Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 .. 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122  Next -- Posted by DayXTripper at 4:41 pm on Oct. 19, 2005 This is a topic that i see come up many times. I thought that maybe I could lend a hand in stopping the amount of abortion topics in here. Maybe a mod could sticky this? Below I have included a few definitions for those that are confused and links to different sites that take on the issue of abortion, read up if need be. These sites lay out the main ideas behind the opposing sides of pro-life and pro-choice. Abortion - Termination of pregnancy and expulsion of an embryo or of a fetus. Pro-life - Advocating full legal protection of human embryos or fetuses, especially by opposing legalized abortion Pro-choice - Favoring or supporting the legal right of women and girls to choose whether or not to continue a pregnancy to term. Pro-life argument Pro-Choice Argument (please note that it was much harder to find a pro-choice argument essay, if you know of a good website that outlines the arguments for or against abortion please PM and I shall add it to this list) if you are too lazy to read those full essays,then you can read the following summaries:Taken From Here Pro-Life - The strongest argument that the pro-lifers have, I believe, is that by aborting a fetus, you're destroying a sentient/conscious/self-aware human being. Is the fetus self-aware? One could argue that's not the case, but then you can proceed and ask is a month-old baby self-aware? One might also argue that a fetus is self-aware, in which case, killing it would certainly be tantamount to killing another human child, or even an adult for that matter, which again we do not have the choice to do so. Pro-Choice - The strongest argument the pro-choice people have, of course, is the issue of the right of a female to do whatever she wishes with her body. The fetus can be considered a parasite (and it is, in a sense) which can no longer be allowed to grow.But how would you account for the motions of the fetus? Is that purely reflexive? If so, as soon as a child is born, I'd argue a lot of what it does is purely reflexive. Let's end the abortion topics once and for all. and please, stay on topic. Please share your opinions and view-points of abortion. **Fixed tags**uscmedic (Edited by uscmedic at 8:37 pm on Oct. 19, 2005) -- Posted by audrey820 at 4:46 pm on Oct. 19, 2005 old opinion, quit quoting me -- Posted by Music of the Night at 4:47 pm on Oct. 19, 2005 I'm pro-choice. I'd rather people not have abortitions, but if it's outlawed people will try to do it themeselves or have it done illegaly. I also wouldn't like to have a child born into an abuse environment in which I/we couldn't escape.  If the mother is a young girl the prenancy could kill her, so abortion wouldn't bother me. For me there has to be a good reason.It's a womans body, but please people, birth control. (Edited by Music of the Night at 7:49 pm on Oct. 19, 2005) -- Posted by Dark Warrior Kid at 4:49 pm on Oct. 19, 2005 I'm pro choice all the way, its serioulsy a girls choice and not a guys but if I have to choose I'm pro choice, you can be all pro-life but its dealing with a life that has already started and a life that is only just a thought. -- Posted by olen katelynn at 4:50 pm on Oct. 19, 2005 I'm pro-choice... -- Posted by MzBabiiPrinzess at 5:12 pm on Oct. 19, 2005 I'm pro-choice.  I think if a woman was raped or something similar I wouldn't want to go through 9 months of carrying something that made me hate myself.  The health issue--if she was going to die.  Or if she couldn't support it, there was no way she could make enough money...  Lastly, shit happens, I know ppl on the pill and the condom and still got pregnant.  Only one couple but yes, it can happen. -- Posted by LegolasLover at 5:41 pm on Oct. 19, 2005 Pro-life -- Posted by WaterNymph at 9:37 pm on Oct. 19, 2005 I think the only time I'm against abortion is when someone is giving it up because they're not "financially stable" or they don't "want it". There's a lot of people who can't have kids and want them. But, if the pregnancy poses a health concern, or the women was raped, etc, then I'm all for it. -- Posted by sugar stick 100 at 10:07 pm on Oct. 19, 2005 for me I dont know which way to go because in Shouthe Africa it is iligal to have a abortion after 3 months because then you r killing a life,but then you get all these mothers leaving there babys abd going off.So for me I should think that abortion is rong because of my religon but I realy dont at all it is all up to the mother -- Posted by jesusatemeout at 10:53 pm on Oct. 19, 2005 i am absolutely pro-choice. i don't care what the reason for terminating the pregnancy is. although i frown on people who just get pregnant over and over and don't even bother with birth control because "i can always get an abortion", i support their right to do so. STRONGLY. -- Posted by Dr Lingus at 1:32 am on Oct. 20, 2005 Also worth mentioning: Do your veiws on abortion change if the life of the mother is put into jeopardy (health-wise)? -- Posted by johnlover2006 at 5:41 am on Oct. 20, 2005 why have an abortion? if u can up ur legs u should take what might come out. with an abortion u have a 50 50% of getting pergant again. -- Posted by myystic at 5:51 am on Oct. 20, 2005 Pro-choice. You try telling a raped woman that she has to keep, feed, support, nurture and love a child she never wanted. All on her own. -- Posted by Lynne16 at 7:08 am on Oct. 20, 2005 i am pro-choice   -- Posted by JennyColada at 8:38 am on Oct. 20, 2005 Heh, I was about to reply to what someone said in here, but I decided to not turn this into yet another debate topic. I'm pro-choice. If the people involved in the pregnancy believe that abortion (or adoption, or keeping the child) is the best choice for them then so be it. I support them 100%. I do not, however, support the decisions of people that are made based on what others want them to do, based on them having lack of information for any other choice, etc. I do agree that they have their right to make that decision though. -- Posted by Glow Worm at 12:43 pm on Oct. 20, 2005 Pro choice. If someone wants an abortion then someone wants an abortion, they obviously have good reason to want it. If someone thinks abortion is wrong, then no one is forcing them to have one. -- Posted by pan at 8:59 pm on Oct. 20, 2005 I'm Pro-Choice all the way. It's the woman's decision, possibly her familie's, NOT the doctors, not the fool government, not some strangers whom she's never met, not some religious fanatics, HER'S. As long as the abortion is done in a certain time (before 3 months), and properly. There are so many reason's why a woman shouldn't have to be forced to have her baby: rape, incest, she's not fully capable (Including money, and mental/physical health), or she doesn't want it, and many more reasons too I'm sure. -- Posted by Redstar7 at 12:19 am on Oct. 21, 2005 Quote: from myystic at 5:51 am on Oct. 20, 2005 Pro-choice. You try telling a raped woman that she has to keep, feed, support, nurture and love a child she never wanted. All on her own. You can't assume she'd do it alone just because she was raped. And, no one would be forcing her to keep the child. Personally, I'm pro-life. -- Posted by sara jane at 8:33 am on Oct. 21, 2005 i totally believe we should have a choice wheteher we kep it or not i personally couldnt get rid of it but we should be allowed to decide ourselves -- Posted by abspwnsyou at 7:38 pm on Oct. 21, 2005 Also need to debunk many myths surrounding the issue. My favorite has to be the whole 'my body, my choice' crap. The body of your child isn't the same as yours, separate and unique DNA is found in the child that isn't your DNA.  The choice made upon your body is that of having sex, and the circumstances in which you choose to have sex. Then you also have the liberals always attempting to cling to rape to justify abortion.  Thing is that rape isn't even 1% of the abortions that occur.  Also I don't personally know of anyone who is trying to make abortion due to rape illegal, yet liberals are constantly trying to use rape as a justification for dumb sluts to get abortion. The vast majority of the people who want abortion to be illegal also understand that there are execptions to every rule.  Rape is a serious issue and should be given special circumstances.  From a moral standpoint I do not agree with aborting these children, but I do understand the justification behind it (especially since your choice to have sex was taken away from you) and believe that it should be legal.   Also serious medical issues should be a reason for abortion.  If the child is going to be born dead, or the birth will kill the mother, then the mother shouldn't be forced to choose her life over that of the child.   There should also be an exemption to this rule as well, there should be a punishment for those who willingly/intentionally get pregnant while they have a condition that will keep them from giving birth.  If you already know that it will kill you, then why intentionally set yourself up for it?  If you wish to continue having sex and your condition is one that cannot be resolved in the near future, then get your reproductive organs removed. To just murder your children simply because you aren't financially stable or you just don't want them, should be a criminal offense.  If you did not wish to have those children, then you could have either not had sex or had your reproductive organs removed.  You made a concious decision to have sex, thus you should be held accountable for the outcome of your choice. -- Posted by hannahlue22 at 9:15 pm on Oct. 21, 2005 god has a plan for everyone... killin someone is murder a deadly sin... no time is it evr right.... you made to decision to have sex take the responsabilty -- Posted by hellsangel3313 at 4:04 pm on Oct. 22, 2005 i hate abortion, if the woman has sex and gets pregnant, i think its rlly her fault n she should keep the baby herself and sooner or later will learn to love it, ha how do you think i came into this world? -- Posted by LinZ at 6:32 pm on Oct. 22, 2005 I'm pro-choice. I believe that a woman has the right to decide whether or not she wants to give birth to a child. I know a lot of people argue that rape victims should definitely have a choice, and I believe someone said this already, but I doubt that a vast majority of women getting abortions are rape victims. Victims of rape, if given medical treatment soon enough, are given emergency contraception to prevent unwanted pregnancy. I know there is a failure rate of the morning-after pill, but it's effective in about 90% of those who take it. Soooo, I think it would be safe to say that very few women have abortions as a result of rape. If a woman is put at risk during pregnancy due to complications, she should have the right to choose. Also, I believe that if a couple is responsible about having sex and use at least 2 forms of protection in an attempt to prevent pregnancy, the woman should also have a choice then. True enough, she could very well have used the protection incorrectly, but in the event that the methods of contraception fail and she conceives, she should be able to decide if she wants a child at that time in her life or not. -- Posted by myystic at 12:03 am on Oct. 23, 2005 Quote: from Redstar7 at 7:19 pm on Oct. 21, 2005 And, no one would be forcing her to keep the child. But should she have to go through all the banalities of putting the child up for adoption (or whatever path she chooses for it) simply because we believe that the "sanctity of life" (in this case; parasitic, unwanted life) overpowers all other impacts on the situation? Since when did the unborn, incapable child have more rights than the woman giving birth to it? However, I also agree with a lot of what abs said. Abortion should, perhaps, be left as a patch over the gaping wound of rape or the fleeting smirk of a serious medical ramification. But everyone can always lie, and say that they were raped, and this would supposedly justify their choice. However, we must recognise that a lot of people wont care. If we ban abortion, we're going to see a lot of people going to back to the days of backyard abortions - and people accidently ruining their reproductive organs with coathangers is not something a social environment really appreciates. It's tricky. -- Posted by abspwnsyou at 7:25 am on Oct. 23, 2005 Killing theirselves or destroying their reproductive organs via illegal abortions would only be benifitting the gene pool. Also, if you made it to where you had to prove rape to get an abortion, then you would also be able to put stricter punishments on sluts who just bang guys then cry rape just because they regret having sex with them or something. -- Posted by tikkiiman at 8:08 am on Oct. 23, 2005 im with some of the others if you r raped then i think it should done if thats what they want but otherwise nah not unless theres a really good reason peace -- Posted by CMG1987 at 8:58 am on Oct. 23, 2005 I'm pro-life. -- Posted by Melissa16 at 12:02 pm on Oct. 23, 2005 pro choice -- Posted by mhsplainsmen442 at 8:44 pm on Oct. 23, 2005 Pro-Life Abortion is murder beyond belief so im way against it. -- Posted by Energizer Rabit at 3:43 pm on Oct. 24, 2005 Quote: from abspwnsyou at 7:38 pm on Oct. 21, 2005 Also need to debunk many myths surrounding the issue. My favorite has to be the whole 'my body, my choice' crap. The body of your child isn't the same as yours, separate and unique DNA is found in the child that isn't your DNA.  The choice made upon your body is that of having sex, and the circumstances in which you choose to have sex. Then you also have the liberals always attempting to cling to rape to justify abortion.  Thing is that rape isn't even 1% of the abortions that occur.  Also I don't personally know of anyone who is trying to make abortion due to rape illegal, yet liberals are constantly trying to use rape as a justification for dumb sluts to get abortion. The vast majority of the people who want abortion to be illegal also understand that there are execptions to every rule.  Rape is a serious issue and should be given special circumstances.  From a moral standpoint I do not agree with aborting these children, but I do understand the justification behind it (especially since your choice to have sex was taken away from you) and believe that it should be legal.   Also serious medical issues should be a reason for abortion.  If the child is going to be born dead, or the birth will kill the mother, then the mother shouldn't be forced to choose her life over that of the child.   There should also be an exemption to this rule as well, there should be a punishment for those who willingly/intentionally get pregnant while they have a condition that will keep them from giving birth.  If you already know that it will kill you, then why intentionally set yourself up for it?  If you wish to continue having sex and your condition is one that cannot be resolved in the near future, then get your reproductive organs removed. To just murder your children simply because you aren't financially stable or you just don't want them, should be a criminal offense.  If you did not wish to have those children, then you could have either not had sex or had your reproductive organs removed.  You made a concious decision to have sex, thus you should be held accountable for the outcome of your choice. . The ONLY thing I disagree with you on this issue, is the governments control over the issue. I think that once the government gets involved it will be way too close to I-Robot. The best way to stop abortions would be to stop people from having sex, and I really don't want the government to tell me or anyone else who I can and cannot have sex with. If people would just own up to their own decisions on thier own it would make things so much easier. So I'd prefer people to battle it out here, rather than wait for them to try and ban sex. Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 .. 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122  Next