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-- Posted by Mein Alias at 2:35 pm on Jan. 8, 2009

Since there's too many religions to list and be comprehensive and open-minded, I figure this is the second best. I'm quite curious to see the results based on a portion of the community labeled as intellectual, since I've always associated religion with a lack of intelligence. I'm not calling religious people stupid, but I am saying that the poor and uneducated are more liable to be religious because they have nothing more sturdy to rely on other than a higher power to guide them through their lives.


Edit: Damn poll option character limit.

Third Option: "I act according to how I believe he/she/it/they would want their creations to."

Last Option: "I act according to my own interpretations of civil behavior."


-- Posted by HuffleHaire at 2:38 pm on Jan. 8, 2009

I do not associate with any religion. I don't believe in a higher power, I believe in life. And accordingly love Biology.

I've always really liked what Frank Lloyd Wright said, "I believe in God, I just spell it Nature."


-- Posted by Mein Alias at 2:40 pm on Jan. 8, 2009

I never fancied biology. Too complicated and rather boring. However, you should watch that stance. Religious people tend to poke at the sheer immensity of biology to prove the existence of a divine.


-- Posted by Event Horizon at 2:45 pm on Jan. 8, 2009

short and sweet:
I consider myself a Pantheist
I am currently studying Buddhist thought as well


-- Posted by save the world at 2:47 pm on Jan. 8, 2009

Quote: from HuffleHaire at 11:38 pm on Jan. 8, 2009


"I believe in God, I just spell it Nature."
Pretty words.

Quote: from Mein Alias at 11:40 pm on Jan. 8, 2009


Religious people tend to poke at the sheer immensity of biology to prove the existence of a divine.
It arises from the inability to perceive an entity beyond our understanding - such as the tremendousness of nature - without trying to explain it, whatever the explanation. It arises from the arrogant conviction that something incomprehensible must automatically have a mystic ground.


-- Posted by nikki at 3:14 pm on Jan. 8, 2009

I'm a Buddhist, so I went with option two, although so far as creation is concerned, I follow the idea of evolution.


-- Posted by marshmellowman at 3:15 pm on Jan. 8, 2009

I chose the last option, because I lack a belief in a deity and I am not religious in any way whatsoever.


-- Posted by tearsinheaven at 9:27 pm on Jan. 8, 2009

I don't follow a certain religion. When I was younger, I considered myself Christian. As I've grown up, I've begun to realize that I don't believe much of what the Bible tells us, but I still believe in a God - whoever He may be.

I do not, however, govern my life according to what I believe He wants me to be. It's silly really...since, in my opinion, my God is in control of my life, my actions are what He wants them to be. I still like to be a wholesome person all-around though.


-- Posted by MelinaEll at 12:24 pm on Jan. 11, 2009

I put the last but I am actually agnostic. You should have made a choice more suitable for people who don't believe in religion but who believe in maybe something like energy instead of a god. The meaning of god has too much of a stereotypical meaning for me to ever use it. Obviously I don't like the stereotypical meaning it has acquired throughout history.

I personally think religion is illogical and man made. I do believe in science, but human beings have a lot of evolving and discovering to do. So I do what I feel improves my life, the people I love lives, and the planet. I do believe there is much to life we do not know. I also believe energy is a big part of understanding life and death and what may come afterwards, if anything.


-- Posted by fenrir at 9:26 pm on Jan. 11, 2009

You tried being too cute, which resulted with your poll coming across both pretentious and convoluted. If that was your goal all along, then you certainly succeeded.  However, to answer your question, I adhere solely to the Restoration Movement (Stone-Campbell Restoration Movement) bordering Nondenominational Christianity.


-- Posted by Mein Alias at 10:03 pm on Jan. 12, 2009

Quote: from fenrir at 9:26 pm on Jan. 11, 2009


You tried being too cute, which resulted with your poll coming across both pretentious and convoluted.  If that was your goal all along, then you certainly succeeded. However, to answer your question, I adhere solely to the Restoration Movement (Stone-Campbell Restoration Movement) bordering Nondenominational Christianity.

I was not trying to be cute or funny. If you're referring to how I noted the genders, then you're completely closed minded. I know plenty of people who think that their god is a female, others who believe their god is without form (and thus gender), and then there's the majority who believe it is a He. My intentions did not involve making other people's beliefs seem infantile.


-- Posted by fenrir at 9:35 pm on Jan. 13, 2009

Quote: from Mein Alias at 12:03 am on Jan. 13, 2009


Quote: from fenrir at 9:26 pm on Jan. 11, 2009

You tried being too cute, which resulted with your poll coming across both pretentious and convoluted. If that was your goal all along, then you certainly succeeded.  However, to answer your question, I adhere solely to the Restoration Movement (Stone-Campbell Restoration Movement) bordering Nondenominational Christianity.

I was not trying to be cute or funny. If you're referring to how I noted the genders, then you're completely closed minded. I know plenty of people who think that their god is a female, others who believe their god is without form (and thus gender), and then there's the majority who believe it is a He. My intentions did not involve making other people's beliefs seem infantile.

I say that your poll is convoluted and you imply that I'm gender biased?  You could have fleshed out more of the particulars within your OP rather than try writing Gone With the Wind within the poll margins instead.

Also, before you go and blindly assume that I'm close-minded, perhaps you should first ask what I do for a living without feeling that you know me better than I know myself.


-- Posted by omnifariam at 2:03 am on Jan. 14, 2009

Quote: from Mein Alias at 10:35 pm on Jan. 8, 2009


Since there's too many religions to list and be comprehensive and open-minded, I figure this is the second best. I'm quite curious to see the results based on a portion of the community labeled as intellectual, since I've always associated religion with a lack of intelligence. I'm not calling religious people stupid, but I am saying that the poor and uneducated are more liable to be religious because they have nothing more sturdy to rely on other than a higher power to guide them through their lives.
Quite true about the poor and the uneducated.

Fenrir, what do you do for a living? Just curious.


-- Posted by sophos at 1:41 am on Jan. 15, 2009

Quote: from omnifariam at 6:03 pm on Jan. 14, 2009


... Fenrir, what do you do for a living? Just curious.
Job title: scared little girl

Job description: shy from conflict, throw hissy fits, hide under mommy's apron

Performance evaluation: EXCELLENT


-- Posted by pseudo neurosis at 4:22 pm on Jan. 16, 2009

Quote: from Mein Alias at 3:35 pm on Jan. 8, 2009


Since there's too many religions to list and be comprehensive and open-minded, I figure this is the second best. I'm quite curious to see the results based on a portion of the community labeled as intellectual, since I've always associated religion with a lack of intelligence. I'm not calling religious people stupid, but I am saying that the poor and uneducated are more liable to be religious because they have nothing more sturdy to rely on other than a higher power to guide them through their lives.

I think that statement is completely ignorant.

I am a scientist and believe in the statement "science makes you believe in nothing." I think that's good, because if you do believe in something that cannot be explained in our frame of reference, your faith in whatever it is is that much stronger.

Besides, we all have morals. We all have personal rules we set for ourselves. Dogmatic rules are no different, only they are rules that groups of people adhere to, rather than each individual person's individual rules.

Do I think religion is g-r-r-r-eat? No. Many bad things have been done because of religion. But it's the ideal that appeals to people, and as long as the ideal is not forgotten, and the everyday man strives for the ideal, then the belief is fine.


-- Posted by S0LITUDE at 11:02 pm on Jan. 20, 2009

I do not have anything to do with religion. I believe that the whole whether there's a God debate or not is unnecessary and thus I don't take sides on it. I also believe that it does not matter whether there's physical proof or not because I'm not sure whether I myself exist =/


-- Posted by agerask at 11:08 pm on Jan. 20, 2009

i am roman catholic. ouch at your jab on religious people.


-- Posted by exceedinglyrare at 4:27 am on Jan. 21, 2009

Just a point, Mein Alias that "uneducated" doesn't necessarily mean "unintelligent." Your statements in this thread are rather ignorant, as has been pointed out.


-- Posted by Chava at 1:16 pm on Jan. 21, 2009

I associate with a religion. My family is Jewish and I adhere to certain laws pertaining to Kosher eating and keeping the High Holy days. Other than that though I pretty much act according to my views of civil behavior.


-- Posted by ATTI at 7:03 pm on Jan. 21, 2009

I guess it'd be most accurate to say that right now, I hesitantly believe in a divine force of the universe. What that is, what it's motives are, or what to call it, I don't claim any knowledge to.
I fluctuate, though. I struggle with my beliefs a lot; I can go from being agnostic bordering on basic Abrahamic beliefs or even closest to Catholic beliefs, as that's my only exposure to religion; to complete atheist and not even believing in a soul. There's a lot of questions that make me go back and forth. I don't know if I'll ever settle on one belief.


-- Posted by fenrir at 7:12 pm on Jan. 21, 2009

Quote: from sophos at 3:41 am on Jan. 15, 2009


Quote: from omnifariam at 6:03 pm on Jan. 14, 2009

... Fenrir, what do you do for a living? Just curious.
Job title: scared little girl

Job description: shy from conflict, throw hissy fits, hide under mommy's apron

Performance evaluation: EXCELLENT


You follow little girls?  Shame.


-- Posted by roflfuckyou at 9:58 pm on Jan. 21, 2009

I chose the last option.
I have no belief whatsoever in a deity nor do I practice or associate myself with any religion.


-- Posted by sakurag at 10:12 am on Jan. 22, 2009

I chose option one.  I believe in God.  I'm sure that is enough to suffice in the religious stand.  I consider myself to be somewhat intellectual and educated.  I don't think I'm ignorant in any means.

I studied sciences throughout high school and college and, while not a REAL science degree, I have a degree in Comp Sci.  ;)


-- Posted by LoveKay at 1:18 pm on Jan. 22, 2009

I do not affiliate myself with any religion, but believe in a super power, such as a god(s). I act according to my own standards in humanity.


-- Posted by TeaPotHead at 5:18 pm on Jan. 22, 2009

I'm a believer in energy, that its all connected and all endless
all working with and within each other bit of energy, coming and going in waves
so everything is everything and all that stuff
really i could go on for hours, but I'm at work, and shouldn't get paid to talk soul-shop
though it'd be sweet ass if i did


-- Posted by sophos at 2:01 am on Jan. 24, 2009

Quote: from fenrir at 11:12 am on Jan. 22, 2009


Quote: from sophos at 3:41 am on Jan. 15, 2009

Quote: from omnifariam at 6:03 pm on Jan. 14, 2009

... Fenrir, what do you do for a living? Just curious.
Job title: scared little girl  

Job description: shy from conflict, throw hissy fits, hide under mommy's apron  

Performance evaluation: EXCELLENT  


You follow little girls? Shame.

Glad to see that you are able to own up to it. That's progress.

If you keep this up, you'll be a scared little boy in no time.


-- Posted by neonPEG at 10:43 am on Jan. 24, 2009

I believe in something bigger or more powerful than myself but I do not live by life by rules 'it' has supposedly deemed to be the ultimate truth. Instead I think of it more like karma or a general feeling that eminates more at certain times than others. Sometimes it's present and often it doesn need to be.


-- Posted by MelinaEll at 5:35 pm on Jan. 24, 2009

Quote: from pseudo neurosis at 7:22 pm on Jan. 16, 2009Quote: from Mein Alias at 3:35 pm on Jan. 8, 2009


Since there's too many religions to list and be comprehensive and open-minded, I figure this is the second best. I'm quite curious to see the results based on a portion of the community labeled as intellectual, since I've always associated religion with a lack of intelligence. I'm not calling religious people stupid, but I am saying that the poor and uneducated are more liable to be religious because they have nothing more sturdy to rely on other than a higher power to guide them through their lives.

Actually I agree with you. All you have to do is be observant to see that a vast majority of people who are extremely religious are not as intelligent. However that is not always true as you stated. There are plenty of intelligent people who are religious.
I'm assuming that the people who find your view ignorant are just angry you would say such a thing.

Your view is in no way ignorant. It is a fair hypothesis imo. Now if you had just went on some rant about how religious people are all uneducated morons I might see some justice for their insults.

However, I have thought myself that some strict atheists are in the same boat as the "poor/uneducated" religious fundamentalists. Not as many. Yet, I dislike hearing atheists say that they KNOW there is no god. It is the same to me as religious people saying they KNOW there is a god. I personally am an agnostic atheist. Which clears up the problem for me. I am not high and mighty enough to state that I KNOW whether or not there is a god. I just don't believe there is. I believe in science, energy, and I question certain supernatural occurrences.


-- Posted by hithere at 10:49 pm on Jan. 25, 2009

I have a religion founded on the belief of a deity/deities with no guidelines regarding his/her/its/their wishes.


-- Posted by Tasbard at 10:29 am on Feb. 1, 2009

I have a religion founded on the belief of a deity/deities with certain guidelines regarding his/her/its/their wishes.

Interesting spelling you had going on there.

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