Pages: 1 2  Next -- Posted by MourningAir at 12:04 am on Dec. 24, 2008 lol -- Posted by britfuck at 12:07 am on Dec. 24, 2008 i'll take a number. -- Posted by MourningAir at 12:07 am on Dec. 24, 2008 Why is it so hard not to post if you're not going to read it? -- Posted by Aqueous at 12:07 am on Dec. 24, 2008 I don't know what to say, other than good luck, and i know you can do it if you try. -- Posted by BeautifulxLiar at 12:09 am on Dec. 24, 2008 i think youre strong for knowing you need to stop and so what if you need god to stop. i needed my cousin to get me to stop cutting, and some lady on a hotline number. im not weak. bc im strong enough to not do it. im proud of you also:im here if you want to talk ILT -- Posted by Spice at 12:18 am on Dec. 24, 2008 heyhey, I've always seen you around and have thought you to be a pretty awesome person to be quite honest. I've never been near drugs or anything so I can't offer help on that side of things, I'm afraid. But to me it really sounds like you have that area sussed. I love the fact you've come to this conclusion yourself rather than being forced by friends or families. They say the people who recover best are the people like you who do it all yourself. You are pretty strong to have even come this far. Isn't withdrawal the hardest when you first start and it's meant to get easier as time goes by? Just think whenever dxm or anything like that comes into your head of that time you took 900mg. Do you really want to experience that again excluding the fact it made you high? Do you really want everything else that goes along with it. In the end, you sound strong enough to do this for yourself. Your fiancee is getting help and you're helping yourself. I think you need to believe you can do this no matter what it takes. You'll stop hurting your friends, your family, most of all, you'll stop hurting yourself. You can find a place just as happy without drugs. It's harder, but it's oh so more worth it. You are awesome. You're strong. You can do this. If it helps, I believe in you. =] -- Posted by TheatreMinelli at 12:19 am on Dec. 24, 2008 If you are serious about kicking this you cannot be around friends that still use drugs....you just can't. Keep strong I know how hard it can be I have seen a friend ruined by drugs and alcohol and its worth giving it up. You seem like you have sense, and you are ovbs intelligent. good Luck. -- Posted by MourningAir at 12:27 am on Dec. 24, 2008 Thanks for the replies everyone. The hardest part about this is that I keep trying to convince myself I don't have a problem. I keep thinking that just because dxm isn't coke or heroin, that I can't possibly have a problem with it. And I never thought I'd be like this. I've done coke and massive amounts of pills and yeah I will do any substance to self-medicate but I never before had much of a preference for any particular thing. I was just always doing whatever was there and because i was switching it up so much, I never considered it a problem. Now that in the past 8 months I've become so obsessed with dxm, I've been able to see how unhealthy my behavior is. but then I convince myself I'm overreacting. I don't even know how to hang out with my friends without doing drugs anymore. Once college starts up it'll be easier because I only have a few friends there as it is and will be able to make more who don't do drugs easily. but man I love my friends here at home, I just don't know if I can be around them anymore. -- Posted by Spice at 12:31 am on Dec. 24, 2008 It's still a drug, it can be as serious as any other. You can have a problem with it, and you certainly are not stupid for thinking that you have. In fact, it's the opposite that you've recognised the fact imo. Making new friends is far easier than what would happen if you carried on this path -- just think that. -- Posted by Style Out at 12:31 am on Dec. 24, 2008 wow i was going to stop at the beginning of this and look up dxm because it sounded so good at first.  church is a good place to go though definitely, especially if your church has some activities you can really get yourself involved in. as for me relating, i have never done a drug in my life.  the most alcohol i ever had was a sip, but i still have trouble going to school and i'm failing more than half my classes.  i pretty much grew tired of going to school and doing homework everyday and instead reached for enlightenment.  it feels so good because i can finally get the sleep i need to do something else i love, dancing.  in addition i feel like i can almost never be sad unless i am tired, in which case i am always sad.  the main problem with that is that my skipping school has gotten my family upset and now the law is involved.  as numb as i've grown, i can't help it every once in a while to notice how much im messing up my future and to realize that if i can't even wake up for school now, what am i going to do when i have to wake up to make a living for myself?  just like you've been making petty excuses to justify using your drug i've been making petty excuses to justify not being in school. i'm pretty new to church, and my leader always tells me to be prophetic, and god will have to honor my word and make it happen.  so the last week of vacation i am going to have my body adjust to a schedule of going to sleep early enough that i wont even need an alarm clock to wake up on time, and i promised to god and to myself that i will attend every single one of my classes.  when i do this i will still be able to dance, go to church, live with my father and everything will be OK.  the greatest thing is that my church really does care about me, and all its members have each other's back.  i have people's numbers that i can speak to no matter what, and they will support me because having found god they can understand me the most. god bless you, you will make it through this. -- Posted by Xusk at 6:45 am on Dec. 24, 2008 Lay off the DXM, that stuff really screws with your mind. 6+ month break from all drugs seems like a great idea to me, start thinking clearer and realise how ridiculous you look and probably even realising some delusional thoughts that you may have made up in your head. After glows can linger("Staying in the high") and will only keep bringing negatives.   The brains a very powerful thing on it's own and then add foreign chemicals to it and it can do miracles or tragedies. DXM being a dissociative, it really does disconnect you. I for one have only had mild hallucinations at extremely outrageous doses(which was the reason I wanted to try DXM in the first place), but the mental state that it induces is quite enlightening. It helps me think, analaysis and get to the core of my thoughts when manipulated right or just really screws with my emotions when I fail to take it in the right situation. But to the disconnection, it shifts my personality and who I am in general with every experience leaving me alittle different then before. Like soul healing really, turning into full blown ego loss over long periods of use. BTW, DXM will always be OTC(it's pretty known that people, generally kids, get high off DXM, it just has been easier to spread thanks to the internet). That along with just about any drug will be around, when there's a demand. Live LIFE, while getting high is the only way, drugs are forever. So moderation is key because abuse is fun but never turns out to be. If you can do without, then more power to you but once it starts eating your brain away failure is inevitable for most. Why? Because getting high is just that damn good. Whatever you do, you need to come at it with a different  and smarter approach. -- Posted by RedNoir at 11:30 am on Dec. 24, 2008 You need to stop. I know you can do it. You know you can do it. Famous Rapper Pimp-C died of his addiction to syrup. It will kill you if you don't stop. It will also cause sever liver damage. -- Posted by greatescape at 12:45 pm on Dec. 24, 2008 Wow.... I've seen you around this forum a lot before but I really had no idea you were going through all this.  I just want you to know that if you ever need anyone to talk to about this, I would be more than happy to do whatever I can. In any case, I think it sounds like you really have the right attitude about this.  Yeah...DXM isn't a hard drug and it's easy to keep telling yourself that you don't have a problem, but like you said, you kind of get to a point in your life where you have to step back and ask yourself if it's all really worth it.   You know you can do better than this, and you know how much it's been affecting you.  I completely agree that it's time to completely stop.  You've got too much else going for you to let this mess up your life in the long run. Coming from someone whose been through rehab...I think the best thing to do is to have a plan, and to have goals.  I'm not saying that it's really necessary to even get into any type of rehab program if you don't think that's what would work best for you.  But know exactly what you want to do, how you want to do it, and why.  Writing it down (like you did) is a great start.  It's going to get hard when you really want to use again, and you begin to forget why you even wanted to quit in the first place.  It's extremely helpful to be able to go back and look at the reasons in writing to refresh your memory. Also, I think cutting out the other drug use is a pretty good idea.  While I was getting off oc and blow I drastically cut back on the amount of weed I was smoking, as well as how much I drank.  I think it really helped to keep me away from wanting to use even more. Finally, I want to say that I don't think that picking up religion again to help get you through this is stupid at all.  Actually...to be honest, I really started getting into religion and philosophy after getting cleaned up.  I never really singled out any one religion to follow, but I started reading a lot of philosophy, and going to church just to be a part of a community.  It probably sounds stupid to other people...but I guess it just helps to be able to know that we have a purpose or some sort of meaning behind our existence.  There is nothing wrong with wanting that in your life. Anyways, like I said, I think you've really got the right attitude about this and you can for sure do it.  You seem intelligent, and you know what you want.  I know it's not easy, but you can do it. :) -- Posted by PewPew at 3:32 pm on Dec. 24, 2008 Why do you think that without God you have no reason to stop? You just said the reasons why you want to stop, so stop for those reasons and yourself. -- Posted by TheAnswers at 3:54 pm on Dec. 24, 2008 its perfectly fine to experiment with your spirituality, if christianity doesnt work try some other religions too, bhuddism is a great one for me. getting bad grades isnt the end of the world, ive taken drugs for a long time, dropped out / got kicked out of school when i was 14 / 15 after being an A student, now i run my own recording label ive found over many years that, for me, marijuana is ok it helps me sleep and has little or no side effects other than the risk of getting arrested, which is relatively low. get off the DXM, i live in new zealand where BZP was legal until about 6 months ago, and took bzp for 3 weeks straight after being on it every now and then. the buzz is good but the side effects arent worth it, stick to pot. -- Posted by MourningAir at 3:58 pm on Dec. 24, 2008 Thanks guys. I think it'd be in my best interest to go to rehab but I know if I do I will be giving up my one opportunity to go to college (I'm there on scholarships and grants, my family is pretty "poor"). I just have to tough this out and hopefully get in touch with a church soon so that I have some kind of support system. I also know that say I did go into a rehab program, what's to keep me from doing dxm again when I get back out? Sure I'll be able to quit while I'm there because I won't be around it but what happens when I get out into the real world and am faced with seeing cough syrup every time I go to a pharmacy or even the dollar store?? It's best I do this now with the threat omnipresent. And PewPew, I do need God. Without Him, there is no reason for me to do good for myself. Yes I know I'm slowly killing myself, but what's it matter to me? If God isn't real, why shouldn't I just indulge in destructive behavior now if it feels good? Sure school is important but when it comes down to it, nothing so far has meant enough to me to stop. Even being told to stop by the man I love didn't mean anything to me. Even being told by my mother, weeping and begging me to quit doing this, meant nothing to me. It meant enough to inspire me to tears but not enough for me to continue not using. And now that my faith in God is renewed, how could I deny Him and all the good He wants for me? -- Posted by Micus at 7:30 pm on Dec. 24, 2008 That's rough... I did DXM a couple times back in high school to try it. I never tripped that hard (two second plateaus and a third), so I don't really know the extent of the pleasure you're talking about. But, I do know the feeling of addiction, and the qualms that come with trying to fight it. The thing is, addictions aren't just based around activities. An addiction becomes what it is once it begins taking hold of your lifestyle. Your priorities, activities, social networks and aspirations become focused around the thing you can't get enough of. If it were a matter of just cutting out the drug use, it would be easy. But we've conditioned ourselves to keep an eye out in all aspects of life for the thing we want. I am intrigued by this fiancee... are you two going to get back together once he gets out? Perhaps his attempt at sobriety can help you in your resistance to the drug also. Quit together!! Remember, there was life before DXM. Billions of people function in their daily lives without the need of the chemical. You might have to lose a few friends along the way... but in the process imagine all the sober friends you'll eventually meet! While I think it's a good idea introducing a change in your lifestyle (going to church and whatnot), I feel you might be going about it the wrong way... I don't want to demean what you're trying to do, but I personally feel that you're going about it the wrong way. Signing on to Jesus in attempts to get off of a drug may work, in some respects but unless you ACTUALLY want to quit the DRUG, you may be disappointed. Have you considered group therapy sessions, like AA or NA? --- There's another important thing... it's good that you're realizing there is a problem. In asking "am I an addict?" you're already a step farther than someone even farther off the wagon. A true addict may not even realize, or refuse to aknowledge there is a problem. As you can see some of the consequences of your habit, you are one step closer to recovery. You can PM me if you want, I may not be much help... good luck with everything, and happy holidays. (speaking of holidays, there's nothing like a good old new years resolution to kick a habit! ) -- Posted by LoveKay at 10:58 pm on Dec. 24, 2008 Wow, your post is intense. I don't even know where to begin. I've done DXM before. The trips were amazing, although so many people told me it would fuck my world up. And they were right because now I have proof--and that is you. People around me freaked if they found out I popped them dex pills, and pretty much looked down upon me. It's like they thought less of me. I couldn't understand this then because I could be doing any other drug, and it would be better than doing DXM. They could be telling me the drug is dangerous while being high or tripping on shrooms. I remember the feeling I had when coming down. That feeling was awful. All I wanted was more and more and more. And then I was sober, and I felt itchy and jittery and not like myself. So I took more DXM when I could... until my source got busted. So I can kind of in a way relate to you with the use of dex, but it never got that intense for me. My use only lasted for a few months. Forgetting the use of it even then was difficult. Gosh, that shit in high doses is very addictive! I can only imagine what you feel like now after abusing this drug in such high doses for such a long period of time. That is so awful. I'm glad you were able to find a reason to stop using DXM. It doesn't matter what that reason is as long as you have one, and believing in God is not stupid or pathetic at all. Having faith gives many people hope for many things. I hope that by having faith in God, you will get through this. I think it is a good idea to go to rehab. I mean, you could take the grants and scholarships, and go to college, but what if you relapsed? You would fail your classes again, and probably lose your financial aid. In your case, if I were you, I would do anything and everything possible to help stop the use. Go to rehab, seek support from family and friends. In order to quit using drugs, the biggest thing you will have to do is change your life. Change your friends. If you want to stop taking drugs, you won't be able to do so if you keep your same old friends who do those drugs. You will need to find a new group of friends who will be supportive and will not have a negative influence on you. You've already come a long way by admitting there is a problem. I know you said that sometimes you just don't believe it, and think it's just all in your head that you have a problem, but you DO have a problem with abusing drugs. No matter what that drug is and no matter what the dose you take is. You need to stop. You need to continue on with your life, the life everybody else has--the sober one. You can go far in life, and if you can conquer this, you can conquer anything else you set out to do. Just remember that you had a life before dex, before any kind of drug. Sure, you were an isolated person as you said, but things have changed. You have changed. And by qutting drugs, you will not return to this person you don't like so much. You will be different; you will be better. But there was a life before DXM. And you can find that life again. I wish you the best of luck. -- Posted by Skip at 9:02 am on Dec. 25, 2008 drugs brought me closer to God too.  It's a great thing.  You shouldn't rely on a drug to feel happy though.  If you enjoy the dxm experience then why not do it just once in a while so you can get more out of the experience instead of burning out on it?  There's a lot of nice things that come with the experience yes but in the end you just have to remember that it is a drug and it is not natural, and most of all you do not need it (for any of the reasons you listed) -- Posted by LostinTranslation00 at 9:07 am on Dec. 25, 2008 Quote: from MourningAir at 12:04 am on Dec. 24, 2008 They say that calling yourself "addicted" is a self-fulfilling prophecy. At the same time, what good is lying to yourself and feeding into your own delusions? This is going to be long so just start reading at the bold part if you don't want to read it all. I started using dxm about a year and a half ago. mostly because I had heard you could trip off of it and lsd and shrooms were not readily available in my hometown. I was bored of weed and alcohol and didn't really enjoy pills much. What I found was a drug that: 1) eliminated my social anxiety (more than benzos even) 2) eliminated hunger (allowing me to lose weight very easily) 3) made me feel happy (like I had the potential to do anything and was a very unique and intelligent individual) 4) gave me confidence 5) allowed me to bring my ideas to life (I was able to actually see whatever I thought up - it's like being a god) and various other things I could go on and on about. Even when I did get my hands on lsd, shrooms, ecstasy, etc, I found that these substances alone were nothing next to dxm. Instead I began to use them in combination with it, not really giving a crap about the consequences. At first I only used dxm at low doses and only about once a month. Eight months ago I dosed 600mg for the first time. I was amazed, I started using every day. I binged and binged and my behavior became extremely bizarre. Seriously, an example: I started talking to this guy I met on a dxm forum. We talked for like 2 weeks and then he hopped on a bus and came down to live with me in my car. I got kicked out of the house, had my car taken away, and he and I lived out in the woods in a tent for a few days until he asked me to marry him and we moved in with his dad back in Michigan. Yep, that's right. I knew this guy for about 4 weeks and I moved to a different state with him. We did dxm almost daily. the only breaks were when we'd sleep for 15+ hours then get up and do it again. I don't regret doing it because we're still engaged, he is my soulmate, but he is also in a christian rehab center in a program for 13 months (he has been abusing dxm for 4 years now). When he first left for the program, I pretty much told him to go fuck himself. I was upset because I'm not allowed contact with him until it's been six months. It's been almost four months. I was able to keep from doing dxm for about 3 weeks because I lost my ID and was too depressed (from being away from him) to walk the 45 minutes to steal some cough syrup from Wal-mart. I failed half of my classes (prior to this year I had been an all A student in AP classes), lost many of my friends who were freaked out by my behavior. I have problems urinating, I'm even more anxious now than I was before I started abusing dxm, my word recall is awful, my short term memory is shot. I was put on SSRIs a few weeks ago because I thought the idea of serotonin syndrome (which I have experienced mildly before) would deter me from using anymore. A week ago I took 600mg and had an awesome trip. A few days ago I took 900mg and nearly died. I could barely see, I couldn't remember anything (even my long term memory was nonexistent), I just kept crying because I realized I was afraid of dying and I was so sad because of all the pain I've put my family through. I'm not going to use any substances anymore, I decided. because even by using weed (which I have smoked on a daily basis for about 3 years), all it reminds me of is "Wow this would be great with some dxm." And I also realized I haven't been happy since I stopped believing in God 7 years or so ago. I'm going to start attending church. I know a lot of you will say I'm weak because I need God to stop especially since dxm's physical addictiveness has yet to be determined. The thing is, without Him, I have no reason to stop. Yes I hate hurting my family but I justify it to myself - that they just don't understand, that moderate use is OK. It's obvious though that I cannot just use dxm, I have shown myself this time and time again. I just don't care about myself at all. All I care about is doing more. It's been like four days and I feel HORRIBLE. The thought of never doing dxm again makes me want to die, makes me feel like I will never again know any joy the world has to offer. And on top of this, all my friends use drugs and are atheists and I'm terrified of how they're going to take this. I need some encouraging words... or someone's experiences to relate to... or something. Also I am embarrassed to post this but I think by putting it on here it might encourage me to stick with this... One thing I find very hard, I repeat VERY hard to believe about your story is that you actually prefer DXM over LSD or mushrooms. That's like saying Id rather have the 5 dollar bill instead of the 100 dollar bill. Having been very experienced with all three, (900 mg dxm high dose, strip of LSD (10 hits), quarter of psilocybin)I've got to say DXM is kiddie stuff compared to LSD or psilocybin (mushrooms). I am having a hard time believing you actually did legit LSD or shrooms, because you would have moved on from DXM a long time ago. DXM is the kiddie stuff you do, and it really is bad for you in the long term. LSD and shrooms are FAR safer if you can take them resonsibly. -- Posted by Skip at 9:09 am on Dec. 25, 2008 ur gonna do great mourning best of luck -- Posted by yourbrainonsaget at 9:24 am on Dec. 25, 2008 Quote: from LostinTranslation00 at 12:07 pm on Dec. 25, 2008 One thing I find very hard, I repeat VERY hard to believe about your story is that you actually prefer DXM over LSD or mushrooms. That's like saying Id rather have the 5 dollar bill instead of the 100 dollar bill. Having been very experienced with all three, (900 mg dxm high dose, strip of LSD (10 hits), quarter of psilocybin)I've got to say DXM is kiddie stuff compared to LSD or psilocybin (mushrooms). I am having a hard time believing you actually did legit LSD or shrooms, because you would have moved on from DXM a long time ago. DXM is the kiddie stuff you do, and it really is bad for you in the long term. LSD and shrooms are FAR safer if you can take them resonsibly. Yea, they are far safer drugs, but with DXM everyone reacts differently, I mean everyone.   Brain chemistry is really a factor in it.  Some people get full blown, awe-inspiring experiences, while others just don't really break through.  Its not just a "kiddie" drug for everyone -- Posted by Vicodin at 9:30 am on Dec. 25, 2008 Kels kels kels. You are one the coolest kids ever. I know you can do it. You're one tough little shit. From day one I thought you were hardcore enough to face anything, including this. Facing up to it and really admitting it takes a lot, and you did it. I honestly believe you can get through this. No matter what you're still a cool kid in my book. I know what it's like to try to kick an addiction, I, however, don't have enough courage to actually stop at the moment. I'm in awe that you have that courage. Find whatever it takes for you to have an amazing life, kid. You deserve it. -- Posted by piejesu at 3:56 pm on Dec. 25, 2008 Quote: from LostinTranslation00 at 9:07 am on Dec. 25, 2008 Quote: from MourningAir at 12:04 am on Dec. 24, 2008 They say that calling yourself "addicted" is a self-fulfilling prophecy. At the same time, what good is lying to yourself and feeding into your own delusions?    This is going to be long so just start reading at the bold part if you don't want to read it all.    I started using dxm about a year and a half ago. mostly because I had heard you could trip off of it and lsd and shrooms were not readily available in my hometown. I was bored of weed and alcohol and didn't really enjoy pills much. What I found was a drug that:    1) eliminated my social anxiety (more than benzos even)    2) eliminated hunger (allowing me to lose weight very easily)    3) made me feel happy (like I had the potential to do anything and was a very unique and intelligent individual)    4) gave me confidence    5) allowed me to bring my ideas to life (I was able to actually see whatever I thought up - it's like being a god)    and various other things I could go on and on about. Even when I did get my hands on lsd, shrooms, ecstasy, etc, I found that these substances alone were nothing next to dxm. Instead I began to use them in combination with it, not really giving a crap about the consequences.    At first I only used dxm at low doses and only about once a month. Eight months ago I dosed 600mg for the first time. I was amazed, I started using every day. I binged and binged and my behavior became extremely bizarre. Seriously, an example:    I started talking to this guy I met on a dxm forum. We talked for like 2 weeks and then he hopped on a bus and came down to live with me in my car. I got kicked out of the house, had my car taken away, and he and I lived out in the woods in a tent for a few days until he asked me to marry him and we moved in with his dad back in Michigan. Yep, that's right. I knew this guy for about 4 weeks and I moved to a different state with him. We did dxm almost daily. the only breaks were when we'd sleep for 15+ hours then get up and do it again.    I don't regret doing it because we're still engaged, he is my soulmate, but he is also in a christian rehab center in a program for 13 months (he has been abusing dxm for 4 years now).    When he first left for the program, I pretty much told him to go fuck himself. I was upset because I'm not allowed contact with him until it's been six months. It's been almost four months.    I was able to keep from doing dxm for about 3 weeks because I lost my ID and was too depressed (from being away from him) to walk the 45 minutes to steal some cough syrup from Wal-mart. I failed half of my classes (prior to this year I had been an all A student in AP classes), lost many of my friends who were freaked out by my behavior. I have problems urinating, I'm even more anxious now than I was before I started abusing dxm, my word recall is awful, my short term memory is shot.    I was put on SSRIs a few weeks ago because I thought the idea of serotonin syndrome (which I have experienced mildly before) would deter me from using anymore. A week ago I took 600mg and had an awesome trip. A few days ago I took 900mg and nearly died. I could barely see, I couldn't remember anything (even my long term memory was nonexistent), I just kept crying because I realized I was afraid of dying and I was so sad because of all the pain I've put my family through.    I'm not going to use any substances anymore, I decided. because even by using weed (which I have smoked on a daily basis for about 3 years), all it reminds me of is "Wow this would be great with some dxm." And I also realized I haven't been happy since I stopped believing in God 7 years or so ago. I'm going to start attending church.    I know a lot of you will say I'm weak because I need God to stop especially since dxm's physical addictiveness has yet to be determined. The thing is, without Him, I have no reason to stop. Yes I hate hurting my family but I justify it to myself - that they just don't understand, that moderate use is OK. It's obvious though that I cannot just use dxm, I have shown myself this time and time again. I just don't care about myself at all. All I care about is doing more.    It's been like four days and I feel HORRIBLE. The thought of never doing dxm again makes me want to die, makes me feel like I will never again know any joy the world has to offer. And on top of this, all my friends use drugs and are atheists and I'm terrified of how they're going to take this.    I need some encouraging words... or someone's experiences to relate to... or something.    Also I am embarrassed to post this but I think by putting it on here it might encourage me to stick with this... One thing I find very hard, I repeat VERY hard to believe about your story is that you actually prefer DXM over LSD or mushrooms. That's like saying Id rather have the 5 dollar bill instead of the 100 dollar bill. Having been very experienced with all three, (900 mg dxm high dose, strip of LSD (10 hits), quarter of psilocybin)I've got to say DXM is kiddie stuff compared to LSD or psilocybin (mushrooms). I am having a hard time believing you actually did legit LSD or shrooms, because you would have moved on from DXM a long time ago. DXM is the kiddie stuff you do, and it really is bad for you in the long term. LSD and shrooms are FAR safer if you can take them resonsibly. You know, being an elitist in this subject is just...total and utter fail. A "kiddie" drug? You're such a tool, I'm sorry, but it's not at all about classifying drugs into "big grown up" drugs and into "kiddie" drug categories. You don't need to justify a preference for something by it being a "big hardcore drug". It's about personal tastes and what matches them. Different drugs offer different things, some people are addicted to nicotine and caffeine but they are obviously not as powerful as your "holy grail" drugs LSD and Mushrooms. Some people are just "different" my friend, you don't need to attempt to discredit them or their experiences to reinforce your narrow-minded mainstream tastes. I have used LSD/Mescaline/2C-I/Mushrooms/Ecstasy/Coke/Morphine/Meth and many many others extensively from different sources all across the country, quite a few of them being classified as traditionally hardcore addictive drugs, and haven't found a single instance of one of those 'hardcore' drugs holding a match against DXM in regards to my personal tastes, and that is me being %100 serious. Yes, LSD, and Mushrooms are mighty powerful....but I found them to be...not at all what I was looking for, they offer one thing, DXM offers another, and I prefered the latter by the nth degree, And seriously....DXM is VERY powerful, calling it a kiddie drug is just silly, a 4th plateau experience will knock you on your ass, and that's coming from somebody that's used salvia. I think a heavy 2nd plateau dose was my favorite place, that's where I was most capable of enjoying it while interacting with the outer world in a somewhat normal fashion. -- Posted by piejesu at 4:01 pm on Dec. 25, 2008 Quote: from yourbrainonsaget at 9:24 am on Dec. 25, 2008 Quote: from LostinTranslation00 at 12:07 pm on Dec. 25, 2008 One thing I find very hard, I repeat VERY hard to believe about your story is that you actually prefer DXM over LSD or mushrooms. That's like saying Id rather have the 5 dollar bill instead of the 100 dollar bill. Having been very experienced with all three, (900 mg dxm high dose, strip of LSD (10 hits), quarter of psilocybin)I've got to say DXM is kiddie stuff compared to LSD or psilocybin (mushrooms). I am having a hard time believing you actually did legit LSD or shrooms, because you would have moved on from DXM a long time ago. DXM is the kiddie stuff you do, and it really is bad for you in the long term. LSD and shrooms are FAR safer if you can take them resonsibly. Yea, they are far safer drugs, but with DXM everyone reacts differently, I mean everyone. Brain chemistry is really a factor in it. Some people get full blown, awe-inspiring experiences, while others just don't really break through. Its not just a "kiddie" drug for everyone Yes, yes, what you said is very important too. It is very much so an important factor in it. -- Posted by MourningAir at 5:20 pm on Dec. 25, 2008 Quote: from LostinTranslation00 at 12:07 pm on Dec. 25, 2008 One thing I find very hard, I repeat VERY hard to believe about your story is that you actually prefer DXM over LSD or mushrooms. That's like saying Id rather have the 5 dollar bill instead of the 100 dollar bill. Having been very experienced with all three, (900 mg dxm high dose, strip of LSD (10 hits), quarter of psilocybin)I've got to say DXM is kiddie stuff compared to LSD or psilocybin (mushrooms). I am having a hard time believing you actually did legit LSD or shrooms, because you would have moved on from DXM a long time ago. DXM is the kiddie stuff you do, and it really is bad for you in the long term. LSD and shrooms are FAR safer if you can take them resonsibly. Yep you're right dude. i spent an hour typing up this long ass post as a complete and total joke. UMMM how does that make any sense? Not to mention how in-depth I go about it all. I'm not saying I didn't enjoy my LSD trips, just that they did not give me what dxm did. Imo dxm is a drug for the morbid. Everything about it was morbid. tripping balls completely dissociated from myself seeing demons flying about me and not feeling any fear from it. When you're on acid, the slightest change in your emotion can cripple you. When I'm hallucinating on dxm, I acknowledge that something is scary but I ultimately do not feel any fear because it all remains apart from myself. -- Posted by MourningAir at 5:39 pm on Dec. 25, 2008 But yeah I do think rehab is a good idea however I would be very ashamed to give up my college education for it. I think I will at least try this next quarter on my own and if I just cannot do it, well I guess then I have no choice but to check myself in somewhere. I don't want to disappoint my family... I seriously appreciate everything you guys have said though. I know I can handle a lot of things but I also can't help but feel that i am weak to have let it all come to this. it's funny because i don't ever think that of others who have addictions - i never consider them weak, just unfortunate. looking back on it I'm a textbook example of someone who falls prey to this kind of stuff. came from a "broken" home, poor, relatively intelligent and the latter is perhaps why I thought i could abuse so many drugs and get away with it. I thought i was invincible. The thing with dxm, as is apparent in lostintranslation's post is how it's not taken seriously at all. You know, there was a time when cocaine and some opiates could be found in OTC medications... Just because dxm is found in cough medicine does not mean it's a "kiddie" drug. it's the single most powerful drug I've ever used (and I've used lsd [multiple times of doing two hits at once], shrooms, coke, x, etc etc). Not taking it very seriously IMO is a huge problem in our society. I didn't ever think I could have a problem with dxm... because FFS it's found in cough syrup (although there is dxm powder). With other drugs, I was aware that you could abuse them to the point of screwing up your life and so i exercised at least some degree of caution. but anyway to Micus: I am definitely waiting for my fiancee. i personally feel that God made us for one another. no one in my life is religious or even close to it, if it weren't for he and I being together, i could possibly never have been exposed to God's word. because not in years have i even associated with religious people or anyone with the smallest bit of faith. All I know though is that i have to wait for him to finish his program, I've got to wait the 13 months no matter how hard it is. because if he were to just to sign himself out at this time and come back to me, I know we'd start using together again. I think we both need to get better without each other and only then can we live good lives. -- Posted by jakelong at 7:00 pm on Dec. 25, 2008 MA, Well I don't think you're weak at all. I think you're pretty strong. I know a lot of ppl on drugs and other stuff. Its really really tough to admit the problem and get out of it. Its even harder to stay out of it. I was on booze myself for a while. I say you keep it up and if you need somebody to listen Im sure you got a lot of LW to help. But if you feel down and want to talk you can PM me if you want. Anyway you're on the right track and I think its awesome and whatever you do to stay cool and stay out of the addiction is cool by me. Im catholic myself anway so its cool by me that you seek the help of God. He's the best help you can get really. One thing I know: the hardest thing is admitting you need help. The thing that stops most ppl is we feel ashamed of it and we feel like shit about needing help. But the fact is WE ALL NEED HELP! All of us even the guys who neve been addicted to anything (im not sure they even exist really). But we all need ppl to help through the tough shit in life. So thats why its important to feel that God can help because He's the only one who can be your friend even when you feel nooby is even yourself. Anyway keep up the good stuff and Im behind you all the way.   -- Posted by jakelong at 7:04 pm on Dec. 25, 2008 Quote: from MourningAir at 5:39 pm on Dec. 25, 2008 But yeah I do think rehab is a good idea however I would be very ashamed to give up my college education for it. No its not really "giving up" your education. Its more like taking a litle sick leave. Like taking a break to care care of yourself. In fact thats what you can tell ppl if you really want to and don't want to say too much. If they ask more detail then you decide how much they want to know or switch topics. But really its no shame. If other ppl want to make you fel ashame they idiots and forget them/ But anyone who knows the real deal knows its no shame. Its a great thing. -- Posted by piejesu at 7:52 pm on Dec. 25, 2008 Jakelong, "There is something wrong about the man who wants help. There is somewhere a deep defect, a want, in brief, a need, a crying need, somewhere about that man. " Herman Melville Pages: 1 2  Next