-- Posted by lostwitness at 11:00 pm on Nov. 16, 2008 KRATOM - a legal drug. Seriously... why isn't anyone talking about this? Google it for more info... http://www.erowid.org/plants/kratom/kratom.shtml Here are some experiences from Erowid: A 'Legal High' That Actually Did Something Must say that I was pleasantly surprised at the potency of this wonderful plant. I decided to order 4 grams of '10x' extract from an online shop just to see what the effects would be like. I was on an empty stomach and so decided to try it out at a low dosage of 1 gram. The packaging claimed that it would be active at 2 grams, and would yield 'strong effects' at 4g. I had heard of its bitter taste, but decided to tough it out. I simply mixed the powder with a coffee cup full of water and drank it quickly. The taste was bitter, but not unbearable. I'd suggest mixing it with any regular beverage of choice. Would probably go well with fruit juice or iced tea. After about 20 minutes of drinking the liquid, I began to feel as if I had taken an opioid-based painkiller. As time went on, the effect got more and more pleasant. There was no 'speedy' sensation at the beginning, as most users have reported, but this is only my first time with this drug. As of this writing I am still feeling a strong sedative effect, very similar to that of a heavy Vicodin dose. The only negative effect I am experiencing is itchiness. All in all, I must say that of all the legal psychoactives I have tried, this one is by far the most enjoyable, and seems to be one of the precious few that does anything at all. I highly recommend this to anyone who enjoys opium-related highs. A Warm Opiate Feeling More: http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Kratom.shtml I actually have kratom (haven't taken it yet though) if I ever need it for pain because In general I try to avoid pharmaceutical drugs. Definitely something I would suggest as an alternative to opiates. -- Posted by kill the bitch at 11:00 pm on Nov. 16, 2008 pass -- Posted by snowcone200 at 11:01 pm on Nov. 16, 2008 I tried it..but I'll pass...I can just goto the doctor and get opiates for freeeeeeeeeee -- Posted by Fortis Obscurum at 11:01 pm on Nov. 16, 2008 Why the fuck isn't weed legal? -- Posted by L I F E S so G O O D at 11:01 pm on Nov. 16, 2008 k -- Posted by a alizabeth at 11:02 pm on Nov. 16, 2008 HellaThanksMan(: -- Posted by I like tuhtles at 11:02 pm on Nov. 16, 2008 Quote: from Fortis Obscurum at 11:01 pm on Nov. 16, 2008 Why the fuck isn't weed legal? Cause you touch yourself at night. -- Posted by Fortis Obscurum at 11:03 pm on Nov. 16, 2008 Quote: from I like tuhtles at 11:02 pm on Nov. 16, 2008 Quote: from Fortis Obscurum at 11:01 pm on Nov. 16, 2008 Why the fuck isn't weed legal? Cause you touch yourself at night. I give myself high-fives. -- Posted by blufindr at 11:04 pm on Nov. 16, 2008 An legal, eh? -- Posted by nickgrand2 at 11:04 pm on Nov. 16, 2008 Maybe if you would raise your life and standards of living up you wouldn't have to get high to make to stop feeling so down. -- Posted by snowcone200 at 11:05 pm on Nov. 16, 2008 Quote: from blufindr at 11:04 pm on Nov. 16, 2008 An legal, eh? It's about maybe 3-5 dollars a 10mg hit...its reallly good opiate to but a bitch to prepare. -- Posted by The Last Magister at 11:05 pm on Nov. 16, 2008 A legal* -- Posted by blufindr at 11:05 pm on Nov. 16, 2008 Quote: from snowcone200 at 6:05 pm on Nov. 17, 2008 Quote: from blufindr at 11:04 pm on Nov. 16, 2008 An legal, eh? It's about maybe 3-5 dollars a 10mg hit...its reallly good opiate to but a bitch to prepare. Lulz, you missed my Grammar Nazi. -- Posted by Niick at 11:05 pm on Nov. 16, 2008 Quote: from Fortis Obscurum at 2:01 am on Nov. 17, 2008 Why the fuck isn't weed legal? The white man. -- Posted by lostwitness at 11:06 pm on Nov. 16, 2008 Quote: from nickgrand2 at 12:04 am on Nov. 17, 2008 Maybe if you would raise your life and standards of living up you wouldn't have to get high to make to stop feeling so down. It's a natural opioid for pain... not necessarily for getting high -- though it certainly can do that if you take enough. Many things have many uses ok. -- Posted by Ramellan at 11:07 pm on Nov. 16, 2008 i want some -- Posted by aphex twin at 11:51 pm on Nov. 16, 2008 Kratom is pretty good. The only thing I don't really like about it is that I never get the opiate nod. And it's usually really stimulating for me. Its use as an analgesic is sort of limited though, it's supposed to be only equivalent to that of codeine.   -- Posted by Xusk at 1:09 am on Nov. 17, 2008 Plenty of "legal" highs little kiddies could be abusing but someone has to THINK. -- Posted by rosebud at 1:25 am on Nov. 17, 2008 heard of it ages ago, not interested -- Posted by MushroomSatsujin at 11:18 am on Nov. 17, 2008 I tried it. Didnt do anything for me -- Posted by lostwitness at 11:43 am on Nov. 17, 2008 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 12:18 pm on Nov. 17, 2008 I tried it. Didnt do anything for me Nothing? What was the dosage? -- Posted by MushroomSatsujin at 11:44 am on Nov. 17, 2008 Quote: from lostwitness at 11:43 am on Nov. 17, 2008 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 12:18 pm on Nov. 17, 2008 I tried it. Didnt do anything for me Nothing? What was the dosage? http://www.everyonedoesit.com/online_headshop/Kratom_Powder__15x_Extract.cfm?iProductID=3490 -- Posted by lostwitness at 3:35 pm on Nov. 17, 2008 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 12:44 pm on Nov. 17, 2008 Quote: from lostwitness at 11:43 am on Nov. 17, 2008 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 12:18 pm on Nov. 17, 2008 I tried it. Didnt do anything for me Nothing? What was the dosage? http://www.everyonedoesit.com/online_headshop/Kratom_Powder__15x_Extract.cfm?iProductID=3490 2 grams is a very light dosage. You may have noticed a pleasant effect at 4-6 grams. That website is very over priced though. You can find better prices here: http://www.ethnogarden.com/cart/index.pl/catid_78/proid_168/_/_/Kratom There are some pretty potent mixes of kratom extracts there too, see: http://www.ethnogarden.com/cart/index.pl/catid_80/proid_321/_/_/KratomCombos- I personally do not use drugs for recreational purposes, but rather for brain enhancement and relief of physical symptoms. If you want recreational dosages you'll just have to take much more than is usually recommended. 2 Grams is very low though for recreational use. -- Posted by k14nk at 4:19 pm on Nov. 17, 2008 I wanna eat it.