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-- Posted by Heridatary at 12:18 pm on Nov. 29, 2008

How can you deny the Holocaust when the events that led to it were obvious?

I have heard deniers say there was no proof.

All I can say is are you kidding me?

Hitler did not Like the Jewish, he turned Germany vastly Anti Semitical, what does an Anti Semitical state do?

You know possibly like, Exterminate the Jews?


-- Posted by beautifulgirl at 12:19 pm on Nov. 29, 2008

you can't


-- Posted by the seer at 12:19 pm on Nov. 29, 2008

i think its funny that people say there is no proof. even though there were witnesses who survived.


-- Posted by Heridatary at 12:19 pm on Nov. 29, 2008

Quote: from beautifulgirl at 12:19 pm on Nov. 29, 2008


you can't

What can't I do.


-- Posted by Malachite Morning at 12:20 pm on Nov. 29, 2008

No proof? Some of the best, most detailed historical records we have are from The Holocaust.


-- Posted by californication at 12:20 pm on Nov. 29, 2008

IT NEVER HAPPENED


-- Posted by Heridatary at 12:20 pm on Nov. 29, 2008


Quote: from the seer at 12:19 pm on Nov. 29, 2008


i think its funny that people say there is no proof. even though there were witnesses who survived.

I know.

But I think it is more effective to show Policies and Political Situations.

Just like my thread about Kim Jong Il.


-- Posted by Vintorez at 12:22 pm on Nov. 29, 2008

kidd rune firmly believes the holocaust never happened. he clings to evidence that's been disproven hundreds of times


-- Posted by Heridatary at 12:24 pm on Nov. 29, 2008

Quote: from Vintorez at 12:22 pm on Nov. 29, 2008


kidd rune firmly believes the holocaust never happened. he clings to evidence that's been disproven hundreds of times

One word.

Eugenics.


-- Posted by kidd rune at 3:25 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

Quote: from Vintorez at 3:22 pm on Nov. 29, 2008


kidd rune firmly believes the holocaust never happened. he clings to evidence that's been disproven hundreds of times

No - I just think it's exaggerated.

Also - much of it HAS NOT been disproven - and much of the Holocaust claims HAVE BEEN disproven.

EDIT:


even though there were witnesses who survived.
There were people that were there and said it DID NOT HAPPEN.

Why not believe them?

Why believe a witness when you can't tell if they're lying?


-- Posted by Dexter Ward at 5:49 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

Quote: from kidd rune at 6:25 pm on Nov. 30, 2008


Quote: from Vintorez at 3:22 pm on Nov. 29, 2008

kidd rune firmly believes the holocaust never happened. he clings to evidence that's been disproven hundreds of times

No - I just think it's exaggerated.

Also - much of it HAS NOT been disproven - and much of the Holocaust claims HAVE BEEN disproven.

EDIT:


even though there were witnesses who survived.
There were people that were there and said it DID NOT HAPPEN.

Why not believe them?

Why believe a witness when you can't tell if they're lying?


So all the pictures taken at the time were lies, and all the GIs who reported what they saw when they liberated the camps were lying.  I'll believe my granddad's words over some punk online.


-- Posted by kidd rune at 6:02 pm on Nov. 30, 2008


So all the pictures taken at the time were lies, and all the GIs who reported what they saw when they liberated the camps were lying.  I'll believe my granddad's words over some punk online.
Find me a picture of someone being gassed.


And WHAT do you not get about "I just think it's exaggerated"??

People died in labor camps under the 3rd Reich - no shit.
Piles of dead Jews prove thousands died - I'm NOT denying this.


-- Posted by draakprinses at 6:36 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

After meeting and speaking personally with Eva Kor, there isn't a single shred of doubt in my soul of the terror that Jews were put through.


-- Posted by Bud2400 at 7:15 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

Quote: from Heridatary at 12:18 pm on Nov. 29, 2008


How can you deny the Holocaust when the events that led to it were obvious?


http://www.golivewire.com/forums/peer-yypiyst-support-a.html#9

I suggest you read up and actually consider the points holocaust deniers make before going "oh but it happened, so lol at you Jew haters!!!", and if you feel compelled, refute those points.


-- Posted by jakelong at 7:20 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

It's funny how a lot of Holocaust deniers are often the same ppl who also pull out BS about the Jewish media and how jews got what they desreve and are the source of all evil on earth.

They also often the same people who reveal later they are WN or National Socialist and go on about how Hitler is a great guy.  

I never really figured out why.


-- Posted by Aristocrat at 8:48 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

Quote: from Bud2400 at 7:15 pm on Nov. 30, 2008


 
http://www.golivewire.com/forums/peer-yypiyst-support-a.html#9

I suggest you read up and actually consider the points holocaust deniers make before going "oh but it happened, so lol at you Jew haters!!!", and if you feel compelled, refute those points.



Thanks for sharing.


-- Posted by Vintorez at 9:31 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

Quote: from kidd rune at 9:02 pm on Nov. 30, 2008



So all the pictures taken at the time were lies, and all the GIs who reported what they saw when they liberated the camps were lying. I'll believe my granddad's words over some punk online.
Find me a picture of someone being gassed.


find me a picture of a prisoner being executed in our modern day prisons. can't find one can you? so does that mean it never happened? you're an idiot


-- Posted by Savior at 9:51 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

Show me some sort of compelling proof the Holocaust took place.

Oh wait you can't, idiot.


-- Posted by Savior at 9:52 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

Quote: from Vintorez at 9:31 pm on Nov. 30, 2008


Quote: from kidd rune at 9:02 pm on Nov. 30, 2008


So all the pictures taken at the time were lies, and all the GIs who reported what they saw when they liberated the camps were lying.  I'll believe my granddad's words over some punk online.
Find me a picture of someone being gassed.  


find me a picture of a prisoner being executed in our modern day prisons. can't find one can you? so does that mean it never happened? you're an idiot

Next.


-- Posted by Vintorez at 10:07 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

Quote: from Savior at 12:52 am on Dec. 1, 2008


Quote: from Vintorez at 9:31 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

Quote: from kidd rune at 9:02 pm on Nov. 30, 2008


So all the pictures taken at the time were lies, and all the GIs who reported what they saw when they liberated the camps were lying. I'll believe my granddad's words over some punk online.
Find me a picture of someone being gassed.
 

 
 find me a picture of a prisoner being executed in our modern day prisons. can't find one can you? so does that mean it never happened? you're an idiot

Next.


not the actual process of being executed. just the prep phase. next


-- Posted by kidd rune at 3:42 pm on Dec. 1, 2008


After meeting and speaking personally with Eva Kor, there isn't a single shred of doubt in my soul of the terror that Jews were put through.
The sob story method.

This is, sadly, effective. Evidence and proof isn't really needed for most people I guess.


It's funny how a lot of Holocaust deniers are often the same ppl who also pull out BS about the Jewish media and how jews got what they desreve and are the source of all evil on earth.
Well, silly them.


They also often the same people who reveal later they are WN or National Socialist and go on about how Hitler is a great guy.  
Well, if you take out the genocide and whatnot - he wasn't that bad of a leader - the Germans especially loved him.


find me a picture of a prisoner being executed in our modern day prisons. can't find one can you? so does that mean it never happened? you're an idiot
I'm not making the claims. And they usually get lethally injected. And you do know that pictures of people getting killed is highly frowned upon in the UNITED STATES and other countries similar.

Though you can find MANY execution tapes from other countries online from a 10 year period - want those? I'm sure it would be against the rules to post though...

Also - find ONE person with PROOF of him being gassed - one account of a person with undeniable proof that he was GASSED to death.


-- Posted by draakprinses at 4:33 pm on Dec. 1, 2008

Quote: from kidd rune at 5:42 pm on Dec. 1, 2008



After meeting and speaking personally with Eva Kor, there isn't a single shred of doubt in my soul of the terror that Jews were put through.
The sob story method.

This is, sadly, effective. Evidence and proof isn't really needed for most people I guess.


It's funny how a lot of Holocaust deniers are often the same ppl who also pull out BS about the Jewish media and how jews got what they desreve and are the source of all evil on earth.
Well, silly them.


They also often the same people who reveal later they are WN or National Socialist and go on about how Hitler is a great guy.
Well, if you take out the genocide and whatnot - he wasn't that bad of a leader - the Germans especially loved him.


find me a picture of a prisoner being executed in our modern day prisons. can't find one can you? so does that mean it never happened? you're an idiot
I'm not making the claims. And they usually get lethally injected. And you do know that pictures of people getting killed is highly frowned upon in the UNITED STATES and other countries similar.

Though you can find MANY execution tapes from other countries online from a 10 year period - want those? I'm sure it would be against the rules to post though...

 

Also - find ONE person with PROOF of him being gassed - one account of a person with undeniable proof that he was GASSED to death.


You honestly and truly believe that despite the thousands of dead bodies, remnants from concentration camps, pictures, and crude video, that it was all an elaborate hoax?

What kind of motivation would that take? It makes no sense.


-- Posted by kidd rune at 4:42 pm on Dec. 1, 2008


You honestly and truly believe that despite the thousands of dead bodies
Thousands isn't millions.


remnants from concentration camps
What remnants do you speak of?


pictures
I have failed to see a picture of someone being gassed.

And some of the pictures have been deemed faked.


and crude video
Send me these videos - make sure they weren't the ones created by the Soviets as propaganda either.


that it was all an elaborate hoax
Well - that all depends on what you mean.

I believe that Jews and others were persecuted under the Third Reich and thousands died - but do I believe 6million died? Do I believe there were mass gassings and a planned genocide of the entire Jewish people?

Nope.


-- Posted by draakprinses at 4:48 pm on Dec. 1, 2008

Quote: from kidd rune at 6:42 pm on Dec. 1, 2008



You honestly and truly believe that despite the thousands of dead bodies
Thousands isn't millions.


remnants from concentration camps
What remnants do you speak of?


pictures
I have failed to see a picture of someone being gassed.

And some of the pictures have been deemed faked.


and crude video
Send me these videos - make sure they weren't the ones created by the Soviets as propaganda either.


that it was all an elaborate hoax
Well - that all depends on what you mean.

I believe that Jews and others were persecuted under the Third Reich and thousands died - but do I believe 6million died? Do I believe there were mass gassings and a planned genocide of the entire Jewish people?

Nope.


That's just sad...and sick. I suggest you read Night by Elie Wiesel. It might inform you.


-- Posted by jakelong at 5:01 pm on Dec. 1, 2008

Quote: from draakprinses at 4:33 pm on Dec. 1, 2008


What kind of motivation would that take? It makes no sense.
Makes no sense but KR and the National Socialist' motivation to deny the facts is that they don't want to see Nazis as the bad guys.  


-- Posted by kidd rune at 5:15 pm on Dec. 1, 2008


That's just sad...and sick. I suggest you read Night by Elie Wiesel. It might inform you.
Want some book suggestions by me?

I'll throw in about 30 free eBooks with it!


Makes no sense but KR and the National Socialist' motivation to deny the facts is that they don't want to see Nazis as the bad guys.
Jakey, there's actually a site dedicated towards Holocaust debate.

You register and the admin has to approve of your account - I just registered but can't post yet.


Maybe you should consider arguing with them and proving their racism!

http://forum.codoh.com/index.php


-- Posted by justin1990rm at 5:25 pm on Dec. 1, 2008

the nazis burned all the pictures before they were released


-- Posted by jakelong at 5:30 pm on Dec. 1, 2008

Quote: from kidd rune at 5:15 pm on Dec. 1, 2008


Maybe you should consider arguing with them and proving their racism!
I proved yours. I know your own motivation.


-- Posted by whoisabs at 5:34 pm on Dec. 1, 2008

Quote: from jakelong at 5:30 pm on Dec. 1, 2008


Quote: from kidd rune at 5:15 pm on Dec. 1, 2008

Maybe you should consider arguing with them and proving their racism!
I proved yours. I know your own motivation.

Kind of like how you know the motivation of three blacks walking down the street together is to go gang rape some poor white women?


-- Posted by jakelong at 5:47 pm on Dec. 1, 2008

Yep that's exaclty what KR says about blacks. He used the stats to "prove" that blacks are motivated to rape white women. Wanna argue against him?

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