-- Posted by Lulamae at 9:37 am on Nov. 18, 2008 I'm generally not very proud of Germany's history (huh...I wonder why), but sometimes there are times in history where you just wish you had been there to witness something truly great...for me that's November 9th, 1989...the night the Berlin Wall "fell." My grandmother was there and she was telling me about how happy the people were...and afterwards I watched some video footage of it on-line...it seriously made me cry. It's amazing, the way people just ran towards one another, everyone was clapping. Finally, a peaceful reunion. That night all of those soldiers at the wall would have had permission to shoot...and if one of them had done it...it would have been a blood bath, because everyone would have opened fire. And yet...not one of them did. Which is the reason why we got pictures like this: -- Posted by MiNNiCK at 9:38 am on Nov. 18, 2008 That would have been great to experience. -- Posted by kill the bitch at 9:38 am on Nov. 18, 2008 i wasn't born yet -- Posted by UndergroundKing at 9:40 am on Nov. 18, 2008 That truly would have been such an experience... That point when they run towards eachother... It was amazing even as a US citizen. -- Posted by The Wolfhound at 9:42 am on Nov. 18, 2008 Not too amazing lo live there right before... -- Posted by holysaiyan1 at 9:43 am on Nov. 18, 2008 Nov. 9 should be called "Freedom Day" and made a national holiday. -- Posted by Suicidebooth at 9:45 am on Nov. 18, 2008 i was 23 days old when that happened :)  my aunt has pieces of that wall -- Posted by 2kewl4u2know at 9:45 am on Nov. 18, 2008 They had a similar experience in Korea once I believe.  These types of things always make you feel all warm inside. -- Posted by Lulamae at 9:50 am on Nov. 18, 2008 Quote: from holysaiyan1 at 6:43 pm on Nov. 18, 2008 Nov. 9 should be called "Freedom Day" and made a national holiday. The 3rd of October (the day when the two "Germanies" were united is our national holiday. It has a lot to do with that. October 9th wasn't pocked, because Hitler choose that day years before to (I think it was that) open the first concentration camp. It basically had bad historical karma. -- Posted by easy at 9:55 am on Nov. 18, 2008 thank Reagan and the U.S -- Posted by Lulamae at 9:58 am on Nov. 18, 2008 Quote: from easy at 6:55 pm on Nov. 18, 2008 thank Reagan and the U.S Good thing it had nothing to do with the US. It had a lot to do with Russia. -- Posted by easy at 10:01 am on Nov. 18, 2008 Quote: from Lulamae at 9:58 am on Nov. 18, 2008 Quote: from easy at 6:55 pm on Nov. 18, 2008 thank Reagan and the U.S Good thing it had nothing to do with the US. It had a lot to do with Russia. the russians took the u.s lead, you know little -- Posted by Lulamae at 10:06 am on Nov. 18, 2008 Quote: from easy at 7:01 pm on Nov. 18, 2008 Quote: from Lulamae at 9:58 am on Nov. 18, 2008 Quote: from easy at 6:55 pm on Nov. 18, 2008 thank Reagan and the U.S    Good thing it had nothing to do with the US. It had a lot to do with Russia. the russians took the u.s lead, you know little Nope, I just know the European view. Trust me, I know the way history is taught in the US...it's basically a mass of, "We're saviors to the world." And while you did do a lot of good, you also did a lot of bullshit. -- Posted by easy at 10:10 am on Nov. 18, 2008 Quote: from Lulamae at 10:06 am on Nov. 18, 2008 Quote: from easy at 7:01 pm on Nov. 18, 2008 Quote: from Lulamae at 9:58 am on Nov. 18, 2008 Quote: from easy at 6:55 pm on Nov. 18, 2008 thank Reagan and the U.S   Good thing it had nothing to do with the US. It had a lot to do with Russia. the russians took the u.s lead, you know little Nope, I just know the European view. Trust me, I know the way history is taught in the US...it's basically a mass of, "We're saviors to the world." And while you did do a lot of good, you also did a lot of bullshit. ...communist built the wall, americans say tear down that wall, get your facts straight. -- Posted by Lulamae at 10:13 am on Nov. 18, 2008 Quote: from easy at 7:10 pm on Nov. 18, 2008  And while you did do a lot of good, you also did a lot of bullshit. ...communist built the wall, Americans say tear down that wall, get your facts straight. funny how the wall didn't truly fall on November 9th. The wall fell as a reaction to the vents on November 9th. A German politician accidentally slipped up in a speech and said that the people could immediately travel in between both sides...after that people started rushing for the wall. The Stasi didn't know what to do with so many people...so they decided to just let them pass through. And just because the Americans had the idea to tear down the wall, which was an idea playing in many people's heads (especially in west Germany), doesn't mean that it's the reason it was eventually torn. So, no, there's no reason to thank the US. -- Posted by easy at 10:15 am on Nov. 18, 2008 Quote: from Lulamae at 10:13 am on Nov. 18, 2008 Quote: from easy at 7:10 pm on Nov. 18, 2008   And while you did do a lot of good, you also did a lot of bullshit. ...communist built the wall, Americans say tear down that wall, get your facts straight. funny how the wall didn't truly fall on November 9th.   The wall fell as a reaction to the vents on November 9th. A German politician accidentally slipped up in a speech and said that the people could immediately travel in between both sides...after that people started rushing for the wall. The Stasi didn't know what to do with so many people...so they decided to just let them pass through.   And just because the Americans had the idea to tear down the wall, which was an idea playing in many people's heads (especially in west Germany), doesn't mean that it's the reason it was eventually torn. So, no, there's no reason to thank the US. they should have let it stay up. -- Posted by Lulamae at 10:21 am on Nov. 18, 2008 Quote: from easy at 7:15 pm on Nov. 18, 2008 should have let it stay up. Reasoning? -- Posted by jakelong at 12:32 am on Nov. 19, 2008 Pretty cool yeah!