Pages: 1 2  Next -- Posted by Forever Angel at 5:00 pm on July 9, 2009 the government can say, "We don't care..."? Guantanamo Bay detainees who are acquitted by civil or military courts may still be imprisoned indefinitely if the government determines that they pose a national security threat, the Defense Department's chief lawyer said yesterday. "The question of what happens if there's an acquittal is an interesting question -- we talk about that often within the administration," Pentagon general counsel Jeh Johnson said at a Senate hearing. "If, for some reason, he's not convicted for a lengthy prison sentence, then, as a matter of legal authority, I think it's our view that we would have the ability to detain that person," he said. Washington Post Really... wtf??? -- Posted by MushroomSatsujin at 5:01 pm on July 9, 2009 The Government always does whats best. -- Posted by utheh at 5:01 pm on July 9, 2009 That's fucked up -- Posted by An Young Guy at 5:02 pm on July 9, 2009 Wow. -- Posted by Ashtrey8 at 5:02 pm on July 9, 2009 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 5:01 pm on July 9, 2009 The Government always does what it wants. Fixed it for ya. -- Posted by xIBRAiNSTORM at 5:02 pm on July 9, 2009 it's guantanamo bay, you only go there if you're a considered total psycho. to me it makes sense. it doesnt mean for minor offences, or something like rape; guantanamo bay is for the terrorists and plotters. -- Posted by MushroomSatsujin at 5:03 pm on July 9, 2009 Quote: from Ashtrey8 at 5:02 pm on July 9, 2009 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 5:01 pm on July 9, 2009 The Government always does what it wants. Fixed it for ya. Teh CIA did it -- Posted by Forever Angel at 5:04 pm on July 9, 2009 Quote: from xIBRAiNSTORM at 7:02 pm on July 9, 2009 it's guantanamo bay, you only go there if you're a considered total psycho. to me it makes sense. it doesnt mean for minor offences, or something like rape; guantanamo bay is for the terrorists and plotters. Your reply doesn't make sense. If a person is found not guilty of any crime, he should be released according to LAW. -- Posted by Charolastra at 5:05 pm on July 9, 2009 Guantanamo Bay is just a pretty messy situation altogether. The prisoners deserve constitutional rights, imo. -- Posted by Goddess of Judecca at 5:10 pm on July 9, 2009 This is the kinda shit that prevents me from being proud of the fact that I'm American. Our government is an embarrassment. ~Maggot -- Posted by Forever Angel at 5:40 pm on July 9, 2009 Even the Daily Kos doesn't seem to support this blatant disregard of the law. Acquitted and indefinitely detained on the executive's say-so. That doesn't really sound like the kind of American justice we learned about in civics class, unless that class was taught by John Yoo. -- Posted by Neodymie at 5:44 pm on July 9, 2009 The government knows what's best. -- Posted by Forever Angel at 5:48 pm on July 9, 2009 Quote: from Neodymie at 7:44 pm on July 9, 2009 The government knows what's best. Yeah, I suppose championing the idea that they should have trials and then ignoring the decision of the court is really what's best. -- Posted by Neodymie at 5:55 pm on July 9, 2009 Quote: from Forever Angel at 5:48 pm on July 9, 2009 Quote: from Neodymie at 7:44 pm on July 9, 2009 The government knows what's best. Yeah, I suppose championing the idea that they should have trials and then ignoring the decision of the court is really what's best. They know what they're doing. Just go back to watching American Idol now. -- Posted by Forever Angel at 6:05 pm on July 9, 2009 Quote: from Neodymie at 7:55 pm on July 9, 2009 Quote: from Forever Angel at 5:48 pm on July 9, 2009 Quote: from Neodymie at 7:44 pm on July 9, 2009 The government knows what's best. Yeah, I suppose championing the idea that they should have trials and then ignoring the decision of the court is really what's best. They know what they're doing. Just go back to watching American Idol now. What's American Idol? -- Posted by Neodymie at 6:16 pm on July 9, 2009 You're so boring :( -- Posted by Forever Angel at 6:21 pm on July 9, 2009 Quote: from Neodymie at 8:16 pm on July 9, 2009 You're so boring :( Because I don't watch American Idol? Lol, you're so transparent. -- Posted by Neodymie at 10:04 pm on July 9, 2009 I was just joking, and you killed it. -- Posted by biflexible at 11:08 pm on July 9, 2009 Quote: from xIBRAiNSTORM at 1:02 am on July 10, 2009 it's guantanamo bay, you only go there if you're a considered total psycho. to me it makes sense. it doesnt mean for minor offences, or something like rape; guantanamo bay is for the terrorists and plotters. Yea like Omar Deghayes? Who was kept prisoner for 6 years when after 2 there was sufficient evidence to prove that his imprisonment was a case of mistaken identity? Who is currently campaigning for evidence of his abuse not to be destroyed (he may have lost that legal battle by now...)? No, it's not for 'minor offences' like rape, I mean that is practice by the guards right? Anal cavity search everyday when you have had absolutely no chance of picking anything up? -- Posted by SovSull at 11:37 pm on July 9, 2009 everyone watch this if you don't watch it fuck you -- Posted by medjai at 11:39 pm on July 9, 2009 What is the point in having a trial if it doesn't matter? -- Posted by justagirl5377 at 4:39 am on July 10, 2009 Dear Neodymie                     At the Nuremburg Trials your government among others denied that one could justify one's actions by saying " The government knows best" & by doing so executed many people.If it doesn't fustify Fascists it doesn't justify Americans - unless of course the US is a fascist state which many in my country believe it to be -- Posted by Dexter Ward at 5:37 am on July 10, 2009 Once they say your a terrorists your fucked, even if your proven not to be your rights are still tossed clean out the window. -- Posted by Laurence at 5:56 am on July 10, 2009 This is exactly the problem with those types of imprisonments. They were based on the principle of guilty until proven innocent.   But after many years of keeping prisoners under our thumb it becomes difficult to let go of them. Thus it no longer matters whether they are truly huilty or not. The fear becomes so great to admit wrongdoing and shake the status quo that releasing these prisoners is unthinkable. Therefore they must remain prisoners. -- Posted by medjai at 7:09 am on July 10, 2009 No, clearly they are based on "Guilty no matter what." They are stating that if in a court of law these people are determined to be innocent that they will still be arrested and detained indefinitely as criminals. -- Posted by be eazy at 11:01 pm on July 10, 2009 there's actually amendments and what not in bills like the patriot act that allows that stuff -- Posted by Neodymie at 8:46 pm on July 12, 2009 Quote: from justagirl5377 at 4:39 am on July 10, 2009 Dear Neodymie   At the Nuremburg Trials your government among others denied that one could justify one's actions by saying " The government knows best" & by doing so executed many people.If it doesn't fustify Fascists it doesn't justify Americans - unless of course the US is a fascist state which many in my country believe it to be First. I was joking, I think that the US doing that is absolutely wrong and should be stopped. Second. The Nuremberg trials were nothing but a show and are a horrible precedence to base anything upon. -- Posted by dm13 at 9:33 pm on July 12, 2009 Quote: from Goddess of Judecca at 5:10 pm on July 9, 2009 This is the kinda shit that prevents me from being proud of the fact that I'm American. Our government is an embarrassment.   ~Maggot Yeah dude, our country blows the big one, I mean, we don't benefit anyone or anything.   OHWAITTHATSBULLSHIT -- Posted by whoisabs at 3:04 am on July 14, 2009 Still wonder what should happen to people who fire upon our troops, but aren't part of any military organization that would allow them to be classified as POWs, thus being able to be held in a POW camp 'until the end of the war'? What would happen if a person is released from the camp turns around and kills Americans in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, etc? -- Posted by Savior at 10:20 am on July 14, 2009 Thing is they are not being treated as prisoners of war and have none of the protections of people of that status. Pages: 1 2  Next