Pages: 1 2  Next -- Posted by Event Horizon at 5:11 pm on Dec. 16, 2008 Alright, i've got to get this off my chest. --Smoking a whole bunch of weed does NOT make you cool. --Saying "It takes at least a gram to get ME high" doesn't make you cool --Saying "I smoke diesel" or any other name does not make you cool. and here's why: 1) Smoking an ounce a week or even a half, really, is not something to brag about. that is a lot of weed to be smoking in one week. Not only does it point out that you probably smoke more than you are sober --not cool-- but it also shows that you are wasting your money -- also not cool. Being high all day is NOT a cool thing to do. If someone calls you a stoner or a pot head and says that you are probably lazy and non-productive; you probably are. If you can't go through a normal day without being high, then you have a problem. It may not be a physical addiction, but it is up there in the "I gotz problemz" scale. Along with spending all your money on pot. If you spend the majority of your money on pot, you are not cool. Thus, acting like you spend so much money on pot is MORE uncool [or 'less cool still' for all you english major freaks]. 2) Saying that "small" amounts of weed don't get you high isn't cool. If you don't get high off a gram [+ or - .5] then you are doing one of two things wrong [or both]     a) Your weed is shitty. If it takes you 2 grams to get high, then no matter what you say you are smoking shitty weed. I don't care how long you've been smoking or how much [not cool remember] tolerance never gets to the point where you can't get high off a gram of good weed. [now, if you are talking about getting retarded high, perhaps, but if you say anything above 2 grams then your weed is shit. You shouldn't need an eighth to get high.     b) Your tolerance is too high. If you smoke 1.5 grams and you don't really feel that baked, chances are your tolerance is too high. Someone who enjoys smoking weed will take a break for a couple days [2-7] and then get right back to it. That person knows when his tolerance is too high, and WANTS to lower it. Remember, saying "Dude, I can smoke 3 grams before I get super high" is not cool. It just means that you have to spend 6 times more money to get high than someone equally as experienced as you. 3) You probably aren't. Dealers don't get a ton of exotic shit, and what they do get they don't distribute to towny pot-heads. They either smoke it themselves or smoke it with their friends. If you DO have a hook up to some exotic bud you usually don't buy a damn gram of it. Exotic weed is hard to come by and is typically not mass produced. So most of you small time smokers have probably only smoked the HUGE variety of weed that I call "the regular shit" This stuff can be quite good. It may make you trip out, but if you've ever smoked something exotic, you can tell the difference. Obviously this doesn't apply to everyone. I'm just sick of people creating topics like "I smoke an ounce of Big League Chew [a nice exotic bud that comes into the Albany and Syracuse areas from Canada] a week, and it takes like 2 grams to get me high from that shit!" Not only does that make people who smoke weed sound like idiots, but it is also a blatant lie. It doesn't make you look cool. I mean, sure, perhaps some kids look at that and say "wow, I smoked a bowl and got really high, he must be a TANK" but those of us who actually do smoke on a daily basis [with regular tolerance checks --at least I do] know that you probably smoke shitty weed and have nothing better to do. Bottom line: Cool people do not sit around all day smoking tons and tons of shitty weed. -- Posted by Troll of Truth at 5:12 pm on Dec. 16, 2008 Calm down. Thanks for blahing about the obvious to the olders. -- Posted by LightThisCity at 5:12 pm on Dec. 16, 2008 Truth. -- Posted by hollisterchick at 5:12 pm on Dec. 16, 2008 ive dated so many pot heads. :| not good. -- Posted by gothmary at 5:13 pm on Dec. 16, 2008 i totally agree -- Posted by bosss at 5:13 pm on Dec. 16, 2008 well apparently you can buy good weed for $100 an ounce? hah nah but yee. you're right. -- Posted by ArrestedAndCharged at 5:13 pm on Dec. 16, 2008 Agreed! -- Posted by TomNsR at 5:15 pm on Dec. 16, 2008 Smoking weed is not cool. But it is fun :) I have no tolerance to it, and I'm glad. I'd happily share a 10 bag with 3 people and still get baked. -- Posted by chuckibladez at 5:20 pm on Dec. 16, 2008 I hate faggot-ass weed smokers (I dont mean this to sound like a brag) who go around saying 'my shits better than yours', i can smoke well more weed than you' (i just challenge them to some bongs, then they go down) Fair enough my tolerance is quite high, and I understand that I have a mild MENTAL (not physical sorry) addiction, I may be proud that I can smoke quite a lot and that I'v never gone white but its not something which I brag about all the time. To be honest, i find it quite annoying that I have to smoke a lot to get high, but because I'm round it everyday it's a little more of a bugger to have breaks from, but I'm still happy in my mind so don't disturb me yet :) We get exotic green every once in a while, and it is a real fuckin delicacy when we get it, I mean the nicest crystalline buds you could imagine (unless you get nicer shit than me) and it's potent as fuck, but the ganja tht we get as a regular is still strong shit, dont get me wrong, so it kinda ruins the exotics (except when we get ARMAGEDDON :D) I get called a pothead/baghead/stoner but I'm not inactive all day long when I'm smoking weed, I'm still holding together a college course and I do other things than smoke weed (make music, mountain bike). I, like you (i think), just want the people giving respectable stoners a bad name to GTFO! cos we don't need them -- Posted by Event Horizon at 5:20 pm on Dec. 16, 2008 Quote: from TomNSR at 8:15 pm on Dec. 16, 2008 Smoking weed is not cool. But it is fun :)   I have no tolerance to it, and I'm glad. I'd happily share a 10 bag with 3 people and still get baked. ^ this is a "cool" smoking mentality.   I would just as well accept being able to get baked off .5 Actually. My bong takes about .5-.6 in the pack, and if i take the whole pack I'm usually pretty high. [though, to get baked I usually pack it twice or three times] And I have been smoking every day for the last three semesters [with several tolerance breaks spread out through that time period] -- Posted by Event Horizon at 5:23 pm on Dec. 16, 2008 Quote: from chuckibladez at 8:20 pm on Dec. 16, 2008 I, like you (i think), just want the people giving respectable stoners a bad name to GTFO! cos we don't need them I personally don't care who smokes it or how they talk about it. If, after reading this --heh, yea right-- someone doesn't care and keeps going on about how much they can smoke, fine. I just felt like i had to say SOMETHING. more of a rant really. -- Posted by greatescape at 5:24 pm on Dec. 16, 2008 Quote: from Event Horizon at 7:11 pm on Dec. 16, 2008      b) Your tolerance is too high. If you smoke 1.5 grams and you don't really feel that baked, chances are your tolerance is too high. Someone who enjoys smoking weed will take a break for a couple days [2-7] and then get right back to it. That person knows when his tolerance is too high, and WANTS to lower it. I agree with a good number of your points. While there are definitely a lot more people in the world who smoke than just your stereotypical stoner, there definitely are those who use the drug in excess and let it take over their life. Also, I do agree that I never understood why people brag about having to use a shit ton of weed to get high. It's a waste, and it does probably mean that you are getting crap. The only thing I want to bring up is the part I quoted. Tolerance with marijuana is a tricky thing. You can't really use it in the classical sense of the word, because usually tolerance implies physically addictive properties. I think this is a good bit on it, done by Jon Gettman The effects of marijuana can be sorted into four categories. First, there are modest physical effects, such as a slight change in heart rate or blood pressure and changes in body temperature. Tolerance develops to these effects with familiarity and/or regular use.   Tolerance next develops to the depressant effects of marijuana, particularly to its effects on motor coordination. However, tolerance to these effects depends on the quality of the marijuana consumed as well as the frequency of use. THC is one of several cannabinoids in marijuana. While it is the only cannabinoid to produce the psychoactive or stimulative effects, another cannabinoid, named cannabinol (CBN), produces only the depressant effects. CBN is generally present in low-potency marijuana, or very old marijuana in which the THC has decayed; it accounts for the generally undesirable effects of bad pot. While cannabinol gets someone "stoned," THC gets them "high."   After a while, tolerance develops to even the stimulative effects of marijuana. Experienced users learn that there is an outer limit to how high they can get. Paradoxically, this limit can only be exceeded by lower consumption. -- Posted by katjassidekick at 5:26 pm on Dec. 16, 2008 I wonder who said smoking an oz. a week is cool, I really do. I don't know if it's just me, or you just like to assume. It makes me truly laugh that everything you've just said in this post probably tracks back to my topic (keep in mind, I said probably). Smoking weed doesn't make you cool, but tripping out like you are really trigger my funny bones. How much effect I can have on someone to make them burst really does it for me. I wonder why it bothers you so much if someone has a high tolerance for marijuana. I wonder why it bothers you so much if someone smokes ___ a day/week/month. So tell me, why make such a big deal? A real smoker shouldn't care how much it gets someone high or how much someone spends money on marijuana. When you smoke, you smoke. Care for yourself, not for others. -- Posted by MourningAir at 5:28 pm on Dec. 16, 2008 Way to get your panties in a bunch over something so trivial. -- Posted by bosss at 5:30 pm on Dec. 16, 2008 hahaha -- Posted by Event Horizon at 5:32 pm on Dec. 16, 2008 Quote: from katjassidekick at 8:26 pm on Dec. 16, 2008 I wonder who said smoking an oz. a week is cool, I really do. I don't know if it's just me, or you just like to assume. It makes me truly laugh that everything you've just said in this post probably tracks back to my topic (keep in mind, I said probably). Smoking weed doesn't make you cool, but tripping out like you are really triggers my funny bones. How much affect I can make someone burst really does it. I wonder why it bothers you so much if someone has a high tolerance for marijuana. I wonder why it bothers you so much if someone smokes ___ a day/week/month. True, your topic inspired it.   True, you never said it was cool But,   This isn't a response to your topic and People DO think that the more you smoke = the cooler you are Also, all i said was that you smoke crap weed. I didn't insult you or anything [unless you consider the weed as something special to you, which i doubt]. And I even offered you a suggestion on how to remedy spending $400 a month on just pot. Greatescape11 After a while, tolerance develops to even the stimulative effects of marijuana. Experienced users learn that there is an outer limit to how high they can get. Paradoxically, this limit can only be exceeded by lower consumption. see, the thing with this is is that I believe this deals with smokers of heavy use over 2-5+ years or so. Where THC has become a very familiar, daily substance. And it points out a very good point.   The HIGH Threshold There is a limit to how high a person can get --experienced users can reach this state and actually understand that they are there-- that cannot be exceeded. So, a lot of times, some of you folks are probably smoking far more than you need too. -- Posted by Event Horizon at 5:34 pm on Dec. 16, 2008 Quote: from MourningAir at 8:28 pm on Dec. 16, 2008 Way to get your panties in a bunch over something so trivial. That's actually a pretty calm post. I guess the caps make it seem kind of "shouty", I just find them easier than doing this when i want to make an emphasis on a word. basically, how are YOU doing and how are you doing are pretty much the same thing to me. I probably should stress that in the beginning of my long posts, huh -- Posted by greatescape at 5:45 pm on Dec. 16, 2008 Quote: from Event Horizon at 7:32 pm on Dec. 16, 2008 see, the thing with this is is that I believe this deals with smokers of heavy use over 2-5+ years or so. Where THC has become a very familiar, daily substance. And it points out a very good point. Everything I've read indicates that it is definitely not that long.  Consistent usage (meaning nearly daily) for a period of about 4 months can give the user a very clear idea of each and every effect of the drug.  The brain can remember chemical changes such as this. The HIGH Threshold There is a limit to how high a person can get --experienced users can reach this state and actually understand that they are there-- that cannot be exceeded. So, a lot of times, some of you folks are probably smoking far more than you need too. I completely agree with this.  I think a lot of new users are soooo enthralled with the drug that they think the more the merrier.  This is absolutely not the case.   In his article, he went on to explain that portion of the study. "The NIMH tolerance study confirms what most marijuana smokers have already discovered for themselves: The more often you smoke, the less high you get. The dose of THC used in the study was 10 mg per kilogram of body weight, a dose frequently used in clinical research. What is the equivalent of 10 mg/kg of THC in terms of human consumption? While most users are familiar with varying potencies of marijuana, many are only vaguely aware of differences in the efficiency of various ways to smoke it. Clinical studies indicate that only 10 to 20% of the available THC is transferred from a joint cigarette to the body. A pipe is better, allowing for 45% of the available THC to be consumed. A bong is a very efficient delivery system for marijuana; in ideal conditions the only THC lost is in the exhaled smoke. The minimum dose of THC required to get a person high is 10 micrograms per kilogram of body weight. For a 165-pound person, this would be 750 micrograms of THC, about what is delivered by one bong hit. " -- Posted by Event Horizon at 5:53 pm on Dec. 16, 2008 Quote: from greatescape11 at 8:45 pm on Dec. 16, 2008 Everything I've read indicates that it is definitely not that long.  Consistent usage (meaning nearly daily) for a period of about 4 months can give the user a very clear idea of each and every effect of the drug.  The brain can remember chemical changes such as this. Oh, excuse me, I thought you were talking about something chemical. Oh yea, 4 months of medium to heavy use and you should know the ins and outs of being high pretty well. If the low dosage point was what i think it is, then that is 100% correct as well. There comes a point where you peak, and then anything past that only serves to add the cannabinol to your system, making you feel groggy and unpleasant. The point is to find out where your THC to CBN ratio is very high. short story: agreed. pardon my misreading.     I completely agree with this.  I think a lot of new users are soooo enthralled with the drug that they think the more the merrier.  This is absolutely not the case.   yup In his article, he went on to explain that portion of the study. "The NIMH tolerance study confirms what most marijuana smokers have already discovered for themselves: The more often you smoke, the less high you get.   The dose of THC used in the study was 10 mg per kilogram of body weight, a dose frequently used in clinical research. What is the equivalent of 10 mg/kg of THC in terms of human consumption?   While most users are familiar with varying potencies of marijuana, many are only vaguely aware of differences in the efficiency of various ways to smoke it. Clinical studies indicate that only 10 to 20% of the available THC is transferred from a joint cigarette to the body. A pipe is better, allowing for 45% of the available THC to be consumed. A bong is a very efficient delivery system for marijuana; in ideal conditions the only THC lost is in the exhaled smoke.   The minimum dose of THC required to get a person high is 10 micrograms per kilogram of body weight. For a 165-pound person, this would be 750 micrograms of THC, about what is delivered by one bong hit. " sounds like a great article. That is why I advocate only bongs or vap's. [I mean, i don't go against blunts or joints obviously] -- Posted by greatescape at 6:01 pm on Dec. 16, 2008 This is the full article if you're interested.  I'm not sure where an original version is but someone posted the full thing on that forum. :) -- Posted by Brianna666 at 9:21 pm on Dec. 16, 2008 fucking stupid. weed doesn't do shit to you or your health. you wasted your time on writing all that. -- Posted by Event Horizon at 7:32 am on Dec. 17, 2008 Quote: from Brianna666 at 12:21 am on Dec. 17, 2008 fucking stupid. weed doesn't do shit to you or your health. you wasted your time on writing all that. LOL -- Posted by Skip at 7:38 am on Dec. 17, 2008 i smoke every day and i dont even say that to be cool or do it to be cool so fuck u -- Posted by Event Horizon at 7:43 am on Dec. 17, 2008 Quote: from Skip at 10:38 am on Dec. 17, 2008 i smoke every day and i dont even say that to be cool or do it to be cool so fuck u So do i you fucking idiot lol I think I even said that in my post, maybe not. But there is nothing "cool" about smoking every day. It doesn't make you a person that others look to and say, "Man, I wish I could smoke as much as that guy" That's all I was getting at in the post; if you actually read it... -- Posted by Skip at 7:46 am on Dec. 17, 2008 why do u care so much then smoke some weed and live ur life son -- Posted by Event Horizon at 7:59 am on Dec. 17, 2008 Quote: from Skip at 10:46 am on Dec. 17, 2008 why do u care so much then smoke some weed and live ur life son Smoke weed and live your life? C'mon, really? Are you like a sherpa or something lol I just can't stand it when people talk like that: "Yo, I just smoked 3 grams of KGB and I'm not even stoned man!" or "I buy an ounce of ak-47 every week and smoke that shit by myself, cause I can" Just annoys the heck outta me. -- Posted by HeadUpInTheClouds at 12:21 pm on Dec. 17, 2008 i dont care what you think. i love smoking. nobody said it was cool. and it only takes me a couple hits to get high. -- Posted by Event Horizon at 12:25 pm on Dec. 17, 2008 moron ^ -- Posted by Alecks at 1:02 pm on Dec. 17, 2008 I'm off the chronic for the time being. Studying for my Leaving Cert. Going Amsterdam afterwards though. Weed ftw. -- Posted by Berend at 4:03 pm on Dec. 18, 2008 Fuck being cool... I smoke weed because I enjoy it and have fun! Also, some of your weights aren't really correct... Most people feel nice and mellow after sharing a spliff between (lets say) 2 peeps. In Amsterdam you find spliffs behind the counter which contain 0.5g of grade in them (this is of the cheaper varieties - more expensive buds are more around 0.3g, because they are stronger). I really think a spliff usually contains less than 0.5g of ganja... But all in all, nice rant! Pages: 1 2  Next