Pages: 1 2  Next -- Posted by MixedDelight at 7:05 pm on Nov. 24, 2008 For Murder? Currently it's 14 in Canada. I think by the time you're 12 you're old enough to realize that pointing a gun at someones head and pulling the trigger will most likely equal death, and, this murder,is punished. -- Posted by miss understoodx3 at 7:05 pm on Nov. 24, 2008 14 -- Posted by DannyJay at 7:06 pm on Nov. 24, 2008 i say 18 -- Posted by Monroe at 7:06 pm on Nov. 24, 2008 I vote 14. -- Posted by W o n d e r l a n d at 7:06 pm on Nov. 24, 2008 If you point a gut intentionally at some one its murder no matter what age -- Posted by GoliathJustin at 7:07 pm on Nov. 24, 2008 Damn..what if......I point gun at my head and pull trigger......Is that murder? -- Posted by Aria of Silence at 7:07 pm on Nov. 24, 2008 ...I think its 18 or 16 here... -- Posted by gnomestar at 7:08 pm on Nov. 24, 2008 I think 13 is a good age -- Posted by cum funnel at 7:08 pm on Nov. 24, 2008 There is no set age in America. They have tried 8 year old for first-degree murder. And depending on the circumstances, I don't agree with having a set age. -- Posted by MixedDelight at 7:09 pm on Nov. 24, 2008 Quote: from goliathjustin at 10:07 pm on Nov. 24, 2008 Damn..what if......I point gun at my head and pull trigger......Is that murder? Yes, suicide is actually illegal. -- Posted by taraxgoesxboom at 7:10 pm on Nov. 24, 2008 Somewhere in the 10-12 range. -- Posted by xshaix at 7:10 pm on Nov. 24, 2008 18, simply because until your brain has developed properly you are influenced by stupid things like your friends and video games and wanting to be in the gang and some guy fucking your girlfriend. Teenage years are a time of trivial disagreements being blown out of proportion. They do not equal evil peoole. -- Posted by xobsessedx at 7:10 pm on Nov. 24, 2008 Quote: from Pixel Dust at 7:08 pm on Nov. 24, 2008 There is no set age in America. They have tried 8 year old for first-degree murder. And depending on the circumstances, I don't agree with having a set age.   I agree with this, however, I do think that anyone under the age of seven should not be eligible for blame in a murder case. That's my line; I don't want any kindergartners charged for murder. -- Posted by Kjanhot at 7:12 pm on Nov. 24, 2008 It doesn't take a genius to realize that a gun will lead to death. -- Posted by Savior at 7:15 pm on Nov. 24, 2008 8 -- Posted by starlightstarbright at 7:16 pm on Nov. 24, 2008 Quote: from xobsessedx at 3:10 am on Nov. 25, 2008 Quote: from Pixel Dust at 7:08 pm on Nov. 24, 2008 There is no set age in America.    They have tried 8 year old for first-degree murder.    And depending on the circumstances, I don't agree with having a set age. I agree with this, however, I do think that anyone under the age of seven should not be eligible for blame in a murder case. That's my line; I don't want any kindergartners charged for murder. I think i would agree with this but here is whta i was going to say when i was going to be the 2nd person to reply (before i lost internet): 10. Maybe 12, but i think 10. At 10 you know killing is wrong, end of. And you know what, if you have had such a screwed up life that your parents didn't teach you that then that will be your case in court and if you have enough to back it up then you shouldn't be found guilty. I don't think you should be tried as an adult and get the death penalty but you should be held accountable for your actions. In England it was 14 but it was lowered back to 10 because of the Jamie Bulger case in 1993. -- Posted by cum funnel at 7:19 pm on Nov. 24, 2008 A 6 or 7 year old is still capable of understanding that playing with guns, and shooting people, is wrong. Just because they are young doesn't mean they weren't taught that, or that they are incapable of understanding. There is a reason that people are not all tried the same way. People vary in their understanding. A 36 year old may not be held accountable for the same crime a 7 year old committed and was convicted for. -- Posted by starlightstarbright at 7:25 pm on Nov. 24, 2008 Quote: from Pixel Dust at 3:19 am on Nov. 25, 2008 A 6 or 7 year old is still capable of understanding that playing with guns, and shooting people, is wrong. Just because they are young doesn't mean they weren't taught that, or that they are incapable of understanding. There is a reason that people are not all tried the same way. People vary in their understanding. A 36 year old may not be held accountable for the same crime a 7 year old committed and was convicted for. I think they should be held accountable for murder but not for accidental deaths like while playing with guns. Because kids are stupid and they do things when they have been told not to. -- Posted by Baron Samedi at 8:11 pm on Nov. 24, 2008 77. Sounds like a good cutoff to me. -- Posted by allsmiles at 1:16 am on Nov. 25, 2008 It's ten in Britain, but tbh I'm not happy about that. Ten year olds are not who they will be in ten years time, like a twenty year old is. They're more susceptible to rehabilitation. They're more impressionable, and incarceration/the whole legal system will scare them shitless. They'll be damaged forever. 18 is a good point at which one should be tried as an adult, and go through the adult system with the adult set of crimes. -- Posted by biflexible at 1:22 am on Nov. 25, 2008 I don't think there should be a set age though there should be measures to ensure politics do not come into any decisions made. -- Posted by osmoticdespair at 5:35 am on Nov. 25, 2008 Quote: from xshaix at 3:10 am on Nov. 25, 2008 18, simply because until your brain has developed properly you are influenced by stupid things like your friends and video games and wanting to be in the gang and some guy fucking your girlfriend. Teenage years are a time of trivial disagreements being blown out of proportion. They do not equal evil peoole. Sort of this. At the same time I think they should be punished, because punishment is still a deterrent and a learning experience for young people. But they should have no permanent consequences that will ruin their chance for a normal life and when possible punishment should not involve sending them to an institution in which their peers will train them to be better criminals. -- Posted by nik12 at 6:59 am on Nov. 25, 2008 maybe 13 or 14 maybe even 6 years old -- Posted by GeneCosta at 7:01 am on Nov. 25, 2008 The very act of having capital murder minimums is stupid. Even adults can be held as irresponsible while ignorant. -- Posted by Savior at 6:05 pm on Nov. 25, 2008 Quote: from GeneCosta at 7:01 am on Nov. 25, 2008 The very act of having capital murder minimums is stupid. Even adults can be held as irresponsible while ignorant. Minimums are stupid, period. -- Posted by jakelong at 2:28 am on Nov. 26, 2008 I'd say between 14 and 16. -- Posted by Mish34 at 8:00 am on Nov. 29, 2008 Quote: from xshaix at 7:10 pm on Nov. 24, 2008 18, simply because until your brain has developed properly you are influenced by stupid things like your friends and video games and wanting to be in the gang and some guy fucking your girlfriend. Teenage years are a time of trivial disagreements being blown out of proportion. They do not equal evil peoole. I wish people would stop making excuses for teenagers. I'm a teenager, I can tell that its wrong to kill someone or beat up a passer by for no reason. The majority of British youth do not understand that and they won't unless they realise that if they break the law, they're going to Borstal. Maybe the government should stop spending their citizens' money on stopping non-violent crimes (like drug use or speeding) and actually put some effort into stopping crimes that have an actual victim (not just a very possibly potential one). -- Posted by osmoticdespair at 9:12 am on Nov. 29, 2008 Quote: from Mish34 at 4:00 pm on Nov. 29, 2008 I wish people would stop making excuses for teenagers. I'm a teenager... I am 22 and in the past 4 years I have matured and changed so much. There are things I would not have blinked at 3 years ago that now would horrify me. It's not so much should teenagers know that its wrong to murder, if they are well brought up they should, but if they don't is that because they have some kind of permanent problem that warrants them being kept out of society for a long time, or is it possible or even quite likely they will change their mind as they mature. I think the latter. Given that sticking them in jail where they will just learn to be a criminal through peer influence as well as be given huge impediments to living an "honest" life once they get out is not the solution. By all means punish them, but not the way you would punish an adult who is a lot more fixed in his personality. -- Posted by osmoticdespair at 9:15 am on Nov. 29, 2008 Quote: from Mish34 at 4:00 pm on Nov. 29, 2008 Maybe the government should stop spending their citizens' money on stopping non-violent crimes (like drug use or speeding) and actually put some effort into stopping crimes that have an actual victim (not just a very possibly potential one). Oh and another thing. It has been shown that visible minor crimes increase the likelyhood of people committing major crimes. When minor crime is cracked down on hard major crime rates drop. It's some psychology thing. I'm too lazy to look up the source but if you check out the literature on the topic for yourself I feel confident you'll find the same. -- Posted by Mish34 at 11:01 am on Nov. 29, 2008 Quote: from osmoticdespair at 9:15 am on Nov. 29, 2008 Quote: from Mish34 at 4:00 pm on Nov. 29, 2008  Maybe the government should stop spending their citizens' money on stopping non-violent crimes (like drug use or speeding) and actually put some effort into stopping crimes that have an actual victim (not just a very possibly potential one). Oh and another thing. It has been shown that visible minor crimes increase the likelyhood of people committing major crimes. When minor crime is cracked down on hard major crime rates drop. It's some psychology thing. I'm too lazy to look up the source but if you check out the literature on the topic for yourself I feel confident you'll find the same. It'd be much more efficient and effective to crack down on major crime visibly.... Pages: 1 2  Next