Pages: 1 2  Next -- Posted by Bud2400 at 11:19 pm on Jan. 11, 2009 I was listening to some guys talking about the term on the channel POTUS on my satelite radio the other day and it got me wondering how people view the term. 1) Do you consider term "Negro" offensive? 2) Why do you consider it offensive (or not offensive)? 3) Do you believe that those who use the term are more than likely racist?  Why? -- Posted by ocho cinco at 11:22 pm on Jan. 11, 2009 3) yes -- Posted by mnight at 11:22 pm on Jan. 11, 2009 I think it's interesting that it's "become" offensive.  I don't know how it's any different than black people calling each other "nigger".  Even the word "black" has negative connotation sometimes. But even though I don't understand it, I respect that they can be hurt from hearing it, and I expect people to remove it from their vocabulary... exactly the way I don't want to hear faggot and cocksucker and "that's gay" all the time.  If it's bothering people, don't say it. 1) yes. 2) not sure 3) probably, or just uneducated or naive. -- Posted by SpRiNgS at 11:23 pm on Jan. 11, 2009 Quote: from Bud2400 at 11:19 pm on Jan. 11, 2009 I was listening to some guys talking about the term on the channel POTUS on my satelite radio the other day and it got me wondering how people view the term. 1) Do you consider term "Negro" offensive? 2) Why do you consider it offensive (or not offensive)? 3) Do you believe that those who use the term are more than likely racist? Why? 1) naw not really 2)naw, it's cause my grampa had to deal with being aclled a term more HARSH than such and it kidn of affecte dme cause he'd work with people who would call himt hat and then i got friends (black) who're like "negro please" 3) not racist necessarily, but a bit behind the times -- Posted by h a t t at 11:23 pm on Jan. 11, 2009 no i don't think so. it's more politically correct than african america. it's like saying "black" imo. -- Posted by major at 11:24 pm on Jan. 11, 2009 I don't think it's offensive, but I think it's in poor taste. -- Posted by SpRiNgS at 11:26 pm on Jan. 11, 2009 Quote: from Major at 11:24 pm on Jan. 11, 2009 I don't think it's offensive, but I think it's in poor taste. yeah it's in poor taste sort of colored=negro in poor taste lmao i remember this one persons parents, who uh, when i came over one tiem referred to me as her colored friend. I was like   -- Posted by Bud2400 at 11:31 pm on Jan. 11, 2009 On the channel I was listening to, this one guy was going on about the power to create racial labels and enforce them. He went on to explain that most blacks don't typically refer to themselves as negro, and as such, don't prefer the term. However, when you have a non-black (typically a white person) calling black people negros, that's essentially taken as a sign of disrespect because it's saying "I don't care how you want to be referred to as. I will refer to you as however I damn well wish!" Not sure how the power to enforce the label gets worked into it as very few whites refer to blacks as negro (although as far as the genetics of race goes, negro is usually used to refer to what we'd think of as blacks), but the guy went on about how whites have the power to enforce that over how blacks would like to be called and blah blah. Might have some validity (particularly for the first part), but he conveniently ignores the fact that most whites don't accept the term either. -- Posted by I never forget at 11:33 pm on Jan. 11, 2009 1) Not really, but it's a bit odd to say. I might say "what the fuck?" 2) Not so much, but like just about any word it can be used in an offensive manner. 3) I'd guess the chances would be higher than someone who doesn't though. Just because it's a pretty odd saying, and most of the people that use it in my experience actually are. -- Posted by jakelong at 12:09 am on Jan. 12, 2009 I consider it retarded and outdated like someone who likes to speak like they are still in the 1950s or someone who's too much of a pussy to say nigger. I don't get why they can't just say "black" especially when the same idiots don't mind saying "white". -- Posted by jakelong at 12:13 am on Jan. 12, 2009 Quote: from Springs at 11:26 pm on Jan. 11, 2009 lmao i remember this one persons parents, who uh, when i came over one tiem referred to me as her colored friend. I was like pretty weird.   -- Posted by SpRiNgS at 12:18 am on Jan. 12, 2009 Quote: from jakelong at 12:13 am on Jan. 12, 2009 Quote: from Springs at 11:26 pm on Jan. 11, 2009 lmao i remember this one persons parents, who uh, when i came over one tiem referred to me as her colored friend. I was like   pretty weird. very very weird -- Posted by jakelong at 12:18 am on Jan. 12, 2009 Quote: from Bud2400 at 11:31 pm on Jan. 11, 2009 On the channel I was listening to, this one guy was going on about the power to create racial labels and enforce them. Well thats domething that always bothers me. When ppl try to tell others how to call themselves. Like ppl who bash others when they call themselves latino or hispanic. Or try to label native Americans as "red" then "Indian" then "amerind" and decide what they should call themselves for them. And if those guys protest and say well I don't like that label or I don't fit in that group or that its not the correct term then they call them trash and retards and scum. I always let ppl give themselves the label they want. -- Posted by Mister Perfect at 4:17 am on Jan. 12, 2009 I'm not offended by it, but i've never heard anyone refer to anyone else IRL as "Negro". Ive only seen that done on the Internet, where you can hide behind your screen -- Posted by Jazzy Jeff at 8:56 am on Jan. 12, 2009 Negro is unnecessary just like caucasian or Mongoloid. The only setting where this is seen as appropriate would be either through history or research. Using those terms in day to day life is just ackward. Offensive? Depends...but I wouldn't think twice about the average person getting offended by someone calling them Mongoloid, Causian, or Negro instead of asking about their names respectfully. -- Posted by jakelong at 12:36 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 Hey we all know that the caucasoid hordes would never be offended by name calling. I mean who would ever think of caucasois as a negative term? I also like how they tell me I'm a mongrel.   -- Posted by Chava at 12:47 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 It's not racist. It's actually Spanish for black so I use it all of the time. I don't think people who use it are racist. -- Posted by smartlake at 1:00 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 It just means the color black whenever I hear it. -- Posted by jakelong at 1:07 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 Also some fun stuff from the urbandictionary Negro The word white people use when they're too afraid to say the word 'niger' or 'nigga'. Mainly old white people.   Anyone wonders why when it comes to black ppl its suddenly ok to use a Spanish word (specially when  anglos are always up in arms about any latino using spanish)? You'd think if we really wanted to be accurate we could use the swahili for example Eusi = black in swahili Baki or baku = black in hausa Anybody ever bothered to find that out? Or how about Ubuntu = "I am what I am because of who we all are" in bantu. -- Posted by Chava at 1:21 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 Quote: from jakelong at 4:07 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 Also some fun stuff from the urbandictionary Negro  The word white people use when they're too afraid to say the word 'niger' or 'nigga'. Mainly old white people. Anyone wonders why when it comes to black ppl its suddenly ok to use a Spanish word (specially when anglos are always up in arms about any latino using spanish)? You'd think if we really wanted to be accurate we could use the swahili for example Eusi = black in swahili Baki or baku = black in hausa Anybody ever bothered to find that out? Or how about Ubuntu = "I am what I am because of who we all are" in bantu. Spanish is more prominant here in the U.S.A. than Swahilli. That's probably why using a Spanish word would be more acceptable. My family uses both English and Spanish. I would have never know what the Swahilli word for black was had you not posted it and I'm sure that if I make a general conversation about black people and use the word Eusi whomever I would be talking to would look at me blankly or ask what the hell I had just said. And no one bitches about Hispanics using Spanish with people who speak Spanish we complain about them not attempting to learn English while in an English speaking country. I've learned to be more respectful of that watching my fiance's family struggle to learn English and for the simple fact that I've learned Spanish. But I can see the other side of the dillema after working for Meijers a while back. Hispanics would come in and steal all of the time and most of them spoke enough English to get their papers and whatever else they needed but when it came to being in trouble or giving out their name/address for the police they suddenly could speak English, read, or write. And everything has an origin. Niger is Latin for black, Spanish added and O and eventually an e (in place of the i), English added an extra g but it just means black. Alot of English literature uses the term. Charles Dickens and Mark Twain for example. It's stupid to debate whether or not it is offensive. If you're offended by it you're ignorant. If you have black skin you are a Nigger, niger, negro etc. You are a black person in other words. I'm blanco, blanc, lavan, a white person. It's nothing more than a word for a colour. -- Posted by smartlake at 1:31 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 Quote: from Chava at 1:21 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 Quote: from jakelong at 4:07 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 Also some fun stuff from the urbandictionary    Negro     The word white people use when they're too afraid to say the word 'niger' or 'nigga'. Mainly old white people.      Anyone wonders why when it comes to black ppl its suddenly ok to use a Spanish word (specially when  anglos are always up in arms about any latino using spanish)?    You'd think if we really wanted to be accurate we could use the swahili for example    Eusi = black in swahili    Baki or baku = black in hausa    Anybody ever bothered to find that out?    Or how about    Ubuntu = "I am what I am because of who we all are" in bantu.     Spanish is more prominant here in the U.S.A. than Swahilli. That's probably why using a Spanish word would be more acceptable. My family uses both English and Spanish. I would have never know what the Swahilli word for black was had you not posted it and I'm sure that if I make a general conversation about black people and use the word Eusi whomever I would be talking to would look at me blankly or ask what the hell I had just said. And no one bitches about Hispanics using Spanish with people who speak Spanish we complain about them not attempting to learn English while in an English speaking country. I've learned to be more respectful of that watching my fiance's family struggle to learn English and for the simple fact that I've learned Spanish. But I can see the other side of the dillema after working for Meijers a while back. Hispanics would come in and steal all of the time and most of them spoke enough English to get their papers and whatever else they needed but when it came to being in trouble or giving out their name/address for the police they suddenly could speak English, read, or write.   And everything has an origin. Niger is Latin for black, Spanish added and O and eventually an e (in place of the i), English added an extra g but it just means black. Alot of English literature uses the term. Charles Dickens and Mark Twain for example. It's stupid to debate whether or not it is offensive. If you're offended by it you're ignorant. If you have black skin you are a Nigger, niger, negro etc. You are a black person in other words. I'm blanco, blanc, lavan, a white person. It's nothing more than a word for a colour. Everytime I hear 'negro' used to refer to a black person (which is rare), it is usually part of the United Negro College Fund, or an older white person.  Typically, older white people are against the use of Spanish (although it is also Portuguese) in daily life, which is strange why they find it acceptable to use Spanish when defining a person.  I don't think they mean anything racist of it, they are just using the words they probably used when the grow up.   In Spanish, obviously it means black, although saying 'negrito/a" means a darker or tanned person, no necessarily just a black person.  It is used fondly. -- Posted by Chava at 1:38 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 Unless it's used as pendeja negrita or pendejo negrito. My mother-in-law uses that all the time when she gets cut off driving. hehe -- Posted by jakelong at 1:44 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 Quote: from Chava at 1:21 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 Spanish is more prominant here in the U.S.A. than Swahilli. Yeah but most the same anglos who bitch about latinos speaking spanish are the ones who use the word "negro". My family uses both English and Spanish. I would have never know what the Swahilli word for black was had you not posted it But it would be more accurate. BTW before you make a total fool of yourself (I know I am bit late to stop you from that though) I am latino. And no one bitches about Hispanics using Spanish with people who speak Spanish we complain about them not attempting to learn English while in an English speaking country. Well why don't you attempt to learn Navajo in a Native American country?  And everything has an origin. Niger is Latin for black, Spanish added and O and eventually an e (in place of the i), English added an extra g but it just means black. Right. And WHY not use the original words in african laguages? Too mouch trouble for the master race? Alot of English literature uses the term. Charles Dickens and Mark Twain for example. Are you from the 19th century? Do you call Irish ppl dugans or micks or pikeys? Do you call chinese ppl celestials? Come on. Why is it suddenly fine to use 19th century words or foreign words for blacks and not for others? -- Posted by Chava at 1:53 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 Quote: from jakelong at 4:44 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 Quote: from Chava at 1:21 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 Spanish is more prominant here in the U.S.A. than Swahilli. Yeah but most the same anglos who bitch about latinos speaking spanish are the ones who use the word "negro". My family uses both English and Spanish. I would have never know what the Swahilli word for black was had you not posted it But it would be more accurate.   BTW before you make a total fool of yourself (I know I am bit late to stop you from that though) I am latino. And no one bitches about Hispanics using Spanish with people who speak Spanish we complain about them not attempting to learn English while in an English speaking country. Well why don't you attempt to learn Navajo in a Native American country? And everything has an origin. Niger is Latin for black, Spanish added and O and eventually an e (in place of the i), English added an extra g but it just means black. Right. And WHY not use the original words in african laguages? Too mouch trouble for the master race? Alot of English literature uses the term. Charles Dickens and Mark Twain for example. Are you from the 19th century? Do you call Irish ppl dugans or micks or pikeys? Do you call chinese ppl celestials? Come on. Why is it suddenly fine to use 19th century words or foreign words for blacks and not for others? We speak languages based on Latin. That's why I don't rummage through African languages trying to be politically correct. And the 19th century literature are ENGLISH classics.They're relevant because we study them in high school still. Seeing as we're not really debating Spanish it was simply used to explain why we use Negro and not some Swahilli word. We don't speak Navajo because the last time I checked it was about 200 years ago that this country was a Native American country. As is the case with all of the Americas (Northern, Central, and Southern). You're grasping at straws to prove a point. -- Posted by smartlake at 2:00 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 Quote: from Chava at 1:38 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 Unless it's used as pendeja negrita or pendejo negrito. My mother-in-law uses that all the time when she gets cut off driving. hehe Well, of course -- Posted by SpRiNgS at 2:02 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 i dont really consider it offensive but it still elicits a   -- Posted by NunUthaDan at 5:31 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 i'd probably look at you weird, but no it's not offensive...just outdated. -- Posted by jakelong at 7:47 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 Quote: from Chava at 1:53 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 We speak languages based on Latin. We do not speak Spanish. Everyone in the US is really quick to remind me. That's why I don't rummage through African languages trying to be politically correct. Is being ACCURATE "politically correct" or is it simple POLITENESS and ACCURACY?   Is refusing to call ppl names they don't want to be called "politically correct" or just simply being "correct"?   How is using a bantu word instead of a spanish word "politcally correct"? All I am saying is its weird that we choose to use a Spanish word when blacks generally do not come from Spain.   I am not trying to say that we should start using bantu or Hansa. But it would make MORE sense than using spanish out of the blue espcially we keep being beaten on the head for using spanish instead of english. I mean do you like me calling you whitey or paleface or cracker and if you protest I start saying its just PC bullshit?   And the 19th century literature are ENGLISH classics. So? Do you really read all the Eglish classics? What about the Spanish classics and the African classics? Are we ALL white English ppl? They're relevant because we study them in high school still. Did I say they were NOT? I said its not just because they use those words that we should also pretend like we're from the 19th century just so we can justify using the word "nigger" or "negro".   Negro is not offensive. But nigger is. And negro is way outdated. Period. You're grasping at straws to prove a point. Actually you are. I made my point about 1 page or 2 ago. -- Posted by brownsugerr at 4:20 pm on Jan. 28, 2009 Quote: from h a t t at 11:23 pm on Jan. 11, 2009 no i don't think so. it's more politically correct than african america. it's like saying "black" imo. how is it more politically correct than african american? -- Posted by h a t t at 4:21 pm on Jan. 28, 2009 Quote: from brownsugerr at 7:20 pm on Jan. 28, 2009 Quote: from h a t t at 11:23 pm on Jan. 11, 2009 no i don't think so. it's more politically correct than african america. it's like saying "black" imo. how is it more politically correct than african american? what makes every black person african or american Pages: 1 2  Next