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-- Posted by The Last Magister at 9:05 pm on Jan. 1, 2009

3rd world dictators, militant fascist parties, and the like, do not respond to diplomacy? Time and time again, when despots have been in power and any form of negotiation has been initiated it has either had no effect or escalated the situation further.

Why? Because their control comes from direct power and authority, and the only thing they respond to is-direct power and authority.

For instance, the PLO and other terrorist groups. They have been negotiated with multiple times, even given arms to create ceasefires(oh the irony), land, and money, yet has it stopped them in the slightest? No.

Perhaps lets backtrack.

Before World War Two. Hitler, Nazi Germany, did granting them land pacify them in the slightest? Nein. The Blitzkrieg followed shortly after.

Or perhaps look at when forces such as the UN and NATO try to act. Darfur? Their presence made the situation even worse, and they couldn't even act unless they were attacked, and that was to be only in self defense. More lives would've been saved if they weren't involved!

So the next time someone tries to say that there just needs to be better communication with the Middle East, tell them to shove it up their asses. They don't want to negotiate. They don't want their underlying problems addressed, that's how they get their power base, that's how they get what they want. The only thing these people respond to is brute force.


-- Posted by OodleNoodle at 9:06 pm on Jan. 1, 2009

Yeah, I know. Sadly.


-- Posted by adriannaa at 9:06 pm on Jan. 1, 2009

lawl..


-- Posted by Baron Samedi at 9:07 pm on Jan. 1, 2009

It's like I always say, nuke the Middle East and build a theme park in it's place.


-- Posted by blufindr at 9:07 pm on Jan. 1, 2009

So let's nuke them and get that over and done with already


-- Posted by zamrambo at 9:07 pm on Jan. 1, 2009

But I agree with TLM. They don't want us there.


-- Posted by whoisabs at 9:07 pm on Jan. 1, 2009

True, the zionists don't care about diplomacy, only about the genocide of the semitic peoples.


-- Posted by Bearsy at 9:07 pm on Jan. 1, 2009

Hussein admitted he didn't have no WMD's but nobody listened


-- Posted by TBMP at 9:08 pm on Jan. 1, 2009

you are an insensitive, ignorant, stereotyping right winger.

how stereotypical.

when people say we need better communication with the middle east,
they (the smart ones anyway) mean so it never gets to this point again

not everything is meant in the short term my friend.


-- Posted by Nikki599 at 9:08 pm on Jan. 1, 2009

wow so right


-- Posted by bloodyXkisses at 9:08 pm on Jan. 1, 2009

Umm..


-- Posted by The Last Magister at 9:09 pm on Jan. 1, 2009

Quote: from TBMP at 11:08 pm on Jan. 1, 2009


you are an insensitive, ignorant, stereotyping right winger.

how stereotypical.

when people say we need better communication with the middle east,
they (the smart ones anyway) mean so it never gets to this point again

not everything is meant in the short term my friend.



Again, when has communication ever successfully worked. Give me an example. They don't want to reason.


-- Posted by melodramatic at 9:09 pm on Jan. 1, 2009

AMEN. Why are we wasting millions of dollars on a lost cause?


-- Posted by oridniv at 9:23 pm on Jan. 1, 2009

this is the most uninformed piece of article i've ever read....if you truly understood the history of america and how it controls the world today you'll understand why your comments are truly hypocrite


-- Posted by The Last Magister at 9:29 pm on Jan. 1, 2009

Quote: from oridniv at 11:23 pm on Jan. 1, 2009


this is the most uninformed piece of article i've ever read....if you truly understood the history of america and how it controls the world today you'll understand why your comments are truly hypocrite

Uninformed? I'M UNINFORMED?!

You still haven't given me one good example, so until I'm given viable evidence to think otherwise-this view stands.


-- Posted by carracer at 10:00 pm on Jan. 1, 2009

Quote: from whoisabs at 9:07 pm on Jan. 1, 2009


True, the zionists don't care about diplomacy, only about the genocide of the semitic peoples.

Notice how the OP was talking about the PLO, not the israeli government.

And OP, I agree with you and it's really a shame that it has to come to that.
For some reason, there are times when negotiation is near impossible.



-- Posted by Aristocrat at 10:26 pm on Jan. 1, 2009

Where is Abs when you need him to refute these zionist elements with their lies?


-- Posted by kidd rune at 8:55 pm on Jan. 2, 2009

The Nazi Germany "Example" kind of failed because the Treaty of Versailles took 50 billion dollars from Germany and the land they invaded in Poland was previously Germany - but taken by Versailles.

So we TOOK from them and war happened.

Shitty example.

If they were given the land that was inhabited BY Germans then MAYBE the largest war ever would've been avoided.


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