-- Posted by Eclipse2005 at 10:17 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 ...I used to be pro-choice...until I just watched this. -- Posted by Quantumleaper at 10:19 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 thats hot -- Posted by Aqueous at 10:19 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 I couldn't watch anymore after he said "the head is crushed". That's just horrible. -- Posted by Eclipse2005 at 10:20 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from Quantumleaper at 1:19 am on Nov. 6, 2008 thats hot It's fucking pathetic...You obviously didn't watch the whole thing -- Posted by SmartWater at 10:20 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 wtf? -- Posted by shadowpool at 10:22 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Yes, it's killing babies.  Sometimes babies need to be killed. -- Posted by iconoclast at 10:24 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 the fact that emotional appeals are swaying your opinion on someones personal choice is pathetic -- Posted by spartan09 at 10:24 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Wow. Yeah,that's pretty gruesome. It's so sad. -- Posted by spartan09 at 10:25 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from prisoner of hss at 12:24 am on Nov. 6, 2008 the fact that emotional appeals are swaying your opinion on someones personal choice is pathetic The fact that your emtions aren't swaying your opinions on someone's personal choice is pathetic. -- Posted by katrinadoodle at 10:26 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from spartan09 at 10:25 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from prisoner of hss at 12:24 am on Nov. 6, 2008 the fact that emotional appeals are swaying your opinion on someones personal choice is pathetic The fact that your emtions aren't swaying your opinions on someone's personal choice is pathetic. ...Fail. -- Posted by iconoclast at 10:27 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from spartan09 at 1:25 am on Nov. 6, 2008 Quote: from prisoner of hss at 12:24 am on Nov. 6, 2008 the fact that emotional appeals are swaying your opinion on someones personal choice is pathetic   The fact that your emtions aren't swaying your opinions on someone's personal choice is pathetic. what? this is simply an issue of basic ethics and consciousness. fetuses cant be reasonably presumed to have any type of consciousness and are really no more 'developed' as creatures than a guinea pig or something -- Posted by greatescape at 10:27 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 ETHOS ETHOS ETHOS LETS STAND ON ONE LEG WHILE WE STILLLLLL CANNNNNNNNNNN -- Posted by medjai at 10:30 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 What's pathetic is that you are so simple minded as to fail to realize that you can be against any singular method of abortion and still support a woman's right to choose at the same time. That is to say, you can fight to OUTLAW this FORM of abortion, if it specifically is what is altering your opinion. The fact that you are too retarded to see this is bothersome. Then again, I assume you've been against abortion this entire time and are in fact now just making this claim to try to convert people. Good show. -- Posted by Eclipse2005 at 10:33 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 edited by medjai Hey I had to remove this I apologize, I didn't remove your post so you won't lose the point but this is unfortunately too graphic for the audience here. -- Posted by medjai at 10:34 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 I'm not clicking that without knowing what it is man. -- Posted by Eclipse2005 at 10:35 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 It's over 100 characters long. A live video of an abortion. Very graphic I must warn :( -- Posted by medjai at 10:36 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Dude showing me a video of the same form of abortion doesn't change what I just said to you. You can oppose this form of abortion and still support a woman's right to choose in general, this is just one form of abortion. -- Posted by medjai at 10:36 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 By the way I don't want to censor you but I'm pretty sure I have to on the second one because it violates too many guidelines. -- Posted by blufindr at 10:39 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Dude, if this one thing will turn you off abortion, then just argue against this particular type of abortion. There are other methods of abortion that aren't as... gruesome. Not to mention that sometimes these things are necessary. -- Posted by JennyColada at 10:41 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 If you are going to be swayed to a different opinon by a couple of pictures then frankly, I don't want you on my side anyway. -- Posted by dunebug at 1:12 am on Nov. 6, 2008 Quote: from JennyColada at 10:41 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 If you are going to be swayed to a different opinon by a couple of pictures then frankly, I don't want you on my side anyway. This. You do realize that the vast majority of anti-choice videos out there are partially or completely faked or vastly mislabeled right? Because they're working completely off of emotional pleas (which proves how shitty their argument is anyway), they use lies. They'll take videos like you've posted (which I actually watched) and I can tell you that that is not a first trimester abortion. It's basic fetal development, it does not have fully formed hands, fingers or feet at 8 weeks. It only has limb buds. You want to see what an actual real 8 week abortion looks like? Not your shitty faked videos?   http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/9720/8wkabortionrk4.jpg Average Fetal Size: 8 weeks 0.63 inch0.04 ounce1.6 cm1 gram 9 weeks0.90 inch0.07 ounce2.3 cm2 grams An actual 7 week fetus: http://tinyurl.com/6ffqw5 Learn some actual shit before you start trying to talk about how horrendous something is. -- Posted by islandgirl at 1:30 am on Nov. 6, 2008 THANK you dunebug I'm so sick of scare tactics. The picture posted was of an almost 6 month fetus too. The majority of abortions are done around 2 months- see dunebug's picture. If you want to play the 'gross scare tactics' game, look up women who have died from unsafe abortions. I will not post links, because I do not believe that using graphic images is a legitimate debate point. -- Posted by Alice Faith at 8:27 am on Nov. 6, 2008 Um, okay retard. To bad that's not how its done....There is a vacuum involved and I'm not gonna f.cking teach you this sh.t. And, you are seriously going to watch a video by a CATHOLIC PRIEST who is obviously pro-life spreading his biased views? Come on! Get some common sense..