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-- Posted by Jettie12 at 8:31 pm on Dec. 1, 2008

All my points for whoever (whomever?) may assuage my grammatical conundrum.

In a recent topic I posted this:


To whoever's post happens above roflfuckyou's, if she is to post in this topic.

Should it be whoever's or whomever's?  


-- Posted by Praise the Lard at 8:31 pm on Dec. 1, 2008

OK did some research on the argument, and it hit me; the original sentence you gave is not grammatically correct, regardless of the whomever/whoever conflict. Once you fix the sentence, you can figure out if the whomever/whoever clause is the subject or object. If it's the subject, then it's whoever. If it's the object, then it's whomever. I think.


-- Posted by glowinthedark at 8:32 pm on Dec. 1, 2008

Either way, it should be GLOWINTHEDARK that gets points.


I freakin' tried.


-- Posted by PotPom at 8:32 pm on Dec. 1, 2008

i say whoever....


-- Posted by roflfuckyou at 8:33 pm on Dec. 1, 2008

i told you to ask Praise the Lard.

will you ever listen to me?


-- Posted by Colleen35 at 8:36 pm on Dec. 1, 2008

The case given here is a use of English possessive, which is formed by adding an -'s suffix to the subjective form of the word.  'Whoever' is subjective, where 'whomever' is objective.

For the record, in most English dialects, 'whomever' is more or less defunct.  I would say that it's generally appropriate to not use it at all.


-- Posted by dianabitch at 8:38 pm on Dec. 1, 2008

most people say whoever, but its "whomever".


-- Posted by crazyboy1992 at 8:42 pm on Dec. 1, 2008

whomever's


-- Posted by Colleen35 at 8:44 pm on Dec. 1, 2008

'to which ever person (obj) whose (possessive) post...'

'person' suspended in ellipsis, 'whose' + 'ever' --> "whoever's"


-- Posted by cherryD at 7:31 am on Dec. 3, 2008

There's usually two subjects in that sentence, right? So if you are not talking about the main subject, then it's whomever...


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