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-- Posted by Dragonfang93 at 11:43 pm on June 30, 2009
Which do you think best answers the questions of how the earth was created? For me: Science.
-- Posted by Rock Lobster at 11:43 pm on June 30, 2009
science. i think anyone who thinks otherwise is stupid. i dont care if you think im a dick but religion is just foolish
-- Posted by bassguitarplayer2010 at 11:44 pm on June 30, 2009
Religion
-- Posted by Areola at 11:45 pm on June 30, 2009
Science.
-- Posted by Dragonfang93 at 11:45 pm on June 30, 2009
I just did a massive report on the Big Bang, and I'm so tempted to paste the whole thing onto here.
-- Posted by carelesmind at 11:46 pm on June 30, 2009
dude... ok, sience... a:ive got a pen! b:prove it a:*showes pen* religion a:ive got a pen b:prove it a:YOU HAVE NO PROOF THAT I DONT! i know it was i a pic, but i dont have it
-- Posted by Forever Angel at 11:48 pm on June 30, 2009
Science for the details. Religion for the reasons.
-- Posted by revived5656 at 11:48 pm on June 30, 2009
both.
-- Posted by Dragonfang93 at 11:48 pm on June 30, 2009
My friend was brought up to believe we were "put" here. He said the other night "Oh religion, how wrong you are". I'm so glad he's smart enough to see sense now. xD
-- Posted by Forever Angel at 11:49 pm on June 30, 2009
Quote: from carelesmind at 1:46 am on July 1, 2009
dude... ok, sience... a:ive got a pen! b:prove it a:*showes pen* religion a:ive got a pen b:prove it a:YOU HAVE NO PROOF THAT I DONT! i know it was i a pic, but i dont have it 
You also don't know how to spell science or properly use punctuation.
-- Posted by Moridin at 10:20 am on July 1, 2009
The earth was not created, it was formed. Quote: from Forever Angel at 9:48 am on July 1, 2009
Science for the details. Religion for the reasons. 
But science can account for the reasons ("preexisting conditions") as well.
-- Posted by Forever Angel at 12:15 pm on July 1, 2009
Quote: from Moridin at 12:20 pm on July 1, 2009
The earth was not created, it was formed. Quote: from Forever Angel at 9:48 am on July 1, 2009
Science for the details. Religion for the reasons. 
But science can account for the reasons ("preexisting conditions") as well. 
Tell me the "why" of the universe. What would be the reason for its existence? What was there before the universe that determined it would come in to existence?
-- Posted by Moridin at 12:18 pm on July 1, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 10:15 pm on July 1, 2009
Quote: from Moridin at 12:20 pm on July 1, 2009
The earth was not created, it was formed. Quote: from Forever Angel at 9:48 am on July 1, 2009
Science for the details. Religion for the reasons. 
But science can account for the reasons ("preexisting conditions") as well. 
Tell me the "why" of the universe. What would be the reason for its existence? What was there before the universe that determined it would come in to existence? 
All "why" questions can be reformulated to "how is it that" questions. Furthermore, as I have explained countless times, the question of "how is it that" for the universe is self-contradictory. Kind of how you view the situation if I where to ask for the "why" of god.
-- Posted by Forever Angel at 12:38 pm on July 1, 2009
Quote: from Moridin at 2:18 pm on July 1, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 10:15 pm on July 1, 2009
Quote: from Moridin at 12:20 pm on July 1, 2009
The earth was not created, it was formed. Quote: from Forever Angel at 9:48 am on July 1, 2009
Science for the details. Religion for the reasons. 
But science can account for the reasons ("preexisting conditions") as well. 
Tell me the "why" of the universe. What would be the reason for its existence? What was there before the universe that determined it would come in to existence? 
All "why" questions can be reformulated to "how is it that" questions. Furthermore, as I have explained countless times, the question of "how is it that" for the universe is self-contradictory. Kind of how you view the situation if I where to ask for the "why" of god. 
You just verified what I said in my post and nullified your own response.
-- Posted by Moridin at 12:58 pm on July 1, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 10:38 pm on July 1, 2009
Quote: from Moridin at 2:18 pm on July 1, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 10:15 pm on July 1, 2009
Quote: from Moridin at 12:20 pm on July 1, 2009
The earth was not created, it was formed. Quote: from Forever Angel at 9:48 am on July 1, 2009
Science for the details. Religion for the reasons. 
But science can account for the reasons ("preexisting conditions") as well. 
Tell me the "why" of the universe. What would be the reason for its existence? What was there before the universe that determined it would come in to existence? 
All "why" questions can be reformulated to "how is it that" questions. Furthermore, as I have explained countless times, the question of "how is it that" for the universe is self-contradictory. Kind of how you view the situation if I where to ask for the "why" of god. 
You just verified what I said in my post and nullified your own response. 
No, because it was regarding the formation of the earth, not the universe. Way to derail a thread.
-- Posted by Forever Angel at 1:31 pm on July 1, 2009
Quote: from Moridin at 2:58 pm on July 1, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 10:38 pm on July 1, 2009
Quote: from Moridin at 2:18 pm on July 1, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 10:15 pm on July 1, 2009
Quote: from Moridin at 12:20 pm on July 1, 2009
The earth was not created, it was formed. Quote: from Forever Angel at 9:48 am on July 1, 2009
Science for the details. Religion for the reasons. 
But science can account for the reasons ("preexisting conditions") as well. 
Tell me the "why" of the universe. What would be the reason for its existence? What was there before the universe that determined it would come in to existence? 
All "why" questions can be reformulated to "how is it that" questions. Furthermore, as I have explained countless times, the question of "how is it that" for the universe is self-contradictory. Kind of how you view the situation if I where to ask for the "why" of god. 
You just verified what I said in my post and nullified your own response. 
No, because it was regarding the formation of the earth, not the universe. Way to derail a thread. 
Nice dodge. Your response said nothing about the earth either. But the principle is the same. Why did the earth come to be? Not how, but why..
-- Posted by KathyN at 1:44 pm on July 1, 2009
Both in some way
-- Posted by BritchesAndHose at 4:26 pm on July 1, 2009
Science can easily answer those questions. When it comes to the formation of the universe, both are absurd.
-- Posted by Moridin at 6:15 pm on July 1, 2009
Yes, my post clearly indicates that it is about the earth.
The earth was not created, it was formed. Quote: from Forever Angel at 9:48 am on July 1, 2009
Science for the details. Religion for the reasons. 
But science can account for the reasons ("preexisting conditions") as well [for the earth]. 
Learn to read.
-- Posted by Forever Angel at 9:10 pm on July 1, 2009
Quote: from Moridin at 8:15 pm on July 1, 2009
Yes, my post clearly indicates that it is about the earth.
The earth was not created, it was formed. Quote: from Forever Angel at 9:48 am on July 1, 2009
Science for the details. Religion for the reasons. 
But science can account for the reasons ("preexisting conditions") as well [for the earth]. 
Learn to read. 
Take your own advice. That's not a response to why. And how long did those "conditions" pre-exist? And what were they? And why were they "pre-existing"?
-- Posted by Moridin at 9:20 pm on July 1, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 7:10 am on July 2, 2009
Quote: from Moridin at 8:15 pm on July 1, 2009
Yes, my post clearly indicates that it is about the earth.
The earth was not created, it was formed. Quote: from Forever Angel at 9:48 am on July 1, 2009
Science for the details. Religion for the reasons. 
But science can account for the reasons ("preexisting conditions") as well [for the earth]. 
Learn to read. 
Take your own advice. That's not a response to why. And how long did those "conditions" pre-exist? And what were they? And why were they "pre-existing"? 
Read up on planetary formation. Yes, "why..." is equivalent to "how is it that..." No magic why question, no gap to insert your particular mythology. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_of_the_gaps#Criticism
-- Posted by Forever Angel at 10:38 pm on July 1, 2009
Planetary formation tells me how it happened. And no, "why" and "how is it that..." are not equivalent.
-- Posted by Effigy at 5:54 am on July 2, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 10:38 pm on July 1, 2009
Planetary formation tells me how it happened. And no, "why" and "how is it that..." are not equivalent. 
To be clear what would you consider a 'why' question? If you're talking about some sort of grand meaning on a cosmic scale then science obviously can't give you that, but what makes anyone think that religion can? Even if science can't offer us anything more in this regard, that doesn't automatically give religion a free pass to tell us what's what.
-- Posted by Forever Angel at 7:27 am on July 2, 2009
Quote: from Effigy at 7:54 am on July 2, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 10:38 pm on July 1, 2009
Planetary formation tells me how it happened. And no, "why" and "how is it that..." are not equivalent. 
To be clear what would you consider a 'why' question? If you're talking about some sort of grand meaning on a cosmic scale then science obviously can't give you that, but what makes anyone think that religion can? Even if science can't offer us anything more in this regard, that doesn't automatically give religion a free pass to tell us what's what. 
Are you telling me I can't or shouldn't believe in my God?
-- Posted by Defenestrator at 5:34 pm on July 2, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 11:48 pm on June 30, 2009
Science for the details. Religion for the reasons. 
This.
-- Posted by Effigy at 3:33 am on July 3, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 7:27 am on July 2, 2009
Quote: from Effigy at 7:54 am on July 2, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 10:38 pm on July 1, 2009
Planetary formation tells me how it happened. And no, "why" and "how is it that..." are not equivalent. 
To be clear what would you consider a 'why' question? If you're talking about some sort of grand meaning on a cosmic scale then science obviously can't give you that, but what makes anyone think that religion can? Even if science can't offer us anything more in this regard, that doesn't automatically give religion a free pass to tell us what's what. 
Are you telling me I can't or shouldn't believe in my God? 
It was pretty obviously not meant to be personal, so don't bother playing it up for theatrics.
-- Posted by R Blake at 5:16 am on July 3, 2009
Science all the way. I wouldn't dream of saying that religion has no place in society; we have the power of imagination and faith, and the right to believe what we choose. But those powers evolved over millions of years. The certainty that religion brings is poor defence against the accountability required of science, and moreover, the discoveries made by scientists are far more credible, fascinating, and therefore beautiful than the myths and legends propped up by belief and wishful thinking. Besides, science is wonderful. Isn't it more fun to know how little you know, but that what you do know is certain to be true?
-- Posted by Moridin at 6:54 am on July 3, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 8:38 am on July 2, 2009
Planetary formation tells me how it happened. And no, "why" and "how is it that..." are not equivalent. 
Really? Name one "why" question that cannot be converted to "how is it that.."
-- Posted by Forever Angel at 8:09 am on July 3, 2009
Quote: from Moridin at 8:54 am on July 3, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 8:38 am on July 2, 2009
Planetary formation tells me how it happened. And no, "why" and "how is it that..." are not equivalent. 
Really? Name one "why" question that cannot be converted to "how is it that.." 
Why would I do that?
-- Posted by Aimforthehead at 10:53 am on July 3, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 11:48 pm on June 30, 2009
Science for the details. Religion for the reasons. 
Misread. Um, The bible doesn't really explain why, it just kind of 'is'. I never caught an ultimate reasoning behind this nonsense.
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