-- Posted by CuteKittenofDoom at 8:25 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 Instead of the usual cutting or burning, I just get some ice and rub it against the palm of my hand until hurts a lot. and even then I keep it on there. -- Posted by sub800 at 8:26 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 WOAH. HARDCORE. -- Posted by kay dee at 8:26 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 It's technically not "self injury" because you're not making an actual injury. Once it re-heats, you're fine. You couldn't do any REAL damage, so it seems like an acceptable solution. -- Posted by minnie38 at 8:27 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 ohno -- Posted by W o n d e r l a n d at 8:27 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 Yes do this! It is a much better alternative to cutting/burning -- Posted by drifting at 8:27 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 Unless you can find a large enough chunk to give you frostbite, its not self harm. Actually, thats kinda a nice solution though. Ill remember that and recommend it next time someone wants to stop cutting. -- Posted by whoami111 at 8:27 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 Quote: from katiescarlett at 8:26 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 It's technically not "self injury" because you're not making an actual injury. Once it re-heats, you're fine. You couldn't do any REAL damage, so it seems like an acceptable solution. actually it could do some damage in the long run -- Posted by MilesSoftball at 8:28 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 If you put salt on the ice first it hurts worse... Its no fun :( -- Posted by Malachite Morning at 8:28 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 Quote: from katiescarlett at 11:26 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 It's technically not "self injury" because you're not making an actual injury. Once it re-heats, you're fine. You couldn't do any REAL damage, so it seems like an acceptable solution. Indeed, decent alternative. -- Posted by Gabriel Gray at 8:28 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 Quote: from katiescarlett at 9:26 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 It's technically not "self injury" because you're not making an actual injury. Once it re-heats, you're fine. You couldn't do any REAL damage, so it seems like an acceptable solution. It could very possibly become a real injury. Believe it or not ice can "burn" the skin. Less likely it can cause frost bite if the surrounding environment is also cold. -- Posted by kay dee at 8:29 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 Quote: from whoami111 at 8:27 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 Quote: from katiescarlett at 8:26 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 It's technically not "self injury" because you're not making an actual injury. Once it re-heats, you're fine.    You couldn't do any REAL damage, so it seems like an acceptable solution. actually it could do some damage in the long run Not if they just use ice cubes they are getting out of their freezer. They'd melt before they could cause any real bodily harm. -- Posted by blake da jew at 8:30 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 Quote: from xsolox at 8:27 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 Yes do this! It is a much better alternative to cutting/burning Much better But still not good for u But if it helps u then fine -- Posted by dreamweaver at 8:30 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 Quote: from katiescarlett at 11:26 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 It's technically not "self injury" because you're not making an actual injury. Once it re-heats, you're fine. You couldn't do any REAL damage, so it seems like an acceptable solution. It's not how you do it, it's why you do it. OP: Why do you try to punish yourself like that? Is it because it helps satisfy your mind in a sick way (to say it rather bluntly)? Is it to help relieve yourself of emotional pain? If you say yes to these... then it is indeed considered as SI. Maybe not something serious, but it could get worse. If you're looking for help, talk to someone about your feelings instead of holding them in and then releasing them like that. You need to find an alternative route for your pain, one that won't harm your body or mind. If you feel you can't do it on your own, talk to a therapist about it at least. Before you do something that could really do some harm. -- Posted by kay dee at 8:31 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 Quote: from N e o at 8:28 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 Quote: from katiescarlett at 9:26 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 It's technically not "self injury" because you're not making an actual injury. Once it re-heats, you're fine.    You couldn't do any REAL damage, so it seems like an acceptable solution. It could very possibly become a real injury. Believe it or not ice can "burn" the skin. Less likely it can cause frost bite if the surrounding environment is also cold. But, really, that's not going to happen with ice you get out of your freezer. Sure, if they sat on a fucking ICEBERG they could really hurt themselves. But holding an icecube in your hand? Not so much. -- Posted by kay dee at 8:33 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 Quote: from dreamweaver at 8:30 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 Quote: from katiescarlett at 11:26 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 It's technically not "self injury" because you're not making an actual injury. Once it re-heats, you're fine.    You couldn't do any REAL damage, so it seems like an acceptable solution. It's not how you do it, it's why you do it. Yeah, but if doing that stops someone from slicing their arms/legs all to pieces, I'm all for suggesting it. I've been through SI for years, and I've found solutions. If I could stop someone else from doing REAL damage, even if it was just to find a substitution like this, i would be more for it than saying "OH GOD, DON'T DO THAT!" because that doesn't really help at all. -- Posted by HuffleHaire at 8:43 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 Just don't start using dry ice, and sounds good. -- Posted by dreamweaver at 8:49 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 Quote: from katiescarlett at 11:33 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 Quote: from dreamweaver at 8:30 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 Quote: from katiescarlett at 11:26 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 It's technically not "self injury" because you're not making an actual injury. Once it re-heats, you're fine.   You couldn't do any REAL damage, so it seems like an acceptable solution.    It's not how you do it, it's why you do it.   Yeah, but if doing that stops someone from slicing their arms/legs all to pieces, I'm all for suggesting it. I've been through SI for years, and I've found solutions. If I could stop someone else from doing REAL damage, even if it was just to find a substitution like this, i would be more for it than saying "OH GOD, DON'T DO THAT!" because that doesn't really help at all. Then you understand they should find a better and healthier alternative. They're playing with their mind about their pain- not good to play mindtricks on yourself. Finding another alternative, one that doesn't do such things, would be a much better thing to encourage than this sort of behavior. Physically, it may sound great to do. But it still affects the brain in the same way. -- Posted by kay dee at 9:02 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 Quote: from dreamweaver at 8:49 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 Quote: from katiescarlett at 11:33 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 Quote: from dreamweaver at 8:30 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 Quote: from katiescarlett at 11:26 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 It's technically not "self injury" because you're not making an actual injury. Once it re-heats, you're fine.       You couldn't do any REAL damage, so it seems like an acceptable solution.   It's not how you do it, it's why you do it.      Yeah, but if doing that stops someone from slicing their arms/legs all to pieces, I'm all for suggesting it. I've been through SI for years, and I've found solutions. If I could stop someone else from doing REAL damage, even if it was just to find a substitution like this, i would be more for it than saying "OH GOD, DON'T DO THAT!" because that doesn't really help at all. Then you understand they should find a better and healthier alternative. They're playing with their mind about their pain- not good to play mindtricks on yourself. Finding another alternative, one that doesn't do such things, would be a much better thing to encourage than this sort of behavior.   Physically, it may sound great to do. But it still affects the brain in the same way. The depression or stress is going to anyway. We're not magic, sweetheart. -- Posted by dreamweaver at 9:12 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 It just makes it that much more difficult to get over the habit. And using ice in this matter, can hurt you in the long run. So... really, how does it help? I don't see much improvement in that at all. -- Posted by Gabriel Gray at 3:02 pm on Nov. 20, 2008 Quote: from katiescarlett at 9:31 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 Quote: from N e o at 8:28 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 Quote: from katiescarlett at 9:26 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 It's technically not "self injury" because you're not making an actual injury. Once it re-heats, you're fine.   You couldn't do any REAL damage, so it seems like an acceptable solution.    It could very possibly become a real injury. Believe it or not ice can "burn" the skin. Less likely it can cause frost bite if the surrounding environment is also cold. But, really, that's not going to happen with ice you get out of your freezer. Sure, if they sat on a fucking ICEBERG they could really hurt themselves. But holding an icecube in your hand? Not so much. I was just pointing out the fact that its not impossible to do... Even with ice from the freezer. (More likely if they have a sub-zero freezer)