxXx at 9:33 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 1:29 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from xXxLiberOxXx at 1:27 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 1:17 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Its not a matter of whether its wrong or right, its how people interpret it. The bible simply gives a message.        Some people take it literally, some people read between the lines. So whos right? It depends. The Bible is mainly split into sections. One of which being: HISTORY. One is to read that, just like they would a History Textbook. I would read everything literally, except Revelation. The book of Revelation was a dream, so it's left to interpret. As to what Jesus said, he uses common items to make a stronger point. For example, he uses a hyperbole when he says, hate your life, hate your family, hate everything you own, and follow me. He simply means to forget what lies in the past and follow him. It's not contradictory to what he says, when he says Love. Answer your question? So you take everything literally. Even Adam and Eve, I take it. The pastors at my church dont take the story of Adam and Eve literally. So whos right? Tell me exactly how they don't take it literally. You'd swear you had never heard of someone not believing in the Adam and Eve story before. It's rare that someone actually takes the literally. Evolution ftw and such. -- Posted by Dexter Ward at 1:36 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 The only problem with your theory is that the common Christian bible isn't the text which you describe.  If it was it would be in its original unchanged form much like the Jewish Torah.  The bible has various translations just with English alone, the king James, amplified, Lutheran ect.  Now that's not to say that the real bible is wrong, just that its not in its original form. -- Posted by MushroomSatsujin at 1:36 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from xXxLiberOxXx at 1:33 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 1:29 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from xXxLiberOxXx at 1:27 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 1:17 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Its not a matter of whether its wrong or right, its how people interpret it. The bible simply gives a message.   Some people take it literally, some people read between the lines. So whos right? It depends. The Bible is mainly split into sections. One of which being: HISTORY. One is to read that, just like they would a History Textbook. I would read everything literally, except Revelation. The book of Revelation was a dream, so it's left to interpret. As to what Jesus said, he uses common items to make a stronger point. For example, he uses a hyperbole when he says, hate your life, hate your family, hate everything you own, and follow me. He simply means to forget what lies in the past and follow him. It's not contradictory to what he says, when he says Love. Answer your question? So you take everything literally. Even Adam and Eve, I take it. The pastors at my church dont take the story of Adam and Eve literally. So whos right? Tell me exactly how they don't take it literally. They dont believe people were literally created from dirt. They believe in evolution Pages: 1 2  Next