-- Posted by timize at 5:18 pm on June 30, 2006 I have a slight suspicion that four recent eHelp requests were made to spite LiveWire. Do I just contact a moderator about it? -- Posted by sexyboy13 at 5:20 pm on June 30, 2006 I just seen those. I think they weren't really needing help, I think they were just fooling around with the system... -- Posted by Mysterious at 5:21 pm on June 30, 2006 I just noticed that, i deleted one of the ehelps as the content wasn't acceptable for the ehelp center We can't do anything, it was a guest that sent the ehelps in. We can only delete them. -- Posted by Roy at 5:21 pm on June 30, 2006 I got the exact same feeling. I voted to delete 1 of them, but by the time I hit it, it was gone already. I think it would be best to answer the questions anyhow. If it's a joke, then no big deal. -- Posted by barnabas at 5:22 pm on June 30, 2006 you can suggest that we delete it..(there should be a little button to click when you read the post) otherwise..can we trace annonymous Ehelp? isnt that the point  of it being annonymous? i know which ones you are talking about..and i agree -- Posted by Mysterious at 5:23 pm on June 30, 2006 They are called anonymous Ehelps for a reason. -- Posted by Rhapsody at 5:23 pm on June 30, 2006 Who are we as Support Leaders to determine if someone really needs help or not. If you feel that they were made out of spite don't reply to them and leave them alone. For all you know that person could be serious and to me they seem legit and I don't see any bloody reason for them to be removed. I am tired of you power hungry support leaders removing what in my opinion are perfectly legit ehelp request. -- Posted by timize at 5:23 pm on June 30, 2006 Quote: from sexyboy13 at 8:20 pm on June 30, 2006 I just seen those. I think they weren't really needing help, I think they were just fooling around with the system... That's what I was thinkng, considering that those four requests were made in less than five minutes apart. -- Posted by Mysterious at 5:24 pm on June 30, 2006 Quote: from Rhapsody at 1:23 am on July 1, 2006 Who are we as Support Leaders to determine if someone really needs help or not. If you feel that they were made out of spite don't reply to them and leave them alone. For all you know that person could be serious and to me they seem legit and I don't see any bloody reason for them to be removed.   I am tired of you power hungry support leaders removing what in my opinion are perfectly legit ehelp request. Rhapsody, he had every right to ask, 4 ehelps had been sent in within the space of a few minutes. Also an ehelp being sent in asking if anyone wants to buy their car, i think i can safely say that indicates some one who does not need help and is abusing the system Regarding the other ehelps being sent in, support leaders have replied to them already, and no one is to say that they aren't real, if you wish to reply then by all means do so. (Edited by Mysterious at 1:25 am on July 1, 2006) -- Posted by The Oath at 5:24 pm on June 30, 2006 Moderators see them too, they'll delete them. If it's bothering you that much, vote to delete them. I find them amusing, in an immature, stupid sort of way. -- Posted by sexyboy13 at 5:25 pm on June 30, 2006 Quote: from timize at 8:23 pm on June 30, 2006 Quote: from sexyboy13 at 8:20 pm on June 30, 2006 I just seen those. I think they weren't really needing help, I think they were just fooling around with the system... That's what I was thinkng, considering that those four requests were made in less than five minutes apart. And all four were kind of the same sized paragragh. Short. -- Posted by xestrangedx at 5:26 pm on June 30, 2006 Yes iv noticed that the past few topics kind of sound like spam. With the little detail and all. I voted to delete one or two of them. That really annoys me. -- Posted by Rhapsody at 5:26 pm on June 30, 2006 Quote: from Mysterious at 8:24 pm on June 30, 2006 Quote: from Rhapsody at 1:23 am on July 1, 2006 Who are we as Support Leaders to determine if someone really needs help or not. If you feel that they were made out of spite don't reply to them and leave them alone. For all you know that person could be serious and to me they seem legit and I don't see any bloody reason for them to be removed.   I am tired of you power hungry support leaders removing what in my opinion are perfectly legit ehelp request. Rhapsody, he had every right to ask, 4 ehelps had been sent in within the space of a few minutes. Also an ehelp being sent in asking if anyone wants to buy their car, i think i can safely say that indicates some one who does not need help and is abusing the system   (Edited by Mysterious at 1:24 am on July 1, 2006) I never said that he had no right to ask a damn question. Okay, the ehelp about the car can safely be removed as it does not belong in there. I did not see that one. Sorry but I am just extremely angry about this whole thing about support leaders voting and removing legit ehelps. -- Posted by timize at 5:27 pm on June 30, 2006 Quote: from Rhapsody at 8:23 pm on June 30, 2006 Who are we as Support Leaders to determine if someone really needs help or not. If you feel that they were made out of spite don't reply to them and leave them alone. For all you know that person could be serious and to me they seem legit and I don't see any bloody reason for them to be removed.   I am tired of you power hungry support leaders removing what in my opinion are perfectly legit ehelp request. I don't like your tone in your post. I am not, by no means, a "power-hungry" support leader. I applied for the position to be a support leader for a reason: to help fellow teens and peers with issues and problems that I have gone through, and you calling me a "power-hungry" support leader hurts my feelings. I put deep thought into every one of my eHelp responses, and by you threatening me like that is just utter arrogance. I have done NOTHING to those eHelp requests. That's why I decided to start a topic in this forum asking for help because, obviously, I have never encountered such a problem before. I may be fairly new to LiveWire, be a new support leader, and not have completed as many eHelp requests as you have, but there is no justification on WHY you had to call me a power hungry support leader. I'm sorry, but your post ticked me off so much, I had to reply. (Edited by timize at 8:29 pm on June 30, 2006) (Edited by timize at 8:30 pm on June 30, 2006) -- Posted by Mysterious at 5:30 pm on June 30, 2006 timize don't worry about it, there was nothing wrong for asking the question as i am sure there were plenty of other support leaders thinking the same thing. And rhapsody, who are you to determine what a "legit" ehelp is? He said he had a slight suspcision, you should be careful before you start to make assumptions. (Edited by Mysterious at 1:30 am on July 1, 2006) -- Posted by Roy at 5:30 pm on June 30, 2006 Ok kiddies, let's not get to flaming. It's over, the eHelps stopped, answer what's left, and move on with your lives. -- Posted by Rhapsody at 5:32 pm on June 30, 2006 Quote: from timize at 8:27 pm on June 30, 2006 Quote: from Rhapsody at 8:23 pm on June 30, 2006 Who are we as Support Leaders to determine if someone really needs help or not. If you feel that they were made out of spite don't reply to them and leave them alone. For all you know that person could be serious and to me they seem legit and I don't see any bloody reason for them to be removed.   I am tired of you power hungry support leaders removing what in my opinion are perfectly legit ehelp request. I don't like your tone in your post. I am not, by no means, a "power-hungry" support leader. I applied for the position to be a support leader for a reason: to help fellow teens and peers with issues and problems that I have gone through, and you calling me a "power-hungry" support leader hurts my feelings. I put deep thought into every one of my eHelp responses, and by you threatening me like that is just utter arrogance. I have done NOTHING to those eHelp requests. That's why I decided to start a topic in this forum asking for help because, obviously, I have never encountered such a problem before. I may be new to LiveWire and a be a new support leader, but there is no justification on WHY you had to call me a power hungry support leader. I'm sorry, but your post ticked me off so much, I had to reply. (Edited by timize at 8:29 pm on June 30, 2006) I apologise for my tone in that post, but I am honestly  tired of replying to perfectly legit ehelps and by the time I hit send reply, I get the error message saying that the ehelp has been removed. This sort of thing discourages one from replying to ehelps. BTW none of my post targeted anyone. -- Posted by Enzeru at 5:34 pm on June 30, 2006 Maybe Davjs, should make it to where 3 Support Leaders can vote it off but at least one Moderator has to agree... more like over rule it. -- Posted by Rhapsody at 5:40 pm on June 30, 2006 Quote: from Mysterious at 8:30 pm on June 30, 2006 And rhapsody, who are you to determine what a "legit" ehelp is? He said he had a slight suspcision, you should be careful before you start to make assumptions. You do realise that I said, what in 'my opinion' is a legit ehelp. Then again my opinion doesn't count. I apologise for my tone and the generalisations that I made in my first post in this topic. -- Posted by Roy at 5:41 pm on June 30, 2006 Quote: from Enzeru at 8:34 pm on June 30, 2006 Maybe Davjs, should make it to where 3 Support Leaders can vote it off but at least one Moderator has to agree... more like over rule it. I completely agree. -- Posted by Mysterious at 5:43 pm on June 30, 2006 Quote: from Enzeru at 1:34 am on July 1, 2006 Maybe Davjs, should make it to where 3 Support Leaders can vote it off but at least one Moderator has to agree... more like over rule it. I agree, i think that is a good suggestion. -- Posted by Rhapsody at 5:45 pm on June 30, 2006 Quote: from Roy at 8:41 pm on June 30, 2006 Quote: from Enzeru at 8:34 pm on June 30, 2006 Maybe Davjs, should make it to where 3 Support Leaders can vote it off but at least one Moderator has to agree... more like over rule it. I completely agree. I suggested it in another topic this forum, that either it should require at least one moderator vote or that it should be more like the voting system for denial of services so that you could actually vote against the removal of the ehelp. But to some Support leaders it was "a waste of unnecessary steps". So I propose that the feature for support leaders should be removed and replaced with a Report button, which would allow us to contact a moderator about it. -- Posted by Roy at 5:49 pm on June 30, 2006 OK. That post was directed at a specific person. Me. Yes, that was my position on the issue yesterday, but there seems to be too much bullshit flying around the subject of deleting eHelps, so I've changed my mind. Mod's can take care of it. They did before we could vote to delete, so what's changed? -- Posted by katyduck at 5:53 pm on June 30, 2006 LW's worked fine with mods deleting eHelps up until now, I don't see why anything had to change. It's only being abused. -- Posted by Enzeru at 5:57 pm on June 30, 2006 The problem is, who are we to call something an emergency? Who are we to say what is and is not an emergency in someone's life? Sure, some things are not die hard emergencies, but as long as it is not complete B.S., don't vote it off! I think we should make a definition a lot more elaborate on what Ehelp is, and the different situations, and scenarios there are. For instance if someone makes an Ehelp about them never being able to orgasm, when having sex with their boyfriend. That could effect someone mentally, and physically. Therefore, it seems to be an emergency. They could be thinking they can lose their boyfriend, never enjoy sex again, and other things. -- Posted by dovelove at 6:24 pm on June 30, 2006 Quote: from katyduck at 8:53 pm on June 30, 2006 LW's worked fine with mods deleting eHelps up until now, I don't see why anything had to change. It's only being abused. Thank you. I really think that this new system is causing more trouble than it's worth. I don't think that Support Leaders are "power-hungry" per se, but I definitely think that some ehelps are being deleted that are perfectly acceptable (I'm not talking about the one's tonight, I haven't seen those. I'm talking about one's made in the past that I have seen deleted by Support Leaders). There is obviously disagreement over what consitutes an acceptable ehelp, and I really think that the mod's should be the one's to decide what's acceptable and what's not. And guys, remember to not make this personal. We don't need to bicker over these things. You guys are Support Leaders, post with maturity and try not to target other people. Be the bigger person and just let it go, or take it to messages. -- Posted by insertnamehere at 12:25 am on July 1, 2006 Given the amount of grief and incorrect eHelps being deleted, it would seem easier just to scrap the new system and replace it with a report button. At the very least, accountability is needed. And stop making it personal. It's all rather ironic that support leaders chosen for emotional maturity are being reduced to making everything offensive, personal mudslinging. You can make a point civilly. And if you feel yourself getting unduly angry, then take a step away from the computer. Please.