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-- Posted by LoveKay at 9:50 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
Hello. I'm writing an argumentative research paper and it needs to be about 12 pages long. I have only three weeks to get the final draft done and turned it. I need opinions on this topic to include in my paper. Is it healthier / better to be vegan / vegetarian, or is meat & dairy eating essential for humans? What do you think? Or do you not have a strong opinion on the subject? REMEMBER THIS IS NOT ON PERSONAL PREFERENCE, BUT AN OPINION ON THE MATTER. Thanks. Please vote, and if you want, argue this as well! Thanks.
-- Posted by Anonymous at 9:51 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
vegetarians and vegans are retarded.
-- Posted by imSOFAKINGrad at 9:51 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
fuck that, i love meat and dairy
-- Posted by Light Assassin at 9:51 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
Quote: from shesallithinkabout at 9:51 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
vegetarians and vegans are retarded.
not true, but I'd like to proudly say that I am a Meatatarian
-- Posted by mcrgrl9 at 9:51 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
although it IS a proven fact that you dont HAVE to have meat everyday >.< im thinking about going Vegan
-- Posted by Light Assassin at 9:51 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
Quote: from noahjk at 9:51 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
Quote: from shesallithinkabout at 9:51 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
vegetarians and vegans are retarded.
not true, but I'd like to proudly say that I am a Meatatarian 
hahaha this is who is anon in the first post... i caught them before they did it
-- Posted by Neodymie at 9:53 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
Quote: from noahjk at 9:51 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
Quote: from shesallithinkabout at 9:51 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
vegetarians and vegans are retarded.
not true, but I'd like to proudly say that I am a Meatatarian 
No it's true.
-- Posted by Light Assassin at 9:53 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
Quote: from neodymie at 9:53 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
Quote: from noahjk at 9:51 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
Quote: from shesallithinkabout at 9:51 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
vegetarians and vegans are retarded.
not true, but I'd like to proudly say that I am a Meatatarian 
No it's true. 
why is everyone being no help
-- Posted by blitzerdog at 9:54 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
Well Meat is essential for the iron that it gives off into our bodies. It's essential because iron carries hemoglobin in the blood and myglobin in the muscles and helps produce oxygen for our body. You can supplement with iron pills, however.
-- Posted by aleiram51 at 9:54 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
my uncle is vegan and has been for i think 12 years. he takes about 20 daily supplements to stay healthy and get all his nutrition.
-- Posted by lucid dreams19 at 9:55 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
i d not tihnk being either is sensible. You need the nutrients in meat to live, and artificial things just arent sensible. Other animals kill other animals for food so why cant we do the same.
-- Posted by blitzerdog at 9:56 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
Quote: from aleiram51 at 9:54 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
my uncle is vegan and has been for i think 12 years. he takes about 20 daily supplements to stay healthy and get all his nutrition.
There's both positives and negatives towards being a vegan or not. By supplementing 20 daily doses of minerals and vitamins, that can take a toll on your liver. However too much meat can cause cholesterol, triglycerides, fatty build up in the heart canals... etc. There has to be a lot of research on the internet regarding this topic.
-- Posted by lucid dreams19 at 9:57 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
Quote: from blitzerdog at 11:56 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
Quote: from aleiram51 at 9:54 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
my uncle is vegan and has been for i think 12 years. he takes about 20 daily supplements to stay healthy and get all his nutrition.
There's both positives and negatives towards being a vegan or not. By supplementing 20 daily doses of minerals and vitamins, that can take a toll on your liver. However too much meat can cause cholesterol, triglycerides, fatty build up in the heart canals... etc. There has to be a lot of research on the internet regarding this topic. 
well ya its all about a healthy median, which involves both meat, dairy, fruits and vegetables and dairy.
-- Posted by blitzerdog at 9:58 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
Quote: from shesallithinkabout at 9:57 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
Quote: from blitzerdog at 11:56 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
Quote: from aleiram51 at 9:54 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
my uncle is vegan and has been for i think 12 years. he takes about 20 daily supplements to stay healthy and get all his nutrition.
There's both positives and negatives towards being a vegan or not. By supplementing 20 daily doses of minerals and vitamins, that can take a toll on your liver. However too much meat can cause cholesterol, triglycerides, fatty build up in the heart canals... etc. There has to be a lot of research on the internet regarding this topic. 
well ya its all about a healthy median, which involves both meat, dairy, fruits and vegetables and dairy. 
Yeah, hence the representation of the food charts. :)
-- Posted by FurryPanther at 10:04 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
I have no issue with people choosing it, but I personally do not support the proposed health benefits of a vegan diet. And I most certainly do not support the vegan flagship that is soy. There are drawbacks that few realize. FP
-- Posted by addicted to girls at 10:06 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
No strong opinion.
-- Posted by babykikigrl04 at 10:07 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
eating meat and dairy can be a healthy meal along with friuts, vegetables and some type of starch. you don't need meat everyday and should eat veggies and fruits everyday. just make sure you have all the nutrients that you need for your body.
-- Posted by blackbandaid at 10:08 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
I'm vegetarian but not vegan. We actually DON'T need meat. Originally humans didn't eat it. Or atleast not very much. You can get all the nutrients/supplements you need without meat as long as you're aware of it. PLUS. being a vegetarian is way way way better for the environment. better than riding a bike to work every day etc.
-- Posted by handsfree at 10:08 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
Meat & dairy are essential.
-- Posted by CrazyGrrl4U at 10:09 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
vegans are causing global warming.. they eat our plants which we need to filter out the CO2 thats in our air.. if the vegans would eat an animal they would help reduce the amount of pollution in our ecosystem that animal cause with their "gases" .. EAT MEAT SLOW DOWN GLOBAL WARMING!!
-- Posted by Neodymie at 10:10 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
Quote: from blackbandaid at 10:08 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
I'm vegetarian but not vegan. We actually DON'T need meat. Originally humans didn't eat it. Or atleast not very much.
Epic fail. You ever wonder why you have an appendix?
-- Posted by FurryPanther at 10:13 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
Quote: from blackbandaid at 11:08 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
I'm vegetarian but not vegan. We actually DON'T need meat. Originally humans didn't eat it. Or atleast not very much. You can get all the nutrients/supplements you need without meat as long as you're aware of it. PLUS. being a vegetarian is way way way better for the environment. better than riding a bike to work every day etc. 
Humans, and early hominids, have been scavengers for over 6 million years, with a decent percentage of their diet being meat. So that's a false statement. FP
-- Posted by LoveKay at 10:14 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
Quote: from crazygrrl4u at 11:09 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
vegans are causing global warming.. they eat our plants which we need to filter out the CO2 thats in our air.. if the vegans would eat an animal they would help reduce the amount of pollution in our ecosystem that animal cause with their "gases" .. EAT MEAT SLOW DOWN GLOBAL WARMING!! 
Eat meat and become fat like the rest of America. Don't eat veggies and become fat like the rest of America. Hm... yeah, I don't think I like either one of those options. You idiots and your global warming and misconceptions and misinterpretations. Idiots, idiots, idiots. By the way, if any animal causes pollution, we would be on top of the list. Besides, it's now being said that humans, after all, really might not have anything to do with global warming at all. So shut your face.
-- Posted by Neodymie at 10:15 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
Quote: from LoveKay at 10:14 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
Quote: from crazygrrl4u at 11:09 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
vegans are causing global warming.. they eat our plants which we need to filter out the CO2 thats in our air.. if the vegans would eat an animal they would help reduce the amount of pollution in our ecosystem that animal cause with their "gases" .. EAT MEAT SLOW DOWN GLOBAL WARMING!! 
Eat meat and become fat like the rest of America. Don't eat veggies and become fat like the rest of America. Hm... yeah, I don't think I like either one of those options. You idiots and your global warming and misconceptions and misinterpretations. Idiots, idiots, idiots. 
WTF? Eating meat doesn't make you fat. Eating too much will make you fat.
-- Posted by blackbandaid at 10:21 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
Quote: from FurryPanther at 7:13 pm on Dec. 3, 2008
Quote: from blackbandaid at 11:08 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
I'm vegetarian but not vegan. We actually DON'T need meat. Originally humans didn't eat it. Or atleast not very much. You can get all the nutrients/supplements you need without meat as long as you're aware of it. PLUS. being a vegetarian is way way way better for the environment. better than riding a bike to work every day etc. 
Humans, and early hominids, have been scavengers for over 6 million years, with a decent percentage of their diet being meat. So that's a false statement. FP 
How awkward. ...it's still better for the environment...
-- Posted by Medicated Smile at 10:25 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
I am vegan, and I do make sure to get all my nutrients (I take a multivitamin with extra B12, omega3s, and calcium). I eat tofu/seitan/etc every day, fruits every day, salad every day. Haven't touched junk food, energy drinks, etc in years. I'd reccomend checking out PETA or Matthew Lush's info on veganism, they have got it down well.
-- Posted by FurryPanther at 10:26 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
Quote: from blackbandaid at 11:21 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
How awkward. ...it's still better for the environment... 
Not really. The amount of energy needed to make a large number of vegan products, namely soy, tofu, and vitamin supplements, is fairly high. And the majority of power comes from coal factories. So supporting high energy requirement foods is supporting high energy usage, and thus, high pollution production. FP
-- Posted by austin s23 at 10:27 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
IM A VEGAN!
-- Posted by FurryPanther at 10:28 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
Quote: from austin s23 at 11:27 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
IM A VEGAN!
You poor soul. Also, way to not answer the question. FP
-- Posted by blackbandaid at 11:28 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
Quote: from FurryPanther at 7:26 pm on Dec. 3, 2008
Quote: from blackbandaid at 11:21 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
How awkward. ...it's still better for the environment... 
Not really. The amount of energy needed to make a large number of vegan products, namely soy, tofu, and vitamin supplements, is fairly high. And the majority of power comes from coal factories. So supporting high energy requirement foods is supporting high energy usage, and thus, high pollution production. FP 
Buuut. What if your not vegan? If I'm just vegetarian. Maybe it's different in the states? I dunno, here it always says it's better for the environment to vegetarian. Because of the cow flatulence and transport etc. I think it's different in NZ. We have very little coal usage. Most factories are quite environmentally friendly. I dun wanna fight or anything. just saying what i thought i knew...
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