-- Posted by Karate Stew at 7:50 pm on Sep. 10, 2005 Hey I've done some programming before but now I want to try some using java, so can anyone tell me what I need to download to get started and if anyone knows some good tutorial sites could you tell me them. Thanks -- Posted by rdmwildman at 8:20 pm on Sep. 10, 2005 Try going to www.compsci.ca they have a lot of tutorials and help on how to do it! -- Posted by Duekiller at 10:09 pm on Sep. 10, 2005 download the java sdk from www.java.sun.com JAVA SDK version 1.4.2 WITHOUT netbean then download a program called JBuilder and voila from there on its pretty simple -- Posted by squirellplayingtag at 4:12 pm on Sep. 11, 2005 I think your thinking of JCreator. -- Posted by pleaseremove at 2:24 pm on Sep. 12, 2005 i find bluej a nice place to start for a very very basic IDE -- Posted by sakurag at 3:45 pm on Sep. 12, 2005 I always used EditPlus for java. -- Posted by knotsotypikal at 9:34 pm on Sep. 12, 2005 Quote: from pleaseremove at 5:24 pm on Sep. 12, 2005 i find bluej a nice place to start for a very very basic IDE BlueJ is pretty basic, good for a beginner. I use Eclipse (www.eclipse.org). It's free, but it's a huge file. -- Posted by squirellplayingtag at 3:25 am on Sep. 13, 2005 Quote: from knotsotypikal at 12:34 am on Sep. 13, 2005 Quote: from pleaseremove at 5:24 pm on Sep. 12, 2005 i find bluej a nice place to start for a very very basic IDE BlueJ is pretty basic, good for a beginner. I use Eclipse (www.eclipse.org). It's free, but it's a huge file. I have eclipse downloaded and installed but I haven't used it yet. It's suppose to be very good but I haven't had a reason to use it yet. Well I have I've just been procrastinating on the whole project. -- Posted by pleaseremove at 5:40 am on Sep. 13, 2005 Ah yes, the 100MB of eclipse...plus whatever you want it to do. I got very fed up with it a while ago when it didn’t like my nice php library that I got for it... -- Posted by squirellplayingtag at 12:35 pm on Sep. 13, 2005 What I want is something like Visual Studio but for Java. They have Java Studio Creator by sun but it's not free and is only for making web apps which kinda blows.