Pages: 1 2  Next -- Posted by sadnessness at 3:38 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 So i've been messaging someone who has been telling me that my social anxiety disorder and depression-turned-bipolar are completely in my head and i only have them because i believe in mental illness. I find that insulting, since professional psychiatrists are actually trying to help me through it and some kid is telling me basically to get over it. Thoughts? I'm particularly interested in those of you who are currently dealing with or have dealt with mental illness -- Posted by sosupkthnx at 3:38 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 It is real... -- Posted by matto at 3:38 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 Other. It is a real disease in the head of the person. -- Posted by iconoclast at 3:40 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 its not a real "disease" but people like to say that because nobody will take them seriously otherwise -- Posted by KendallMoc at 3:40 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 It's definitely a real disease. But I believe that the person who has it could make it worse by themselves.  Well, actually I don't really know how to say what I'm trying to say. -- Posted by Skip at 3:40 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 it is a real disease an imbalance in brain chemicals often times -- Posted by Baron Samedi at 3:40 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 It's caused by alien spirits living in your mind or some shit. -- Posted by iconoclast at 3:41 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 "it is a disease because its really bad" -- Posted by Psycloner at 3:42 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 Wouldn't think it'd be a disease but it's a real emotion inside the head of a person. -- Posted by sadnessness at 3:43 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 Quote: from prisoner of hss at 11:41 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 "it is a disease because its really bad" No, it's a disease because it affects so many people and ruins lives. -- Posted by Malachite Morning at 3:43 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 It's a real disease. An imbalance of chemicals in the head, often serotonin. -- Posted by comatosesmiles at 3:43 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 its not a disease its a state of mind that sometimes can get so severe that even if u try to change and pretend like u dont have it, it will eventually come bak mybe even worse than it began -- Posted by iconoclast at 3:44 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 Quote: from sadnessness at 6:43 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 Quote: from prisoner of hss at 11:41 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 "it is a disease because its really bad" No, it's a disease because it affects so many people and ruins lives. you said the exact same thing i did -- Posted by Teenie1 at 3:44 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 Meh, I had medication. -- Posted by meow666 at 3:44 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 emotional depression is the crappy emo version of depression, that everyone immediately thinks you mean when you mention depression, though real depression is loads different... i'm personally in the process of consulting doctors over what i believe to be a form of depression, as i sleep for easily 12+ hours a day, constantly lose weight, have huge trouble concentrating, constantly feel lethargic and crappy, and other stuff...though to talk to me, people comment on me being one of the cheeriest and smiley people they know... -- Posted by sadnessness at 3:45 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 Quote: from prisoner of hss at 11:44 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 Quote: from sadnessness at 6:43 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 Quote: from prisoner of hss at 11:41 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 "it is a disease because its really bad"    No, it's a disease because it affects so many people and ruins lives. you said the exact same thing i did except you think its all in peoples heads. I disagree, because i actually have depression. -- Posted by Aliboo at 3:46 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 Its a lot of things. it effects people differently -- Posted by greatescape at 3:46 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 Quote: from prisoner of hss at 5:40 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 its not a real "disease" but people like to say that because nobody will take them seriously otherwise Disease: a condition of the living animal or plant body or of one of its parts that impairs normal functioning and is typically manifested by distinguishing signs and symptoms : sickness , malady 3: a harmful development (as in a social institution) What about depression or bipolar disorder does that not match? -- Posted by sadnessness at 3:46 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 Quote: from meow666 at 11:44 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 emotional depression is the crappy emo version of depression, that everyone immediately thinks you mean when you mention depression, though real depression is loads different... i'm personally in the process of consulting doctors over what i believe to be a form of depression, as i sleep for easily 12+ hours a day, constantly lose weight, have huge trouble concentrating, constantly feel lethargic and crappy, and other stuff...though to talk to me, people comment on me being one of the cheeriest and smiley people they know... I'm not talking about emotional depression, i'm talking about 4 hours sleep a night, lack of appetite, unexplained low moods, no motivation, extremely bad concentration, irritability etc. -- Posted by FallingAwayFromMe at 3:47 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 My ex tried to tell me I only felt this way because I wanted to.. and I was like "what the fuck? Do people starve themselves to skin and bone because they feel like it? Are they of sound mind? Is it normal to have such severely low opinion of yourself? No. Conclusion: you are an idiot" -- Posted by Skip at 3:47 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 Quote: from greatescape11 at 6:46 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 Quote: from prisoner of hss at 5:40 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 its not a real "disease" but people like to say that because nobody will take them seriously otherwise Disease: a condition of the living animal or plant body or of one of its parts that impairs normal functioning and is typically manifested by distinguishing signs and symptoms : sickness , malady 3: a harmful development (as in a social institution) What about depression or bipolar disorder does that not match? this guy is just such an idiot it cracks me up -- Posted by iconoclast at 3:48 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 Quote: from sadnessness at 6:45 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 Quote: from prisoner of hss at 11:44 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 Quote: from sadnessness at 6:43 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 Quote: from prisoner of hss at 11:41 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 "it is a disease because its really bad"   No, it's a disease because it affects so many people and ruins lives. you said the exact same thing i did except you think its all in peoples heads. I disagree, because i actually have depression. its in peoples heads and its in their environment -- Posted by iconoclast at 3:48 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 Quote: from greatescape11 at 6:46 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 Quote: from prisoner of hss at 5:40 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 its not a real "disease" but people like to say that because nobody will take them seriously otherwise   Disease: a condition of the living animal or plant body or of one of its parts that impairs normal functioning and is typically manifested by distinguishing signs and symptoms : sickness , malady   3: a harmful development (as in a social institution)   What about depression or bipolar disorder does that not match?   generally its considered a physically caused pathological flaw in the body, not referred to in a broad sense plus "normal" functioning implies that there's some kind of objective norm that encompasses all situations and can be judged and measured, plus 'signs and symptoms' typically relate to a hard physical cause -- Posted by greatescape at 3:49 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 Quote: from Skip at 5:47 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 this guy is just such an idiot it cracks me up He's not an idiot at all.  Just excessively pessimistic about mental health care and the whole field of psychology in general. -- Posted by greatescape at 3:50 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 Quote: from prisoner of hss at 5:48 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 generally its considered a physically caused pathological flaw in the body, not referred to in a broad sense Generally considered by who? -- Posted by Skip at 3:50 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 what the hell ever -- Posted by WindChill at 3:50 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 It's definitely a disease that needs to be taken more seriously. Nobody can understand the devastation unless they've been thru it themselves. -- Posted by anc8469 at 3:53 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 Untreated depression can lead to suicide in some cases. -- Posted by Fancy Fantasia at 3:55 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 Quote: from sadnessness at 3:38 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 So i've been messaging someone who has been telling me that my social anxiety disorder and depression-turned-bipolar are completely in my head and i only have them because i believe in mental illness. I find that insulting, since professional psychiatrists are actually trying to help me through it and some kid is telling me basically to get over it.   Thoughts? I'm particularly interested in those of you who are currently dealing with or have dealt with mental illness It is most certainly not just in your head. It is a real and potentially devastating illness that must be treated properly and cared for. Don't listen to some uneducated imbecile who thinks the world revolves around their pigheaded fool self. -pats you on the back- People can suck. -- Posted by iconoclast at 3:55 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 Quote: from greatescape11 at 6:50 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 Quote: from prisoner of hss at 5:48 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 generally its considered a physically caused pathological flaw in the body, not referred to in a broad sense Generally considered by who? generally considered by pretty much everyone and most of the legitimate medical field. disease has historically applied to physical problems, not emotional problems, but has been twisted into modern 'mental health' here are some more definitions: an unhealthy condition in a person, animal, or plant which is caused by bacteria or infection impairment of normal physiological function affecting part or all of an organism overall, 'disease' refers to a malfunctioning physical part as the cause of the problem, not simply an effect of an emotional change, in which case a changed 'brain' is normal and reflects the person's psychological environment accurately im not referring to the colloquial definition, im referring to the scientific definition, in the colloquial definition, disease is simply something really bad, like a "disease of society" Pages: 1 2  Next