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-- Posted by penguincube at 1:02 pm on Aug. 21, 2006
Hello, As you may know if you have been keeping up with the LiveZilla updates, your Intellectual Test applications, if you pass the multiple choice section, are now graded by a moderator based on a free-response section. The following are the REQUIRED COMPONENTS of an Intellectual Test free response in order to have your application accepted. The free response counts for about 80% of your grade, with the multiple choice consisting of the other 20% These rules were written by myself, penguincube, and approved by davjs, LiveWire Administrator (minor changes may be made, but this is largely final). The requirements are also available to view in this FAQ: http://www.golivewire.com/forums/faq.cgi?action=read&id=58088 and will be added in a link to the Intellectual Test very soon. This feature is very new, and I am aware that some applicants were accepted today before these guidelines were implemented. I apologize about this, but rest assured that, we rejected more applications than we accepted today, and therefore most applicants were at least somewhat qualified. If you do not already know, the Intellectual Test is an exam on LiveWire that allows you to post in our Intellectual Forum, and gives you a symbol in your public profile indicative of your status. You can find the test here: http://www.golivewire.com/forums/intellectualtest.cgi ______________________________________________ The free response portion of the Test is to show us that you qualify to be designated to be an Intellectual by demonstrating your ability to write in a coherent manner and to discuss topics that are of interest to the Intellectual Forum. SUGGESTED LENGTH: 200-500 WORDS (not including characters and/or spaces) Grammatical Requisite: Your response should contain flawless grammar, syntax and conventions. This is including but not limited to the following. * Using proper sentences that are complete and not run-on. Varying your sentence structure so that your response is not monotonic. * Proper capitalization and punctuation is a must. * Your response must be coherent, meaning that the main idea should come across with little to no effort by the test grader. * You should demonstrate your ability to distinguish between words such as "their" "they're" and "there" as well as be able to use consistency in your tense (past, present, or future) and use proper subject/verb agreement (common example: when referring to one person, that person is "he" or "she" NOT "they") * Your reply should be fun to read, interesting, and should stand out from what you think the rest of the members are submitting! Content Requisites: You should include at least two (or more!) of the following subjects in your response to demonstrate your interest in discussing Intellectual Forum topics. * Why you wish to be promoted to Intellectual status, what prompted you to take the test, and why you think that the moderator grading your test should upgrade your account. * A current event that is occurring in the world at this point in time, your well-developed opinion on this event, and its effects on the world at large. * Describe an area of study that interests you greatly, whether it be from school (physics, English, mass media) or from personal studies (Web design, photography). Explain the reason for your interest in this field and use your powers of explanation to teach us something about this field. * Do you think that there is such a thing as an unselfish action? Why or why not? * Tell us an anecdotal story about your life. This particular piece should be used to demonstrate your exceptional writing skills, so please be sure to use very lively, colorful, and exciting language to impress your test grader. You can include any other subject or topic that you wish to discuss above and beyond what is listed here in order to make your response both of quality and quantity as long as you think that including it will convince us that you should be upgraded to intellectual status. ________________________________________ Thank you, penguincube LiveWire Staff Intellectual Forum Moderator
-- Posted by 32ROB32 at 1:05 pm on Aug. 21, 2006
thats gay...i just did that and now ur telling me that i didnt do my response well enough grrr
-- Posted by Mezzanine at 1:05 pm on Aug. 21, 2006
Bleh, it probably says this somewhere, but do the people that have passed the old intellectual test have to resit the new one?
-- Posted by ipiratewaffles at 1:05 pm on Aug. 21, 2006
This doesn't apply to existing Intellectuals, does it?
-- Posted by penguincube at 1:07 pm on Aug. 21, 2006
Existing intellectuals do not have to re-take the test.
-- Posted by Link01 at 1:09 pm on Aug. 21, 2006
ok
-- Posted by ipiratewaffles at 1:10 pm on Aug. 21, 2006
Quote: from penguincube at 4:07 pm on Aug. 21, 2006
Existing intellectuals do not have to re-take the test.
Thanks <3
-- Posted by osmoticdespair at 1:11 pm on Aug. 21, 2006
Quote: from penguincube at 9:07 pm on Aug. 21, 2006
Existing intellectuals do not have to re-take the test.
haha fools, I so woulda failed anything that took account of spelling\grammer\coherancy
-- Posted by penguincube at 1:12 pm on Aug. 21, 2006
Quote: from osmoticdespair at 4:11 pm on Aug. 21, 2006
Quote: from penguincube at 9:07 pm on Aug. 21, 2006
Existing intellectuals do not have to re-take the test.
haha fools, I so woulda failed anything that took account of spelling\grammer\coherancy
Yes, I remember your signature from a while back concerning proper spelling.
-- Posted by x FENRIS x at 1:14 pm on Aug. 21, 2006
It sounds like a cool idea, Penguincube. I like the idea of this extended response part. As long as the mods don't mind marking them, and scoring people accordingly, then it seems like a good idea. I can't help but foresee more complaints. This may sound like a stupid question, but "what is intelligence?". I suppose that you're still not really marking that, on it's own, but with grammar, and creativity intertwined.
-- Posted by HazelEyes at 1:16 pm on Aug. 21, 2006
Crap...I already took the test and failed because I didn't know the requirements.I only wrote about 3 lines... ...aww well next time I'll know.
-- Posted by Kuzaki at 1:19 pm on Aug. 21, 2006
Quote: from penguincube at 9:07 pm on Aug. 21, 2006
Existing intellectuals do not have to re-take the test.
We probably should have to though. Anybody can do well on a multi-choice test if they learn the answers. The writing tests are a true test of intelligence and coherency.
-- Posted by penguincube at 1:22 pm on Aug. 21, 2006
Kuzaki, that is an interesting proposition but is ultimatley up to David. I have fixed the typographical error in my post that was pointed out.
-- Posted by x FENRIS x at 1:26 pm on Aug. 21, 2006
I doubt that existing intellectuals would have to re-take the test. It would mean that David, and the mods would have to submit an entry again in order to post there, but may not have the time. I'm sure that many would rise to the challenge. I have edited my post so that that typo is (more or less) stricken from the record.
-- Posted by psychopathic doggie at 1:26 pm on Aug. 21, 2006
Weeeee... I will take this tonight and see what happens. I have to say this is a better method than the older one.
-- Posted by evey123 at 1:44 pm on Aug. 21, 2006
im confused
-- Posted by Seidell at 3:06 pm on Aug. 21, 2006
I believe exsisting intellectuals SHOULD HAVE to do this as well. Many of them probably just copied the questions, and pasted them on GOOGLE and got the answers, or from another website. I am not saying they all did this, but probably 85% of them did, while the others did the test on their own without resulting to cheating. I think EVERYONE whether you are already an intellectual, or wanting to become one, should have to take this, because it will really show who does, and who doesn't belong in that forum. Because I honestly think that over half of them already in that forum, probably either A.) got the answers from GOOGLE or somewhere on the internet, or B.) got the answers from another member that took and passed the test through email, or wherever else. I just think it should be fair that already intellectuals should take the test. I mean afterall, it SHOULDN'T BOTHER them already to write a measly 400 words if they are "intellectuals."
-- Posted by Bud2400 at 3:07 pm on Aug. 21, 2006
Personally, I think that the existing intellectuals shoudl retake the test. Seeing how it's been changed so dramatically, it would only be fair. Besides, for one who deserves the intellectual status, it shouldn't be too much of a problem to force them to retake the test.
-- Posted by Spasty at 4:29 pm on Aug. 21, 2006
I love this, but I have one grammatical argument. The pronoun they is hotly debated on whether or not it may be used for a gender-neutral pronoun. Something that is as such seems a bit strange to be in the guidelines. I believe that Harvard teaches that it may be used as both singular and plural, even if it wasn't originally so. Linguistic evolution is the cause, and it may be similar to insisting upon the differences of "thou" and "ye."
-- Posted by Thunderbolt at 5:32 pm on Aug. 21, 2006
Holy shit this place gets more ridiculous every day.
-- Posted by bradley007 at 7:08 pm on Aug. 21, 2006
Quote: from Thunderbolt at 10:02 am on Aug. 22, 2006
Holy shit this place gets more ridiculous every day.
QFT
-- Posted by jinalyn at 7:16 pm on Aug. 21, 2006
I guess existing intellectuals should retake the test again to be fair because if they reaklly belong as an intellectual then there's no reason to be afraid of taking the exam again.
-- Posted by gro at 1:02 am on Aug. 22, 2006
wth, did it. when I first came here, I blew off the IT, did it as fast as I could as often as I could, and always managed to get one point from passing =p I'm fairly lazy, so I just submitted a variety of writing samples from various classes.
-- Posted by Midnight Frost at 4:21 am on Aug. 22, 2006
Well I guess it allows for more stringent filtering of intellectuals.
-- Posted by lollerpwner at 5:45 am on Aug. 22, 2006
Quote: from Spasty at 6:29 pm on Aug. 21, 2006
I love this, but I have one grammatical argument. The pronoun they is hotly debated on whether or not it may be used for a gender-neutral pronoun. Something that is as such seems a bit strange to be in the guidelines. I believe that Harvard teaches that it may be used as both singular and plural, even if it wasn't originally so. Linguistic evolution is the cause, and it may be similar to insisting upon the differences of "thou" and "ye." 
Too bad that we have compensated by using he and him as gender neutral pronouns.
-- Posted by TMAX at 7:51 am on Aug. 22, 2006
Oh, I didn't know about this. Anyway need to wait five moredays because of the application, I could've answered all those things.
-- Posted by iimjustbadnews at 3:00 pm on Aug. 22, 2006
humm i wish we didnt have to wait 5 days before doing it again, cause i got all the questions right but ade a mistake on my written thing ehaa
-- Posted by superguy68 at 6:37 am on Aug. 23, 2006
This is interesting. People whine about the test not being fair to them because they don't do well on multiple choice tests and cultural biased and then suddenly there is a written section. So basically its an accomadation to those who weren't intellectual enough to get the test correct before. Now you people say intellectuals should have to retake the test so it'll be fair or whatever? I figure the ones who took it before must be showing some sign of intelligence if they didn't need a human to be grading them. Not to offend anyone but that sounds ridiculous. However I haven't been around lately so masybe I'm barking up a different tree.
-- Posted by TheOtherHorseman at 8:40 am on Aug. 31, 2006
Quote: from Thunderbolt at 8:32 pm on Aug. 21, 2006
Holy shit this place gets more ridiculous every day.
I congratulate you on seeing the purpose behind the Intellectual Forum.
-- Posted by Bizilbur at 11:15 pm on Sep. 1, 2006
I love this, but I have one grammatical argument. The pronoun they is hotly debated on whether or not it may be used for a gender-neutral pronoun. Something that is as such seems a bit strange to be in the guidelines. I believe that Harvard teaches that it may be used as both singular and plural, even if it wasn't originally so. Linguistic evolution is the cause, and it may be similar to insisting upon the differences of "thou" and "ye." 
"They" is plural neutral. "E" is singular neutral. Use it.
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