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-- Posted by Moonscar at 6:04 pm on Nov. 25, 2008

Ok so there are a lot of white girls that can be pretty. though I am sick and tired of everyone saying they are the prettiest. I mean on top of that they say black Women are ugly! I am sorry but I have seen a lot of African Women that can blow some white girls out of the water.......

Even fellow black men are like " Nah I want me a white woman!". I guess this is just preference but even the media and movies puts it in your head that white woman "define" beauty. On another note, the media and what you see on TV practices a lot of "Pro white things"

like in movies the Black man would most of the time always die and the way the media makes it like it's typical for black people to be doing crime. It makes black children have low self esteem because of what influences them on TV like this video shows.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybDa0gSuAcg


-- Posted by taraxgoesxboom at 6:06 pm on Nov. 25, 2008

There are pretty people from every race and there are ugly people from every race. There shouldn't be some big controversy over it.


-- Posted by MixedDelight at 6:06 pm on Nov. 25, 2008

The media controls our minds.

This is why I'm getting a job in the media


-- Posted by MystiqueBeauty16 at 6:06 pm on Nov. 25, 2008

I don't judge beauty on skin color, I judge it by how they look, how they present themselves, and their personality combined.


-- Posted by Bearsy at 6:06 pm on Nov. 25, 2008

There is no way to describe pretty people by matter of coloration/gender/features/anything, pretty people just are.


-- Posted by motherfxcker at 6:06 pm on Nov. 25, 2008

idk what you're smokin but black folks and white folks typically stick to their own race.


-- Posted by Deviant at 6:06 pm on Nov. 25, 2008

I agree with you to SOME extent. I do find that in a lot of movies, a lot of 'criminals' are black and gangster-like. It does piss me off.


-- Posted by whoisabs at 6:06 pm on Nov. 25, 2008

quit trolling because we all know there are tons of bullshit about 'black is beautiful' and other attempts to trick blacks into thinking they are someone more beautiful than anyone else


-- Posted by Lahanalove at 6:08 pm on Nov. 25, 2008

I think people need to just get over races.
If you live in America you're American.
I'm tired of everyone comparing races that they're so different.


-- Posted by Juicy Juicy Couture at 6:09 pm on Nov. 25, 2008

Quote: from taraxgoesxboom at 6:06 pm on Nov. 25, 2008


There are pretty people from every race and there are ugly people from every race. There shouldn't be some big controversy over it.

This


-- Posted by Sudo XE at 6:11 pm on Nov. 25, 2008

kinda reachin in some places, but I feel your overall point


-- Posted by Moonscar at 6:21 pm on Nov. 25, 2008

Quote: from whoisabs at 6:06 pm on Nov. 25, 2008


quit trolling because we all know there are tons of bullshit about 'black is beautiful' and other attempts to trick blacks into thinking they are someone more beautiful than anyone else

True, but the emphasis on "White beauty" is the one showed on TV. The point of this topic wasn't to say someone is beautiful based on your skin color. The point is that you don't have to be white to be beautiful. My preferences are the exotic black look but I like Caucasian beauty at times too.


-- Posted by whoisabs at 6:31 pm on Nov. 25, 2008

The majority of beauty on the television is a reflection of the population breakdown of the country, that blacks are only about 12% of the population.


-- Posted by Moonscar at 6:33 pm on Nov. 25, 2008

Quote: from whoisabs at 6:31 pm on Nov. 25, 2008


The majority of beauty on the television is a reflection of the population breakdown of the country, that blacks are only about 12% of the population.

Well it's really a messed up system to go by. It also makes minorities feel......well more of an outcast.


-- Posted by dumb whore at 6:51 pm on Nov. 25, 2008

"In California, groups of all ethnicities have vied to transform themselves into a Caucasian standard of beauty. Jewish women undergo rhinoplasty, or "nose jobs," and African Americans have undergone the same, along with lip reductions and skin lightening."

http://www.womensenews.org/article.cfm/dyn/aid/1950/context/archive


well i did a paper on asian blepharoplasty recently. that was just an interesting bit from one of my sources. are you just talking about television or the idea that white (with blonde hair/blue eyes etc.) = beautiful?


-- Posted by Moonscar at 6:53 pm on Nov. 25, 2008

Quote: from KoopaTroopa at 6:51 pm on Nov. 25, 2008


"In California, groups of all ethnicities have vied to transform themselves into a Caucasian standard of beauty. Jewish women undergo rhinoplasty, or "nose jobs," and African Americans have undergone the same, along with lip reductions and skin lightening."

http://www.womensenews.org/article.cfm/dyn/aid/1950/context/archive

 
well i did a paper on asian blepharoplasty recently. that was just an interesting bit from one of my sources. are you just talking about television or the idea that white (with blonde hair/blue eyes etc.) = beautiful?


That's a shame. I find big lips more delicious than then along with dark skin

Sorry if that sounded perverted........


-- Posted by kidd rune at 8:02 pm on Nov. 25, 2008

Stop with this bullshit!

Beauty is an OPINION.

I'm not even going to say it...


-- Posted by Moonscar at 8:48 pm on Nov. 25, 2008

Quote: from kidd rune at 8:02 pm on Nov. 25, 2008


Stop with this bullshit!

Beauty is an OPINION.

I'm not even going to say it...


Exactly so the Media and magazines needs to stop putting Caucasian beauty in peoples heads all the time.


-- Posted by kidd rune at 9:22 pm on Nov. 25, 2008


Exactly so the Media and magazines needs to stop putting Caucasian beauty in peoples heads all the time.
They don't - simply put.


It's culturally in their heads (Or they just find them more attractive).

In experiments in which Black children have been left to themselves with White and Black dolls, it has been found tha most of the them would rather play with White dolls. This is true all over the world. Even in such places as Tobago.


-- Posted by Moonscar at 9:44 pm on Nov. 25, 2008

Quote: from kidd rune at 9:22 pm on Nov. 25, 2008



Exactly so the Media and magazines needs to stop putting Caucasian beauty in peoples heads all the time.
They don't - simply put.

 
It's culturally in their heads (Or they just find them more attractive).

In experiments in which Black children have been left to themselves with White and Black dolls, it has been found tha most of the them would rather play with White dolls. This is true all over the world. Even in such places as Tobago.


Exactly, because everyone is brainwashed into thinking white is best! What we see makes us believe these things and what people put in magazines make people think white is god/goddess like.....


-- Posted by kidd rune at 10:36 pm on Nov. 25, 2008


Exactly, because everyone is brainwashed into thinking white is best! What we see makes us believe these things and what people put in magazines make people think white is god/goddess like.....
Tobago has White Supremacist magazines?

What about historically?


The January 1986 issue of the journal of Ethnic and Racial Studies, "Skin Color Preference, Sexual Dimorphism and Sexual Selection: a case of Gene-Culture Co-evolution?" by Peter Frost and Pierre Van der Herghe, stated that in any given race, the women tend to have lighter complexions than the men. Using standard ethnographic files from 51 societies on five continents which have recorded their preference for human skin color, the study found that 30 preferred lighter women and 14 preferred lighter women and lighter men. The cultures of India, China, Brazil and Bali, as well as the Arabs and Negroes regard the lightest women as the most beautiful. --perpetuating the aesthetic appeal of the ivory-skinned, rosy-cheeked, blue-eyed, blond "Nordic ideal" of feminine beauty- -even though they themselves do not possess the genetic capacity to reproduce such an organism. Over time, the study said, the upper classes of all races have become lighter-skinned than their fellow countrymen because they have repeatedly skimmed off fairer women from the lower classes.


-- Posted by Moonscar at 10:45 pm on Nov. 25, 2008

Quote: from kidd rune at 10:36 pm on Nov. 25, 2008



Exactly, because everyone is brainwashed into thinking white is best! What we see makes us believe these things and what people put in magazines make people think white is god/goddess like.....
Tobago has White Supremacist magazines?

What about historically?


The January 1986 issue of the journal of Ethnic and Racial Studies, "Skin Color Preference, Sexual Dimorphism and Sexual Selection: a case of Gene-Culture Co-evolution?" by Peter Frost and Pierre Van der Herghe, stated that in any given race, the women tend to have lighter complexions than the men. Using standard ethnographic files from 51 societies on five continents which have recorded their preference for human skin color, the study found that 30 preferred lighter women and 14 preferred lighter women and lighter men. The cultures of India, China, Brazil and Bali, as well as the Arabs and Negroes regard the lightest women as the most beautiful. --perpetuating the aesthetic appeal of the ivory-skinned, rosy-cheeked, blue-eyed, blond "Nordic ideal" of feminine beauty- -even though they themselves do not possess the genetic capacity to reproduce such an organism. Over time, the study said, the upper classes of all races have become lighter-skinned than their fellow countrymen because they have repeatedly skimmed off fairer women from the lower classes.

Wow, well that's not how it is unfortunately. There are a lo of people who wouldn't dare have those features because they are happy with their own. Though the movies still feed us with that look and it's annoying.


-- Posted by kidd rune at 10:51 pm on Nov. 25, 2008


Wow, well that's not how it is unfortunately. There are a lo of people who wouldn't dare have those features because they are happy with their own. Though the movies still feed us with that look and it's annoying.
I'm not saying all is like that - but give credit where it's due.

Historically - before the media - this held true,


-- Posted by Moonscar at 10:53 pm on Nov. 25, 2008

Quote: from kidd rune at 10:51 pm on Nov. 25, 2008



Wow, well that's not how it is unfortunately. There are a lo of people who wouldn't dare have those features because they are happy with their own. Though the movies still feed us with that look and it's annoying.
I'm not saying all is like that - but give credit where it's due.

Historically - before the media - this held true,


Give credit to what exactly?


-- Posted by kidd rune at 10:46 am on Nov. 26, 2008


Give credit to what exactly?
Credit to Whites for tending to be found more attractive.
I'm not saying they are (Though I can say I find Whites more attractive) but it's not JUST from the media.


-- Posted by Moonscar at 2:34 pm on Nov. 26, 2008

Quote: from kidd rune at 10:46 am on Nov. 26, 2008



Give credit to what exactly?
Credit to Whites for tending to be found more attractive.
I'm not saying they are (Though I can say I find Whites more attractive) but it's not JUST from the media.

I'm not gonna give credit to something that I find too common. though your little story is interesting. Where's your proof?


-- Posted by kidd rune at 2:56 pm on Nov. 26, 2008


I'm not gonna give credit to something that I find too common. though your little story is interesting. Where's your proof?
What little story?

You said that they are found more attractive yourself.

Our reasons may differ but the fact remains.


-- Posted by Moonscar at 2:58 pm on Nov. 26, 2008

Quote: from kidd rune at 2:56 pm on Nov. 26, 2008



I'm not gonna give credit to something that I find too common. though your little story is interesting. Where's your proof?
What little story?

You said that they are found more attractive yourself.

Our reasons may differ but the fact remains.


The little story that races view it as the most beautiful without the media's help =/

I would like some proof.........


-- Posted by kidd rune at 3:05 pm on Nov. 26, 2008


The little story that races view it as the most beautiful without the media's help =/
Remember I put:

The January 1986 issue of the journal of Ethnic and Racial Studies, "Skin Color Preference, Sexual Dimorphism and Sexual Selection: a case of Gene-Culture Co-evolution?" by Peter Frost and Pierre Van der Herghe

That's the media or what?

Here's another source:

Scientific research on what constitutes human beauty, in which 300 judges of various backgrounds were shown portrait photographs and asked to rate the beauty of the individual's face, has revealed that nordic Whites are universally recognized as the most attractive humans, even by Blacks. The judges were instructed to evaluate the faces solely on his or her "personal standards of beauty and not to consider popular norms." The results of the study "Age, Sex, Race, and the Perception of Facial Beauty." Developmental Psychology, 5, Nov., 1971, pp 433-439, are reprinted below.
Code:
JUDGES'                   GROUP GIVEN
CHARACTERISTICS          HIGHEST RATING
---------------          --------------
Age 7 white males         white adolescent males
Age 7 black males         white adolescent males
Age 7 white females       white adolescent females
Age 12 white males        white adolescent females
Age 12 black males        white adolescent females
Age 12 white females      white adolescent females
Age 12 black females      white adolescent females
Age 17 white males        white adolescent females
Age 17 black males        white adolescent females
Age 17 white females      white adolescent females
Age 17 black females      white adolescent females
Adult white males         white adolescent females
Adult black males         white adolescent females
Adult white females       white adolescent males
Adult black females       white adolescent females


Surely this is a pointless debate though - opinion vs opinion.


-- Posted by Moonscar at 3:12 pm on Nov. 26, 2008

Quote: from kidd rune at 3:05 pm on Nov. 26, 2008



The little story that races view it as the most beautiful without the media's help =/
Remember I put:

The January 1986 issue of the journal of Ethnic and Racial Studies, "Skin Color Preference, Sexual Dimorphism and Sexual Selection: a case of Gene-Culture Co-evolution?" by Peter Frost and Pierre Van der Herghe

That's the media or what?

Here's another source:

Scientific research on what constitutes human beauty, in which 300 judges of various backgrounds were shown portrait photographs and asked to rate the beauty of the individual's face, has revealed that nordic Whites are universally recognized as the most attractive humans, even by Blacks. The judges were instructed to evaluate the faces solely on his or her "personal standards of beauty and not to consider popular norms." The results of the study "Age, Sex, Race, and the Perception of Facial Beauty." Developmental Psychology, 5, Nov., 1971, pp 433-439, are reprinted below.
Code:
JUDGES' GROUP GIVEN
CHARACTERISTICS HIGHEST RATING
--------------- --------------
Age 7 white males white adolescent males  
Age 7 black males white adolescent males  
Age 7 white females white adolescent females  
Age 12 white males white adolescent females
Age 12 black males white adolescent females  
Age 12 white females white adolescent females  
Age 12 black females white adolescent females  
Age 17 white males white adolescent females  
Age 17 black males white adolescent females  
Age 17 white females white adolescent females  
Age 17 black females white adolescent females  
Adult white males white adolescent females  
Adult black males white adolescent females  
Adult white females white adolescent males  
Adult black females white adolescent females

 
Surely this is a pointless debate though - opinion vs opinion.


Exactly. What good is arguing with people who have always though superior?

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