Pages: 1 2  Next -- Posted by sicosys at 4:57 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Its a made up "sickness" to describe someone who is sad, and almost by labeling them as depressed, makes them more depressed? Maybe not the right way to look at it, but to me its just someone going through a hard time, unable to see the light at the end of the tunnel. And depression pills what are they made of? Just a lot of serotonin to make you happy or wut? -- Posted by Aliboo at 4:58 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 No its not fake. -- Posted by Tasbard at 4:59 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Are you a troll or just an absolute douche? -- Posted by gnr90 at 4:59 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 if you knew my mom you would know it is not fake at all. -- Posted by EmoYuuki at 4:59 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 ... It's not fake fag.. It's real -- Posted by Ghost X at 4:59 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Quote: from sicosys at 7:57 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Its a made up "sickness" to describe someone who is sad, and almost by labeling them as depressed, makes them more depressed? Maybe not the right way to look at it, but to me its just someone going through a hard time, unable to see the light at the end of the tunnel. And depression pills what are they made of? Just a lot of serotonin to make you happy or wut? Thank you Tom Cruise. -- Posted by yellowsapphire at 5:00 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 No, it isn't fake. It is an actual illness. Depression is basically a chemical inbalance in the brain. If you think it should be re-classed, please contact senior doctors and make known your viewpoint, I would be interested to see their response to your claim. -- Posted by marshmellowman at 5:01 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 The DSM-IV criteria has been heavily criticised as to whether or not such conditions really exist and the psychological factor in itself. I don't doubt people can feel extremely sad or 'depressed' but if it merits a medical diagnosis is the point here. No, the pills don't contain serotonin, but instead help to increase serotonin concentration by preventing its reuptake. -- Posted by CuntFace at 5:01 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 heroin is the only antidepression that works -- Posted by iconoclast at 5:01 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Quote: from yellowsapphire at 8:00 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 No, it isn't fake. It is an actual illness. Depression is basically a chemical inbalance in the brain. If you think it should be re-classed, please contact senior doctors and make known your viewpoint, I would be interested to see their response to your claim. You're lying but telling the truth, technically. It's possible that there are changes in the brain, but this points to nothing other than "people who have changing psychological states have corresponding changes in the brain", just like someone who constantly is extremely happy would have changes in the brain. So, it's an effect, not a cause. -- Posted by Tasbard at 5:01 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Quote: from EmoYuuki at 7:59 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 ... It's not fake fag.. It's real It's funny because it's internalized homophobia. -- Posted by Parsine at 5:01 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Troll? Everyone gets sad, but those with clinical depression have a pathological, biologically-rooted tendency towards it. -- Posted by Majo at 5:01 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 It's not fake... People who are sad aren't depressed. People who are depressed are "sad" for weeks/months on end. It effects everything, it can mess with your sleeping habits and eating habits, it can even make you sore. It just doesn't go away and it makes it incredibly hard to function. I've dealt with it off and on since I was 13 and it's definitely real. I never felt worse knowing that I was depressed so I can't relate there. And each medication is different. There are ones that pump different chemicals into you while there are others that merely "poke holes in the drains" so that the chemicals that are already present in the mind can flow more freely. -- Posted by sarah is hot at 5:02 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Depression is not fake. I have 2 friends with depression. They both cant control how they feel. They have no say in the matter. And it takes over their whole lives. -- Posted by iconoclast at 5:02 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Quote: from marshmellowman at 8:01 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 The DSM-IV criteria has been heavily criticised as to whether or not such conditions really exist and the psychological factor in itself. I don't doubt people can feel extremely sad or 'depressed' but if it merits a medical diagnosis is the point here. No, the pills don't contain serotonin, but instead help to increase serotonin concentration by preventing its reuptake. Yeah. The condition is 'fake' in that it doesn't exist as a legitimate medical diagnosis, but it's very real as an emotional problem, as are all mental disorders. -- Posted by Jman19 at 5:02 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 No it's not. Have you even experienced it? -- Posted by SAMMYJS99 at 5:02 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Quote: from sicosys at 7:57 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Its a made up "sickness" to describe someone who is sad, and almost by labeling them as depressed, makes them more depressed? Maybe not the right way to look at it, but to me its just someone going through a hard time, unable to see the light at the end of the tunnel. And depression pills what are they made of? Just a lot of serotonin to make you happy or wut? IF, and that's the word here, IF you heard of 1 of your friends that he/she wanted to jump off a bridge/"cliff" to end their life because they were "depressed", and all of a sudden a few days later IT HAPPENED, what the hell would you think of then??? that depression is a lie??? Sicosys, go find out the TRUE meaning of life. -- Posted by iconoclast at 5:03 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Quote: from Parsine at 8:01 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Troll? Everyone gets sad, but those with clinical depression have a pathological, biologically-rooted tendency towards it. Troll? -- Posted by runthespread at 5:03 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Sadness isn't depression. To be sad for a while is not as severe as depression. Depression is real and is a level more drastic than the basic emotions. -- Posted by hivemind at 5:03 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Stop making statements witno facts backing them up, there is plenty of proof of depression being real, depression isnt just a case of 'being sad' people with depression have terrible self-esteem, can become issolated from society and stop eating, and in some cases attempted suicide. Also from a scientific perspective people suffering from depression have a lower Dopamine level in there Brain chemistry. -- Posted by yellowsapphire at 5:04 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Quote: from prisoner of hss at 1:01 am on Jan. 11, 2009 Quote: from yellowsapphire at 8:00 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 No, it isn't fake.    It is an actual illness. Depression is basically a chemical inbalance in the brain.    If you think it should be re-classed, please contact senior doctors and make known your viewpoint, I would be interested to see their response to your claim. You're lying but telling the truth, technically. It's possible that there are changes in the brain, but this points to nothing other than "people who have changing psychological states have corresponding changes in the brain", just like someone who constantly is extremely happy would have changes in the brain. So, it's an effect, not a cause. Hehe, you know what I mean. I was scaling it down to layman's terms, as it were.   I've known people - including my local vicar - who at certain times of their life get debilitating clinical depression. Depression isn't just about being "sad" - it's about being so depressed that you can't even get out of bed anymore. -- Posted by marshmellowman at 5:04 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Quote: from prisoner of hss at 1:02 am on Jan. 11, 2009 Yeah. The condition is 'fake' in that it doesn't exist as a legitimate medical diagnosis, but it's very real as an emotional problem, as are all mental disorders. Exactly, I think all the people replying in this topic are missing this point. The OP is not a douchebag, but brought up a point that was misinterpreted. -- Posted by iconoclast at 5:04 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Quote: from hivemind at 8:03 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Stop making statements witno facts backing them up, there is plenty of proof of depression being real, depression isnt just a case of 'being sad' people with depression have terrible self-esteem, can become issolated from society and stop eating, and in some cases attempted suicide. Also from a scientific perspective people suffering from depression have a lower Dopamine level in there Brain chemistry. People who run a lot have higher level of X scientific-sounding brain chemical which we understand not nearly everything about, thus running causes imbalance of X scientific-sounding brain chemical. Your statement is completely empty. -- Posted by Majo at 5:04 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Quote: from prisoner of hss at 8:02 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Quote: from marshmellowman at 8:01 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 The DSM-IV criteria has been heavily criticised as to whether or not such conditions really exist and the psychological factor in itself. I don't doubt people can feel extremely sad or 'depressed' but if it merits a medical diagnosis is the point here. No, the pills don't contain serotonin, but instead help to increase serotonin concentration by preventing its reuptake. Yeah.   The condition is 'fake' in that it doesn't exist as a legitimate medical diagnosis, but it's very real as an emotional problem, as are all mental disorders. What's the difference between a medical disorder and a mental disorder? Is the latter any more controllable and/or real/fake than the former? Is the latter not a form of the former? -- Posted by SAMMYJS99 at 5:06 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Quote: from Majo at 8:04 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Quote: from prisoner of hss at 8:02 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Quote: from marshmellowman at 8:01 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 The DSM-IV criteria has been heavily criticised as to whether or not such conditions really exist and the psychological factor in itself. I don't doubt people can feel extremely sad or 'depressed' but if it merits a medical diagnosis is the point here.    No, the pills don't contain serotonin, but instead help to increase serotonin concentration by preventing its reuptake. Yeah. The condition is 'fake' in that it doesn't exist as a legitimate medical diagnosis, but it's very real as an emotional problem, as are all mental disorders. Is the latter not a form of the former? NOW, i am really confused. -- Posted by Phoenix 1989 at 5:06 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Quote: from Tasbard at 1:59 pm on Jan. 11, 2009 Are you a troll or just an absolute douche? both i think depression is a serious ilness i had a gf that was depressed and it was horible -- Posted by iconoclast at 5:06 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Quote: from yellowsapphire at 8:04 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Quote: from prisoner of hss at 1:01 am on Jan. 11, 2009 Quote: from yellowsapphire at 8:00 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 No, it isn't fake.   It is an actual illness. Depression is basically a chemical inbalance in the brain.   If you think it should be re-classed, please contact senior doctors and make known your viewpoint, I would be interested to see their response to your claim. You're lying but telling the truth, technically.    It's possible that there are changes in the brain, but this points to nothing other than "people who have changing psychological states have corresponding changes in the brain", just like someone who constantly is extremely happy would have changes in the brain.    So, it's an effect, not a cause. Hehe, you know what I mean. I was scaling it down to layman's terms, as it were.   I've known people - including my local vicar - who at certain times of their life get debilitating clinical depression. Depression isn't just about being "sad" - it's about being so depressed that you can't even get out of bed anymore. It doesn't really matter how bad it is. I've had "clinical depression" before, and I know how fucking bad it is. Mind you, this wasn't some transient phase, it was four years of absolute hell. Psychological states can completely drag a person down, and since the process of feeling is more subtle, it's often hard to change. It doesn't mean there's a 'chemical imbalance' or something. -- Posted by Majo at 5:09 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Quote: from SAMMYJS99 at 8:06 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Quote: from Majo at 8:04 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Quote: from prisoner of hss at 8:02 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Quote: from marshmellowman at 8:01 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 The DSM-IV criteria has been heavily criticised as to whether or not such conditions really exist and the psychological factor in itself. I don't doubt people can feel extremely sad or 'depressed' but if it merits a medical diagnosis is the point here.     No, the pills don't contain serotonin, but instead help to increase serotonin concentration by preventing its reuptake. Yeah.      The condition is 'fake' in that it doesn't exist as a legitimate medical diagnosis, but it's very real as an emotional problem, as are all mental disorders.    Is the latter not a form of the former? NOW, i am really confused. XD The guy I was responding to said that it's not a "legitimate medical diagnosis" but referred to it as a mental disorder...and I was just wondering how the latter (mental disorders) differs from the former (medical disorders)? Because the mind is a part of the body and it can get "sick" just like any other part like your liver or heart or kidneys and needs treated. At least that's how it was put to me anyways. I mean...if a mental disorder isn't a medical disorder, what is it? It's kind of hard to explain...like...how is it an entirely different beast? -- Posted by Parsine at 5:10 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 I don't understand why prisoner of hss finds it implausible that the brain could have a problem that leads it to synthesize inadequete levels of serotonin, etc. -- Posted by yellowsapphire at 5:10 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Quote: from prisoner of hss at 1:06 am on Jan. 11, 2009 Quote: from yellowsapphire at 8:04 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Quote: from prisoner of hss at 1:01 am on Jan. 11, 2009 Quote: from yellowsapphire at 8:00 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 No, it isn't fake.       It is an actual illness. Depression is basically a chemical inbalance in the brain.       If you think it should be re-classed, please contact senior doctors and make known your viewpoint, I would be interested to see their response to your claim. You're lying but telling the truth, technically.   It's possible that there are changes in the brain, but this points to nothing other than "people who have changing psychological states have corresponding changes in the brain", just like someone who constantly is extremely happy would have changes in the brain.   So, it's an effect, not a cause.    Hehe, you know what I mean. I was scaling it down to layman's terms, as it were.    I've known people - including my local vicar - who at certain times of their life get debilitating clinical depression. Depression isn't just about being "sad" - it's about being so depressed that you can't even get out of bed anymore. It doesn't really matter how bad it is. I've had "clinical depression" before, and I know how fucking bad it is. Mind you, this wasn't some transient phase, it was four years of absolute hell. Psychological states can completely drag a person down, and since the process of feeling is more subtle, it's often hard to change. It doesn't mean there's a 'chemical imbalance' or something. I'm not trying to belittle you, don't worry   Depression nearly broke my family up when I was younger, when my dad had a particularly bad spell. However, just a little bit of food for thought here, not a big point as such, but is an illness just something on the surface, or does it include psychological health too? Pages: 1 2  Next