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-- Posted by kira at 3:42 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
I just spoke with David and learned that the Support Leader demotions are not reversible and thus everybody must reapply. I know many of you are going to complain and bitch about this but there is really no point in doing that. Absolutely nothing can be done ti change anything. In fact, we see this as a positive opportunity for LiveWire. With all the current updates, the job of Support Leaders has become more important. In the eHelp system there is no way to hid or take back a comment sent by a Support Leader like there was in the Serious Forum. In addition, Support Leaders are now part of the Novice mentor system. In this role they must answer questions and be welcoming whenever they are approached by a new member. They cannot simply chose when they feel like giving a helpful reply and when they just want to click "read" and let somebody else deal with the problem. Also there is no way to monitor their interaction with new members. Because of these reasons it is important that only the most helpful members are accepted. Moderators will be reviewing applications with these changes in mind. We do not expect you to have 10 new helpful links from the past 24 hr so you may use old links. However, some of them should be recent. - We will not accept applications that simply say, "I was a support leader before, give me back my status." - You must submit an application with helpful post links and an explanation as to why you want to be a Support Leader. (Edited by kira at 3:51 pm on Nov. 6, 2005) (Edited by kira at 4:05 pm on Nov. 6, 2005)
-- Posted by audrey820 at 3:45 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
I was never demoted, do you still want me to send in another application? Edit: I'm an idiot, disregard this post. I can't reapply if I was never demoted. Next time I'll think before I post. Thanks for the update! (Edited by audrey820 at 6:48 pm on Nov. 6, 2005)
-- Posted by S3b7 at 3:45 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Well thanks, better get started.
-- Posted by tigerdude16 at 3:46 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Thanks for explaining it Kira!
-- Posted by RyGuy at 3:48 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Quote: from kira at 5:42 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
In addition, Support Leaders are not part of the Novice mentor system.
I'm assuming you meant "Support Leaders are now part..." Just making sure.
-- Posted by kira at 3:51 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Quote: from RyGuy at 3:48 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Quote: from kira at 5:42 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
In addition, Support Leaders are not part of the Novice mentor system.
I'm assuming you meant "Support Leaders are now part..." Just making sure. 
Yes fixed now... oops
-- Posted by WigAOK9 at 3:54 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Quote: from audrey820 at 3:45 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
I was never demoted, do you still want me to send in another application? Edit: I'm an idiot, disregard this post. I can't reapply if I was never demoted. Next time I'll think before I post. Thanks for the update! (Edited by audrey820 at 6:48 pm on Nov. 6, 2005) 
I can demote you if you want to re-apply like most everyone else. :-P
-- Posted by audrey820 at 3:56 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Quote: from WigAOK9 at 6:54 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Quote: from audrey820 at 3:45 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
I was never demoted, do you still want me to send in another application? Edit: I'm an idiot, disregard this post. I can't reapply if I was never demoted. Next time I'll think before I post. Thanks for the update! (Edited by audrey820 at 6:48 pm on Nov. 6, 2005) 
I can demote you if you want to re-apply like most everyone else. :-P
Only if you want to spend time reviewing yet another application... By the time this is over you're going to never want to see another support leader application again. Good luck keeping your sanity.
-- Posted by nycboy9114 at 3:59 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Thank you kira for an explaination.
-- Posted by ManicDepressant at 4:19 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Cheers for the update, i have indeed resubmitted an application. when i did it first time you only had to provide links, now we have to write about why aswell, things keep changing!!! well, good luck with 5,000 support leader applications!!! ManicD
-- Posted by Music of the Night at 4:40 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Yay Mod Team! You all deserve a cookie! Except..I don't have any cookies, so you all can have some nachos instead. Or wild rice. Sorting through those applications isn't gonna be fun, is it? Thanks for the update!
-- Posted by Amphigory at 4:42 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
I plan on resubmitting a new one soon. It's been some time since I was a support leader, so I think its about time to do my part.
-- Posted by Mighty Angel at 4:50 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Quote: from Amphigory at 8:42 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
I plan on resubmitting a new one soon. It's been some time since I was a support leader, so I think its about time to do my part.
Kale it would be a good idea that you submit one now seeing that they may not reconise you and give you the support leaders status. Then you can apply for Mod status
-- Posted by audrey820 at 4:52 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Quote: from Mighty Angel at 7:50 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Quote: from Amphigory at 8:42 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
I plan on resubmitting a new one soon. It's been some time since I was a support leader, so I think its about time to do my part.
Kale it would be a good idea that you submit one now seeing that they may not reconise you and give you the support leaders status. Then you can apply for Mod status 
Wow, rude to people much?
-- Posted by ManicDepressant at 5:00 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Quote: from audrey820 at 12:52 am on Nov. 7, 2005
Quote: from Mighty Angel at 7:50 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Quote: from Amphigory at 8:42 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
I plan on resubmitting a new one soon. It's been some time since I was a support leader, so I think its about time to do my part.
Kale it would be a good idea that you submit one now seeing that they may not reconise you and give you the support leaders status. Then you can apply for Mod status 
Wow, rude to people much? 
wow, nice lil hidden text there!!! dont, worry the mods are checking every app carefully, i had mine rejected cause i couldnt be bothered to keep looking and put a not very good link in. scott caught me so i had to replace it. Grrrrr.....LOL ManicD (Edited by ManicDepressant at 1:01 am on Nov. 7, 2005)
-- Posted by Mighty Angel at 5:02 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Quote: from audrey820 at 8:52 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Quote: from Mighty Angel at 7:50 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Quote: from Amphigory at 8:42 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
I plan on resubmitting a new one soon. It's been some time since I was a support leader, so I think its about time to do my part.
Kale it would be a good idea that you submit one now seeing that they may not reconise you and give you the support leaders status. Then you can apply for Mod status 
Wow, rude to people much? 
Audrey could you explain to me how I was being rude.
-- Posted by Amphigory at 5:03 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
He was joking audrey. And yes, once I get support leader status I will pass the mod test with flying colors. Oh yeah!
-- Posted by audrey820 at 5:08 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
I'm in a bad, not joking mood. You'll get over it.
-- Posted by Mighty Angel at 5:08 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Quote: from Amphigory at 9:03 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
He was joking audrey. And yes, once I get support leader status I will pass the mod test with flying colors. Oh yeah! 
I can't help but laugh. I have resubmitted my Support Leader's apllication Just waiting.
-- Posted by Amphigory at 5:13 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Quote: from Mighty Angel at 5:08 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Quote: from Amphigory at 9:03 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
He was joking audrey. And yes, once I get support leader status I will pass the mod test with flying colors. Oh yeah! 
I can't help but laugh. 
Hey I ALMOST passed it like a year ago. I think I was just short of a few questions, like one or two.
-- Posted by Mighty Angel at 5:15 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Scott rejected my application. 2nd time for the day.
-- Posted by Amphigory at 5:19 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Quote: from Mighty Angel at 5:15 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Scott rejected my application. 2nd time for the day. 
Whoa, is scott the only person looking at applications right now? Cause if he is, then I will wait a few days and when he is offline. Give's me a better chance.
-- Posted by Mighty Angel at 5:20 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Quote: from Amphigory at 9:19 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Quote: from Mighty Angel at 5:15 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Scott rejected my application. 2nd time for the day. 
Whoa, is scott the only person looking at applications right now? Cause if he is, then I will wait a few days and when he is offline. Give's me a better chance. 
LOL maybe I should also do that.
-- Posted by Music of the Night at 5:27 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
How do you know it was Scott?
-- Posted by Music of the Night at 5:28 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Whoa! 105 new eHelp messages. Either this is a bug, or while we didn't have any support leaders people really needed advice.
-- Posted by Amphigory at 5:29 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Quote: from Music of the Night at 5:28 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Whoa! 105 new eHelp messages. Either this is a bug, or while we didn't have any support leaders people really needed advice.
Haha, do any of them have replys? If not, then I'm guessing this is not a glitch.
-- Posted by Music of the Night at 5:34 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Quote: from Amphigory at 8:29 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Quote: from Music of the Night at 5:28 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Whoa! 105 new eHelp messages. Either this is a bug, or while we didn't have any support leaders people really needed advice.
Haha, do any of them have replys? If not, then I'm guessing this is not a glitch. 
They all have replies, and some "new" ones date back to 9.27.05 Umm....there is no way I can answer all these.
-- Posted by Amphigory at 5:37 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Quote: from Music of the Night at 5:34 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Quote: from Amphigory at 8:29 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Quote: from Music of the Night at 5:28 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Whoa! 105 new eHelp messages. Either this is a bug, or while we didn't have any support leaders people really needed advice.
Haha, do any of them have replys? If not, then I'm guessing this is not a glitch. 
They all have replies, and some "new" ones date back to 9.27.05 Umm....there is no way I can answer all these. 
It's a glitch. I remember back in the day when that happened. i had 75 "new" e-helps. I was like, "well fuck I have to wait for that to get fixed." 2 hours later it got fixed but my eyes hurt cause of the flashy thingy. I later learned after that day you could turn it off.
-- Posted by Mighty Angel at 5:41 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
Quote: from Music of the Night at 9:27 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
How do you know it was Scott? 
Because he was the last active Moderator. All the others did do anything for like 5 minutes.
-- Posted by spam1989 at 11:33 pm on Nov. 6, 2005
hang on...when i rad this topic, about 20 minutes ago, i had my support leader status, and i still do. is this because i had already reapplied yesterday when it wasnt found yet that it was a bug??? hope that makes sense! T :)
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