-- Posted by Gaelle at 12:58 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 Maybe I'm a bit of an extreme case, but I'm the granddaughter of the most vain woman on this planet. She was talking to me about free radicals and pore size when I was 12.   It seems to me, through observing my peers, that boys do not get that treatment. The guy who sits next to me in philosophy does not use deodorant and I'm pretty much very, very sure that he doesn't brush his teeth too frequently either. He still lives at home...does NO ONE notice? My mom starts going crazy if I don't shower right after I come home from the gym! This is so disgusting! Guys, if you are ever a father...teach your kids! Or dig out some pictures of a very out there metro sexual. Jude Law. David Beckham does the trick too.   Nobody wants to get up close and personal with very smelly people! Wait...a friend of mine (girl this time) doesn't really have proper hygiene either, but neither does her mother...so maybe in that case I understand why.   BUT he father of the other guy actually teaches classes on etiquette! It is common courtesy to brush your teeth and to shower! -- Posted by Chevelledrew at 1:00 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 I know a fellow like this. They are addicted to World of Warcraft and have phone sex with some girl from Tennessee -- Posted by Vbby at 1:00 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 I know what you mean. But some people just don't seem to have class. -- Posted by BILLYMAYSHERE at 1:01 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 Quote: from Chevelledrew at 1:00 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 I know a fellow like this. They are addicted to World of Warcraft and have phone sex with some girl from Tennessee Sounds like a real fucking winner. -- Posted by Gaelle at 1:01 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 Quote: from Chevelledrew at 1:00 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 I know a fellow like this. They are addicted to World of Warcraft and have phone sex with some girl from Tennessee Exchange WoW through Dungeons and dragons and the phone sex to him almost not knowing what a girl looks like. Now we have a deal. -- Posted by zamrambo at 1:01 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 some people dont have things like showers at their disposal as you may think.  others just dont really care. -- Posted by Chevelledrew at 1:02 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 Quote: from BILLYMAYSHERE at 1:01 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 Quote: from Chevelledrew at 1:00 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 I know a fellow like this.    They are addicted to World of Warcraft and have phone sex with some girl from Tennessee Sounds like a real fucking winner. Oh yeah, he's way cool. -- Posted by Gaelle at 1:02 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 Quote: from zamrambo at 1:01 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 some people dont have things like showers at their disposal as you may think. others just dont really care. He has a shower at his disposal. I do not live in a poor town. -- Posted by snowcone200 at 1:02 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 Theres people who are wealthy and nasty. And a lot of people don't wash their hands in public. They just leave no wash. -- Posted by medjai at 1:03 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 My grandmother bought my mother soft contact lenses the year they came out because she couldn't stand to see one of her daughter's wearing glasses. In fact, when my mother was young, and diagnosed with bad vision, my grandmother cried. I maintain perfect hygiene, but girls seem to like the smell after I work out or go for a run so I'm not worried, I always shower anyway though because I don't enjoy being sweaty. I think you're just hanging around the wrong people, but your grandmother only sounds moderately vain. My grandmother would flip out of anything was wrong with your appearance, if you were born abnormally, or if anything happened which could affect the way you look or are perceived. That said, my grandmother is one of the coolest and smartest people I've ever met, so I can overlook her vanity. Like I said though, you're probably just looking for guys in the wrong areas. -- Posted by BIKEMAN at 1:04 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 SO WHY IS IT A FATHERS JOB?......MAYBE HE'S JUST A PUNK TEENAGE DEFIANT OF HIS PARENTS AND PEERS -- Posted by Micus at 1:04 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 Quote: from snowcone200 at 4:02 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 Theres people who are wealthy and nasty. And a lot of people don't wash their hands in public. They just leave no wash. It's not like your penis is rolling around in shit. -- Posted by Hawaiiluv at 1:07 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 I agree with you completely. -- Posted by Gaelle at 1:07 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 Quote: from medjai at 1:03 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 Like I said though, you're probably just looking for guys in the wrong areas. I'd actually say all other guys in my circle of friends care more about their appearance than most girls. He's just...a very big exception to that rule.  Oddly enough, he has great style, but...he's not the best looking person and the smell just intensifies it. My boyfriend goes to the same gym as he does and he said that the guy doesn't shower afterwards, that he just slips into his clothes and rides home on the underground. -- Posted by Gaelle at 1:09 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 Quote: from BIKEMAN at 1:04 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 SO WHY IS IT A FATHERS JOB?......MAYBE HE'S JUST A PUNK TEENAGE DEFIANT OF HIS PARENTS AND PEERS Trust me, I know a lot of those punk deviants. and I mean real punks, not the people who label themselves that way. --->Punk died the day the first kid said, "Punk is not dead." On them it's cool, they have a life, they have their principles. However, I am absolutely certain...that each and everyone of them showers and uses deodorant. They may be defiant, but they themselves do not feel comfortable like that. They do a lot of other bullshit, but not that! -- Posted by HuffleHaire at 1:15 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 My mother's mother doesn't usually say much. But when I shaved my head, she was a bit distressed. My dad's mom thought it was kickass. Other than that, I don't smell or anything..