-- Posted by Anonymous at 5:43 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Like this one? http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2677098.ece Who agrees or agrees with the study? -- Posted by OodleNoodle at 5:45 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Because it's wrong to categorize by race. People are stupid. Why does it matter if they're black, white or purple? -- Posted by h a t t at 5:46 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 well it wasn't a study. he didn't cite any specific tests or studies, just his personal opinion. -- Posted by snowcone200 at 5:47 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 I didn't read the article in full but I like to think as articles/topics with those Statements as their titles are often weak in detail or weak in substance so thus topics hide behind powerful or controversial statements. -- Posted by trinity fosho at 5:50 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Its bad... Because I believe it and live it everyday. -- Posted by kidd rune at 5:51 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Why does it matter if they're black, white or purple? That's why they're doing the studies - to see if race (Implying that the colors you named indicated race) really "Matters." We all know Blacks tend to have lower intelligent levels and average IQs. What does it mean? It means that the average Black has a lower IQ than the average White. You may ask why, and that's what you should do. It's a great question to ask "Why" - but you won't get a perfect answer. And William Shockley - a Nobel Prize winner and scientific genius said that "The major cause for American Negroes' hereditary is origin and thus not remedial to a major degree by improvement in environment." He also said that he'd debate anyone about race as long as they strapped a lie detector to themselves. -- Posted by jakelong at 1:13 am on Dec. 3, 2008 Did you say   "Blacks are less intelligent"? or   Did you say   "A scientist CLAIMS that blacks are less intelligent"? Big difference By the way NO STUDY is referred to by the scientist. Its a PERSONAL comment. This is ALL he said He claimed genes responsible for creating differences in human intelligence could be found within a decade. Which means the evidence for that link is NOT HERE YET! -- Posted by jakelong at 1:20 am on Dec. 3, 2008 Quote: from h a t t at 5:46 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 well it wasn't a study. he didn't cite any specific tests or studies, just his personal opinion. Exactly. You're the only other one on this thread who noticed. Funny no? -- Posted by Bud2400 at 2:16 pm on Dec. 3, 2008 Quote: from jakelong at 1:13 am on Dec. 3, 2008 Did you say "Blacks are less intelligent"? or Did you say "A scientist CLAIMS that blacks are less intelligent"? Big difference The difference isn't as big as you make it out to be.  If we agree that the scientist's findings are true, then we agree that black people are less intelligent. Take my little research awhile back for exaple: http://www.golivewire.com/forums/peer-yapyobt-support-a.html I was careful to include the bold in the statement "According to my results, blacks don't tip as well as other races" as sort of a safeguard against any attacks that may come my way as being baseless and rooted from prejudice, but I really didn't have to.  With my results in mind, the statement "Blacks don't tip as well as other races" is just as true as the former statement. The big thing, Jake, is to watch out for those who lead you into believing that because blacks tend to have lower IQs as a collective, just about all black individuals are more stupid than any other individual of a different race.  And another big thing to watch out for are those scientists who don't address the inherent weaknesses of measuring intelligence through IQs, the alleged lack of validity IQ has, or the weaknesses of their research design and method of collecting data.  Nothing in science is ever perfect, though many with an agenda will try to paint it that way.  This is a big reason why you never see these white nationalist studies ever give props to arguments which contradicts theirs, or address the weanesses in their own arguments. -- Posted by jakelong at 3:44 pm on Dec. 3, 2008 Quote: from Bud2400 at 2:16 pm on Dec. 3, 2008 The difference isn't as big as you make it out to be.  If we agree that the scientist's findings are true, then we agree that black people are less intelligent. Except that it was a PERSONAL comment NOT a scientific finding. If you really read the ariticle he does NOT point to ANY study or research. Just makes a comment -- Posted by Bud2400 at 12:38 am on Dec. 4, 2008 Quote: from jakelong at 3:44 pm on Dec. 3, 2008 Except that it was a PERSONAL comment NOT a scientific finding. If you really read the ariticle he does NOT point to ANY study or research. Just makes a comment Yes, I see your point.