-- Posted by Explosion990 at 10:24 am on July 10, 2009 Just want to hear everyone's opinion.   Pro - For the most part, anyone can come here with nothing but the will to work and still make a living. Con - No free healthcare -- Posted by An Young Guy at 10:24 am on July 10, 2009 Your pro is false. -- Posted by Catzcore at 10:25 am on July 10, 2009 a pro for me is, if i go there i feel slimmer cause theres alot of overweight people =) -- Posted by Mods1Blow2Me3Daily at 10:25 am on July 10, 2009 pros, democracy, cons, obesity. i hate looking at fat people. its the number one cause of preventable death -- Posted by MushroomSatsujin at 10:25 am on July 10, 2009 Pro- Rights other countries dont have. Cons - crappy government to maintain those rights, yet fail on their duties -- Posted by 4ade at 10:26 am on July 10, 2009 Cons = stupidity, being fat -- Posted by IceTeaEdwin at 10:26 am on July 10, 2009 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 12:25 pm on July 10, 2009 Pro- Rights other countries dont have. Cons - crappy government to maintain those rights, yet fail on their duties ^ -- Posted by An Young Guy at 10:26 am on July 10, 2009 Quote: from 4ade at 1:26 pm on July 10, 2009 Cons = stupidity, being fat Moron. -- Posted by Just Waiting Here at 10:26 am on July 10, 2009 I don't agree with your pro. Con - The economy.  The fact that they may start a mandatory military draft for 18-24 year olds.  No free health care. Pro - They don't put their milk in bags. --- Obviously there's more.  I don't mind living here, it's fine.  But the only distinct pro that could come to my head was the milk thing. -- Posted by MushroomSatsujin at 10:26 am on July 10, 2009 Quote: from 4ade at 10:26 am on July 10, 2009 Cons = stupidity, being fat Have you ever been to America? -- Posted by Dexter Ward at 10:26 am on July 10, 2009 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 1:25 pm on July 10, 2009 Pro- Rights other countries dont have. Cons - crappy government to maintain those rights, yet fail on their duties This, plus the Federal government just loves to violate the state's rights. -- Posted by kassieg61692 at 10:27 am on July 10, 2009 entertainment is a pro... -- Posted by MushroomSatsujin at 10:28 am on July 10, 2009 Quote: from Just Waiting Here at 10:26 am on July 10, 2009 I don't agree with your pro. Con - The economy. The fact that they may start a mandatory military draft for 18-24 year olds. No free health care. Pro - They don't put their milk in bags. --- Obviously there's more. I don't mind living here, it's fine. But the only distinct pro that could come to my head was the milk thing. Your cons are retarded. The economy is in a recession. It will get better. There will be no draft. And we already give to many free things away to people that dont deserve it -- Posted by awexome at 10:29 am on July 10, 2009 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 10:26 am on July 10, 2009 Quote: from 4ade at 10:26 am on July 10, 2009 Cons = stupidity, being fat Have you ever been to America? Usually the ones who say this kinda shit are the ones who've never been here, and just go with the flow of stereotypes because it makes them giggle, when in reality, it's pretty lame. -- Posted by Tavis at 10:30 am on July 10, 2009 Quote: from Just Waiting Here at 1:26 pm on July 10, 2009 I don't agree with your pro. Con - The economy. The fact that they may start a mandatory military draft for 18-24 year olds. No free health care. Con - They don't put their milk in bags. Fixed. -- Posted by Muffinman at 10:31 am on July 10, 2009 America will soon be like 1929 broke and owned. -- Posted by Explosion990 at 10:32 am on July 10, 2009 Quote: from Just Waiting Here at 12:26 pm on July 10, 2009 I don't agree with your pro. Con - The economy. The fact that they may start a mandatory military draft for 18-24 year olds. No free health care. Pro - They don't put their milk in bags. --- Obviously there's more. I don't mind living here, it's fine. But the only distinct pro that could come to my head was the milk thing. Do you have a link to the draft thing? I don't believe they would have the need to do that with our military power. -- Posted by JackieisBlue at 10:33 am on July 10, 2009 Cons. Fat people. -- Posted by Just Waiting Here at 10:35 am on July 10, 2009 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 10:28 am on July 10, 2009 Quote: from Just Waiting Here at 10:26 am on July 10, 2009 I don't agree with your pro.    Con - The economy.  The fact that they may start a mandatory military draft for 18-24 year olds.  No free health care.    Pro - They don't put their milk in bags.    ---    Obviously there's more.  I don't mind living here, it's fine.  But the only distinct pro that could come to my head was the milk thing. Your cons are retarded. The economy is in a recession. It will get better. There will be no draft. And we already give to many free things away to people that dont deserve it Whether or not you agree with them, they are still cons.  Of course the economy will get better, but for now?  It is bad.  I would hope there's no draft, and it probably won't go through.  But that was why I used the word "may".  And as for the last one, some people can't afford healthcare, and while we may give other 'free' things away, it's still a con for those that need health care over those other free things. Every country will have pros and cons, there's no such thing as perfect, obviously.  So how can cons, which are clearly something negative, be 'retarded'.  Just because there are other pros to back things up doesn't mean those other things are not cons. -- Posted by MushroomSatsujin at 10:39 am on July 10, 2009 Quote: from Just Waiting Here at 10:35 am on July 10, 2009 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 10:28 am on July 10, 2009 Quote: from Just Waiting Here at 10:26 am on July 10, 2009 I don't agree with your pro.   Con - The economy. The fact that they may start a mandatory military draft for 18-24 year olds. No free health care.   Pro - They don't put their milk in bags.   ---   Obviously there's more. I don't mind living here, it's fine. But the only distinct pro that could come to my head was the milk thing. Your cons are retarded. The economy is in a recession. It will get better.    There will be no draft.    And we already give to many free things away to people that dont deserve it Every country will have pros and cons, there's no such thing as perfect, obviously. So how can cons, which are clearly something negative, be 'retarded'. Just because there are other pros to back things up doesn't mean those other things are not cons. Because its like saying a con of Germany is the Nazi party. Its not going to matter. The last one is legit, though I dont agree. The draft will not happen. And the economy is going through its life. I cant see that as a con. Basically its going to be things that wont matter in about a year. -- Posted by A Bittersweet Life at 10:40 am on July 10, 2009 con-racism, shitty welfare state, and illegal immigration that needs a reform pros-entertainment, sports, standard of living -- Posted by WindChill at 10:44 am on July 10, 2009 Pro - The entertainment factor. Con - No free healthcare. -- Posted by Just Waiting Here at 10:47 am on July 10, 2009 Quote: from Explosion990 at 10:32 am on July 10, 2009 Quote: from Just Waiting Here at 12:26 pm on July 10, 2009 I don't agree with your pro.    Con - The economy.  The fact that they may start a mandatory military draft for 18-24 year olds.  No free health care.    Pro - They don't put their milk in bags.    ---    Obviously there's more.  I don't mind living here, it's fine.  But the only distinct pro that could come to my head was the milk thing. Do you have a link to the draft thing? I don't believe they would have the need to do that with our military power. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtDSwyCPEsQ It's not a draft in the 'draft' sense, lol.  Just a three month requirement that's would be manditory for like 18-20 something years old. Chances are, it won't actually happen, but I consider it a con if I have to go into mandatory training for three months.  Sorry about the added bubbles on youtube, they're annoying and I don't agree with them.  I just consider it a con if I actually have to be a part of it. -- Posted by Just Waiting Here at 10:50 am on July 10, 2009 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 10:39 am on July 10, 2009 Quote: from Just Waiting Here at 10:35 am on July 10, 2009 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 10:28 am on July 10, 2009 Quote: from Just Waiting Here at 10:26 am on July 10, 2009 I don't agree with your pro.       Con - The economy.  The fact that they may start a mandatory military draft for 18-24 year olds.  No free health care.       Pro - They don't put their milk in bags.       ---       Obviously there's more.  I don't mind living here, it's fine.  But the only distinct pro that could come to my head was the milk thing. Your cons are retarded. The economy is in a recession. It will get better.   There will be no draft.   And we already give to many free things away to people that dont deserve it Every country will have pros and cons, there's no such thing as perfect, obviously.  So how can cons, which are clearly something negative, be 'retarded'.  Just because there are other pros to back things up doesn't mean those other things are not cons. Because its like saying a con of Germany is the Nazi party. Its not going to matter. The last one is legit, though I dont agree. The draft will not happen. And the economy is going through its life. I cant see that as a con.   Basically its going to be things that wont matter in about a year. Of course, the draft probably won't happen (and it would only be like three months), but even still, it's a con.  It's not something good, even if it doesn't happen.  And the first, yeah, it may not matter in a year, but when it affects you it hurts you, and it's a con.  If you want to look long term, then you can.  But right now, it's undeniable that the economy (especially in this state) is a con for me at least.  The OP never stated that it was, "is being an American bad or good" or "Why does america suck"... so I'm merely putting points out there, which are negative. Long term, you're right, it won't matter.  But right now, it does, and in no way can I consider the economy a pro... so I set it as a con, because I'm also not thinking that I don't see it as good or bad. -- Posted by MushroomSatsujin at 11:04 am on July 10, 2009 Quote: from Just Waiting Here at 10:50 am on July 10, 2009 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 10:39 am on July 10, 2009 Quote: from Just Waiting Here at 10:35 am on July 10, 2009 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 10:28 am on July 10, 2009 Quote: from Just Waiting Here at 10:26 am on July 10, 2009 I don't agree with your pro.    Con - The economy. The fact that they may start a mandatory military draft for 18-24 year olds. No free health care.    Pro - They don't put their milk in bags.    ---    Obviously there's more. I don't mind living here, it's fine. But the only distinct pro that could come to my head was the milk thing. Your cons are retarded. The economy is in a recession. It will get better.       There will be no draft.       And we already give to many free things away to people that dont deserve it Every country will have pros and cons, there's no such thing as perfect, obviously. So how can cons, which are clearly something negative, be 'retarded'. Just because there are other pros to back things up doesn't mean those other things are not cons. Because its like saying a con of Germany is the Nazi party. Its not going to matter. The last one is legit, though I dont agree. The draft will not happen. And the economy is going through its life. I cant see that as a con.  Basically its going to be things that wont matter in about a year. Of course, the draft probably won't happen (and it would only be like three months), but even still, it's a con. It's not something good, even if it doesn't happen. And the first, yeah, it may not matter in a year, but when it affects you it hurts you, and it's a con. If you want to look long term, then you can. But right now, it's undeniable that the economy (especially in this state) is a con for me at least. The OP never stated that it was, "is being an American bad or good" or "Why does america suck"... so I'm merely putting points out there, which are negative. Long term, you're right, it won't matter. But right now, it does, and in no way can I consider the economy a pro... so I set it as a con, because I'm also not thinking that I don't see it as good or bad. I see it as there are many other major cons to focus on -- Posted by Just Waiting Here at 11:13 am on July 10, 2009 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 11:04 am on July 10, 2009 I see it as there are many other major cons to focus on Oh.  No, I definitely agree there are other major ones (and other major pros as opposed to having milk that's in cartons).  The one's I just stated literally have come up in conversation yesterday, so they were in my head.