-- Posted by HeavenShallBurn at 8:34 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 Alright, i've been smokein weed for awhile, and well, I cant get much more. But my one friend has some salvia in supply and I wanna try some... How much much should I try??? Should I use a bowl or a vaporizer??? And im wondering if since im a big guy, if I could handle the larger types like 15x or ones like that (im wondering if it is somewhat like achohal with the potency). But really, what should I try, im COMPLETLY new to it and im just trying to figure what I should do. Also do joint or blunts work with it??? -- Posted by utheh at 8:35 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 use a bong, bout 2 hits of the strongest you can get -- Posted by imSOFAKINGrad at 8:35 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 the shit's dumb, you get like a 5 minute high, and thats it, you can't get high off it more like bud. -- Posted by tennisplayerV2 at 8:36 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 heres good advice...don't try it at all... -- Posted by Cake and Sodomy at 8:36 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 I thought this said saliva. -- Posted by studmuffn at 8:36 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 dude... 15x wont do shit. do 40x atleast if u wanna go on a nice trip. you can't use blunts or joints, it wont work. you need a nice bowl and a torch lighter, inhale and hold it in your lungs for atleast 30 seconds. by the 3rd hit you won't know where you are if you do it properly. also salvia's kinda weird, the first time u do it ur really tolerant so it doesnt work for many people but the more u do it the easier it seems to get an effect. -- Posted by drifting at 8:36 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 Bong or other waterpipe, as many hits as you can (hold them as long as you possibly can) As strong as you possibly can buy. Make sure you have someone to sit in with you, but make sure they dont interfere or make noise or other things that could ruin it. -- Posted by HeavenShallBurn at 9:22 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 Alright, thanks alot. http://www.salviasupply.com/store/vortex.html im lookin into that... Any comments??? And what if I just used a stone pipe of a home-made vaporizer, they work, cause I have to be VERY screative with this, and I dont have a water pipe/bong. -- Posted by Wilder at 11:12 am on Nov. 20, 2008 If you smoke it properly, 10X-15X out of a bong will be a good starting dose. A real vaporizer is too intense for a beginner, a homemade vaporizer probably won't work. What did you have in mind specifically? -- Posted by HeavenShallBurn at 12:35 pm on Nov. 20, 2008 Well, if u look on Youtube for "Homemade Lightbulb vaporizer" thats one tihng I have, another is a regular stone bowl, but I also could borrow a metal one. But if that isent what u meant by "What did you have in mind specifically?" then like narrow it down to what u mean cause that is what i thinkk u mean. I just wanna get a good trip off of it, not some crazy ass trippin balls one just a lil one,. -- Posted by MushroomSatsujin at 12:55 pm on Nov. 20, 2008 First off, salvia is fucked up. Its extremely powerful. It is a MUST to have a sober sitter with you. Second, you might want to use a bong as salvia requires high temps to really work. Use a torch lighter, not a bic. Also, dont do more than you can handle. Studmuffin obviously didnt do it right if he thinks it takes 40x to get something. 15x is fine. 20x I thought I was being kidnapped by invisible elves. Its good enough. -- Posted by HeavenShallBurn at 1:24 pm on Nov. 20, 2008 If I used somewhat of like a home-made bong, like a coke bottle or someting like that, would that be o.k.??? Cause I dont have a real bong, and by torch lighter you mean the long joints??? -- Posted by sykexl at 1:56 pm on Nov. 20, 2008 How about you be smart and don't jump from weed to salvia? That's how people freak out and have bad trips. No need to jump into such a strong dissociative/hallucinogen. Take your time, experiment with other drugs and work yourself up to it. Just my two cents. -- Posted by HeavenShallBurn at 2:23 pm on Nov. 20, 2008 Well by other drugs, do u mean acid and shrooms??? Cause those 4 are the only ones I would do... -- Posted by sykexl at 2:59 pm on Nov. 20, 2008 Yes, I'd say shrooms, and to a certain extent LSD, would be a better starting point. I'd recommend DXM or even ketamine to get yourself acquainted with dissociatives if you are really interested in salvia and aren't just doing it because you are out of weed which, unfortunately, it seems you are. -- Posted by Hash Brownies at 4:39 pm on Nov. 20, 2008 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 8:55 pm on Nov. 20, 2008  I was being kidnapped by invisible elves. LMFAO!!!!! -- Posted by MushroomSatsujin at 5:15 pm on Nov. 20, 2008 Quote: from Hash Brownies at 4:39 pm on Nov. 20, 2008 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 8:55 pm on Nov. 20, 2008  I was being kidnapped by invisible elves. LMFAO!!!!! No shit man. It was crazy. A torch lighter is one that has a strong blue flame, instead of the relaxed yellow flame bics have. Also I agree with sykexl. That is a huge leap. Salvia is NOTHING like weed. -- Posted by HeavenShallBurn at 6:02 pm on Nov. 20, 2008 Alright alright, thanks people. So how much does acid and shrroms run??? Cause im broke...