-- Posted by ajm at 9:02 am on July 6, 2009 It is a lie.  Marriage has always been changing.  Calling something traditional marriage is just calling our contemporary marriage ideals "traditional".  If you really want traditional marriage should we go back to beating our wives?    Traditions and customs change, that is how our system works.  This is my gripe about gay marriage. -- Posted by Chasey at 9:03 am on July 6, 2009 truee -- Posted by audibleSIN at 9:03 am on July 6, 2009 Will you marry me wisdom filled man? -- Posted by SavannahNoel at 9:04 am on July 6, 2009 Everything about marriage is going wayyyy overboard lately. Who even cares any more. Gays should be able to marry who ever they want. People say they "hate" them because they can't reproduce...well, some straight couples can't either. -- Posted by redhotchilis64 at 9:04 am on July 6, 2009 Everything in society always changes- that's why no conservative ideas ever work. They're trying to run a 21st century modern country on 16th century social and fiscal ideas. -- Posted by fizzle123 at 9:08 am on July 6, 2009 A marraige doesn't constitute the beating of wives. and a gay marriage is not a marriage its called a civil partner ship.. and not all men beat their wives, this was a tabboo that was seen as the male being more superior to a woman. A civil partner ship would never have been seen as the right way to go about life, and still is condemned in other countiries. even illegal. Its not that our traditions changed, its that the government are moulding us and trying to get us to comform by giving us "consilation" for the shit they puyt os through