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-- Posted by Aimforthehead at 8:31 am on Jan. 4, 2009

So, I've always been questioning whether it was a good call or not to buy a 9800 gx2, now i'm mad though. Let me explain...
Fall out 3 - 60 fps vsync on smooth
Oblivion - 30 to 40 fps vsync or off always choppy (wtf)
Devil May cry 4 - 150 fps and higher always, with vsync on always 60
Left 4 Dead - 60 fps but randomly to 40, very annoying.
UT3 - 30-40 (Really, WTF)

So I'm SUPER happy with performance on a lot of games, but then on others it makes me extremely mad. Any game using the unreal engine seems basically unplayable. But I play Grid, Pure, Lost planet, Dead Space, Cod4, etc. PERFECTLY. Anyone have any suggestions?


-- Posted by GoodFairy13 at 8:32 am on Jan. 4, 2009

You need to go out more?


-- Posted by SpasticTurnip at 8:34 am on Jan. 4, 2009

Quote: from GoodFairy13 at 4:32 pm on Jan. 4, 2009


You need to go out more?

I second that motion.


-- Posted by Aimforthehead at 8:35 am on Jan. 4, 2009

Quote: from SpasticTurnip at 8:34 am on Jan. 4, 2009


Quote: from GoodFairy13 at 4:32 pm on Jan. 4, 2009

You need to go out more?

I second that motion.


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-- Posted by sadnessness at 8:35 am on Jan. 4, 2009

wow complicated


-- Posted by snowcone200 at 8:36 am on Jan. 4, 2009

It's been a while since 9600's came out. If you can find two for under 175-200 get them. I'm sure you know about SLI or better yet buy one 8800gt and you will be good just on that. What ur bugdet?


-- Posted by GoodFairy13 at 8:37 am on Jan. 4, 2009

Quote: from Aimforthehead at 8:35 am on Jan. 4, 2009


Quote: from SpasticTurnip at 8:34 am on Jan. 4, 2009

Quote: from GoodFairy13 at 4:32 pm on Jan. 4, 2009

You need to go out more?
 
 I second that motion.


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I meant just off the games console.


-- Posted by Aimforthehead at 8:38 am on Jan. 4, 2009

Well I'm not -buying- any new gpu's, I'm sticking with the 9800 gx2 but I'm positive there's a way to tweak it and improve performance, mostly because every benchmark I've seen says ut3 is supposed to be getting 130 fps, not 40.


-- Posted by snowcone200 at 8:39 am on Jan. 4, 2009

I meant 9800's. But um wat ur bugdet? Also don't forget theres overclocking which for new cards isn't dangerous most shut off before getting to hot. Also RAM, a bad comp can bottleneck a uber card to


-- Posted by DannoJay at 8:40 am on Jan. 4, 2009

Quote: from Aimforthehead at 4:31 pm on Jan. 4, 2009


So, I've always been questioning whether it was a good call or not to buy a 9800 gx2, now i'm mad though. Let me explain...
Fall out 3 - 60 fps vsync on smooth
Oblivion - 30 to 40 fps vsync or off always choppy (wtf)
Devil May cry 4 - 150 fps and higher always, with vsync on always 60
Left 4 Dead - 60 fps but randomly to 40, very annoying.
UT3 - 30-40 (Really, WTF)

So I'm SUPER happy with performance on a lot of games, but then on others it makes me extremely mad. Any game using the unreal engine seems basically unplayable. But I play Grid, Pure, Lost planet, Dead Space, Cod4, etc. PERFECTLY. Anyone have any suggestions?



its sad how you know the fps rate


-- Posted by Aimforthehead at 8:41 am on Jan. 4, 2009

That might be it, i was thinking..except the rest of my comp is pretty fancy to. 4 gigs ram, quad core 6600 (oced to 3.0)
And already oced video card :( I'll try using stock settings.


-- Posted by Darkane at 8:43 am on Jan. 4, 2009

Do you have the latest drivers? If so you could try the beta ones and see if you have any luck.
Also maybe it's anti-aliasing issues. Try disabling the in-game anti-aliasing and enable it from the nvidia control panel.


-- Posted by snowcone200 at 8:44 am on Jan. 4, 2009

If your cards are already oc'd right now. The last free/cheap things you can try is to clean,defrag ur comp. Oc the cards even more.

Your comp sounds good, maybe it the cards holding ur comp back lol


-- Posted by snowcone200 at 8:47 am on Jan. 4, 2009

yeah don't forget drivers, I use to own a 512 8800GT evga superclock, it gave ok fps on quake wars. Unreal engines are hard in cards. Ut2k4 engine felt so optimized. If I was u ill just oc cards more.


-- Posted by Aimforthehead at 8:48 am on Jan. 4, 2009

Quote: from Darkane at 8:43 am on Jan. 4, 2009


Do you have the latest drivers? If so you could try the beta ones and see if you have any luck.
Also maybe it's anti-aliasing issues. Try disabling the in-game anti-aliasing and enable it from the nvidia control panel.


UT3 engine games usually have AA disabled by default =/
and yeah I have the latest drivers (all beta drivers are older)
I was thinking I could move to an earlier driver. But I think there's a setting that would fix it all. Computers are annoying...


-- Posted by snowcone200 at 8:53 am on Jan. 4, 2009

If I was on a computer I'd look up tweaks and optimization for ut3 for you. I'm on my instinct so I can't do much. Don't seem much more you can do with the 9800's, u can try ocing ur Proc or RAM.


-- Posted by Aimforthehead at 8:55 am on Jan. 4, 2009

Yeah, thanks snowcone and darkane. I guess I'll tweak...some more...like I have been since i got this ridiculous card :P


-- Posted by snowcone200 at 8:57 am on Jan. 4, 2009

Yeah, think about overclocking that RAM and processor a little. The cards more to and if your on vista turn off the bells and whistles. Vista is known to bottleneck systems compared to WinXP


-- Posted by Aimforthehead at 8:58 am on Jan. 4, 2009

I am on vista...come to think....that might be my problem! DAMN


-- Posted by snowcone200 at 9:20 am on Jan. 4, 2009

lol could be. WinXP is just so nicely optimized now. That why people who are gamers often dislike it.


-- Posted by Macropiper at 2:36 am on Jan. 5, 2009

Assuming you left out some zeroes for Fallout 3 and Devil May Cry, there seems nothing wrong with those frame rates to me, assuming you are running at a reasonably high resolution. If you did not miss out the zeroes, and it really is 3 and 4 fps respectively, then that is a problem.

Using Vista might explain it, having antialiasing on in the graphics card settings might cause some problems.

Also, what screen resolution are you using?

And another afterthought, do you notice the any problems if you hide the frame rate so that you cant see what it is running at?


-- Posted by Aimforthehead at 1:38 pm on Jan. 5, 2009

Quote: from Tangaroa at 2:36 am on Jan. 5, 2009


Assuming you left out some zeroes for Fallout 3 and Devil May Cry, there seems nothing wrong with those frame rates to me, assuming you are running at a reasonably high resolution. If you did not miss out the zeroes, and it really is 3 and 4 fps respectively, then that is a problem.

Using Vista might explain it, having antialiasing on in the graphics card settings might cause some problems.

Also, what screen resolution are you using?

 

And another afterthought, do you notice the any problems if you hide the frame rate so that you cant see what it is running at?



No I meant l4d and fallout 3 have amazing performance, while older games get terrible fps. I run all these games max (changing the settings really rarely gives any increase in performance) and resolution at 1280X1024 but max res is 1680X1050.


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