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-- Posted by Another Idiot at 5:41 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

To me, it seems that art is an inefficient use of human time and resources. Instead, we would be better off if we made bigger bombs so we could kill more terrorists (okay maybe not but you get the picture).
Art really serves no role in bettering the human race. Instead we should spend time pursuing the sciences and math so we can get bigger TVs, faster computers, and spaceships(lol) etc.  
These things would help the human race advance, which art does not do. Thus, I think that art should be abandoned for more useful pursuits instead of "visionaries" (alcoholics smokers shroom users etc.) hippies and liberals creating some shit ass piece of junk that does not help mankind.


-- Posted by memoriesinfminor at 5:42 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

it's another way of expressing your feelings and curing boredm.


-- Posted by samzkuul at 5:42 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

It serves as an outlet to those who cannot express themselves any other way. And besides, it looks pretty.


-- Posted by maceyface at 5:42 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

So art is a waste of time, but watching countless hours of "better" TV isn't?


-- Posted by Another Idiot at 5:42 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from memoriesinfminor at 5:42 pm on Mar. 7, 2007


it's another way of expressing your feelings and curing boredm.

instead you should be doing something useful.


-- Posted by Another Idiot at 5:43 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from maceyface at 5:42 pm on Mar. 7, 2007


So art is a waste of time, but watching countless hours of "better" TV isn't?

Stop being stupid. I didn't say that. I almost never watch TV.


-- Posted by Another Idiot at 5:44 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from samzkuul at 5:42 pm on Mar. 7, 2007


It serves as an outlet to those who cannot express themselves any other way. And besides, it looks pretty.


ahhh those sad retarded shits...lame motherfuckers


What a stupid drain on society they are


-- Posted by dimebagmatt at 5:44 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Why?

Yeah, you could argue that 'we' should be spending time bettering the human race, but surely there are enough of us to allow for some to show some expression in something they have a passion for? I watched a film once called 'Equilibrium'. In the film, personal belongings were banned, as i recall, so were emotions and forms of self expression. As shown in the film, and as logic should dictate, people aren't going to want to live their lives in a sedate, often futile fashion. 'Rebels' will occur, and wars, etc. Back where we started, just with a new face.


-- Posted by maceyface at 5:45 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from Another Idiot at 5:43 pm on Mar. 7, 2007


Quote: from maceyface at 5:42 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

So art is a waste of time, but watching countless hours of "better" TV isn't?

Stop being stupid. I didn't say that. I almost never watch TV.



You said we should spend our time, instead of creating art, finding ways to make bigger TVs.


-- Posted by Another Idiot at 5:46 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from dimebagmatt at 5:44 pm on Mar. 7, 2007


Why?

Yeah, you could argue that 'we' should be spending time bettering the human race, but surely there are enough of us to allow for some to show some expression in something they have a passion for? I watched a film once called 'Equilibrium'. In the film, personal belongings were banned, as i recall, so were emotions and forms of self expression. As shown in the film, and as logic should dictate, people aren't going to want to live their lives in a sedate, often futile fashion. 'Rebels' will occur, and wars, etc. Back where we started, just with a new face.



AHHH GOODDDDD Equilibrium....Must you use shitty films, which got horrible reviews may I add, to prove your point.
EEEEEWWWWW

You should not be an intellectual. Fucking hell are you serious?


-- Posted by bloody valentine at 5:47 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

it's just a matter of your perspective. you say progress is bigger tv's and faster computers. i say that is the opposite of progress. art is producing something that relates to people's emotions, it's not about making the world a better place.


-- Posted by Another Idiot at 5:47 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from maceyface at 5:45 pm on Mar. 7, 2007


Quote: from Another Idiot at 5:43 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from maceyface at 5:42 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

So art is a waste of time, but watching countless hours of "better" TV isn't?
 

 Stop being stupid. I didn't say that. I almost never watch TV.


 
You said we should spend our time, instead of creating art, finding ways to make bigger TVs.


It is for the technology. TV provides a very important way to transmit news and other important information like that. They serve a far more important purpose than that shit called art.


-- Posted by Another Idiot at 5:49 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from bloody valentine at 5:47 pm on Mar. 7, 2007


it's just a matter of your perspective. you say progress is bigger tv's and faster computers. i say that is the opposite of progress. art is producing something that relates to people's emotions, it's not about making the world a better place.


eeewww one of those disgusting "artsy" people. do you smoke weed? It is bad for you you know?
how are faster computers the opposite of progress?


-- Posted by dimebagmatt at 5:50 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from Another Idiot at 1:46 am on Mar. 8, 2007


Quote: from dimebagmatt at 5:44 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Why?  

 Yeah, you could argue that 'we' should be spending time bettering the human race, but surely there are enough of us to allow for some to show some expression in something they have a passion for? I watched a film once called 'Equilibrium'. In the film, personal belongings were banned, as i recall, so were emotions and forms of self expression. As shown in the film, and as logic should dictate, people aren't going to want to live their lives in a sedate, often futile fashion. 'Rebels' will occur, and wars, etc. Back where we started, just with a new face.


 
AHHH GOODDDDD Equilibrium....Must you use shitty films, which got horrible reviews may I add, to prove your point.
EEEEEWWWWW
 
You should not be an intellectual. Fucking hell are you serious?


Are you serious? What difference do the reviews make? I simply referenced a film which highlighted a similar issue to the one you raised.

Either way, if you can present me with an argument that discounts my suggested ideas, then shoot.


-- Posted by bloody valentine at 5:51 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

because faster computers are just something that distracts you more from real life. the end, because you just want to argue with everyone, and i don't want to argue with you. also, weed is not that bad for you if done in moderation. have you even tried it? don't knock something till you try it, my friend.


-- Posted by maceyface at 5:52 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from Another Idiot at 5:47 pm on Mar. 7, 2007


Quote: from maceyface at 5:45 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from Another Idiot at 5:43 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from maceyface at 5:42 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

So art is a waste of time, but watching countless hours of "better" TV isn't?
 

  Stop being stupid. I didn't say that. I almost never watch TV.


 

  
 You said we should spend our time, instead of creating art, finding ways to make bigger TVs.  

 


It is for the technology. TV provides a very important way to transmit news and other important information like that. They serve a far more important purpose than that shit called art.


You know, they call psychology an art too. And technology? What is it but an art of precision? You realize that art is not limited to inventions, movies, books, clothing, the TV itself?


-- Posted by Another Idiot at 5:53 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from dimebagmatt at 5:50 pm on Mar. 7, 2007


Quote: from Another Idiot at 1:46 am on Mar. 8, 2007

Quote: from dimebagmatt at 5:44 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Why?  

  Yeah, you could argue that 'we' should be spending time bettering the human race, but surely there are enough of us to allow for some to show some expression in something they have a passion for? I watched a film once called 'Equilibrium'. In the film, personal belongings were banned, as i recall, so were emotions and forms of self expression. As shown in the film, and as logic should dictate, people aren't going to want to live their lives in a sedate, often futile fashion. 'Rebels' will occur, and wars, etc. Back where we started, just with a new face.


 

   
 AHHH GOODDDDD Equilibrium....Must you use shitty films, which got horrible reviews may I add, to prove your point.  
 EEEEEWWWWW  
   
 You should not be an intellectual. Fucking hell are you serious?


Are you serious? What difference do the reviews make? I simply referenced a film which highlighted a similar issue to the one you raised.  

Either way, if you can present me with an argument that discounts my suggested ideas, then shoot.


That piece of FICTION is disgusting. You have no class.
The basis for your suggested ideas is a piece of shit with no real basis. DISCREDITED.

Let us continue. I am not suggesting that we ban everything. I am not suggesting that we take pills to remove emotion. I am merely questioning the usefulness of art and the "artsy" emo losers who make it.


-- Posted by Another Idiot at 5:54 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from maceyface at 5:52 pm on Mar. 7, 2007


Quote: from Another Idiot at 5:47 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from maceyface at 5:45 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from Another Idiot at 5:43 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from maceyface at 5:42 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

So art is a waste of time, but watching countless hours of "better" TV isn't?
   

   Stop being stupid. I didn't say that. I almost never watch TV.


 

     
  You said we should spend our time, instead of creating art, finding ways to make bigger TVs.  

 


 

 It is for the technology. TV provides a very important way to transmit news and other important information like that. They serve a far more important purpose than that shit called art.


You know, they call psychology an art too. And technology? What is it but an art of precision? You realize that art is not limited to inventions, movies, books, clothing, the TV itself?


stop being a fag and over apply the definiton. so stop being a semantics fag will you?


-- Posted by Another Idiot at 5:55 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from bloody valentine at 5:51 pm on Mar. 7, 2007


because faster computers are just something that distracts you more from real life. the end, because you just want to argue with everyone, and i don't want to argue with you. also, weed is not that bad for you if done in moderation. have you even tried it? don't knock something till you try it, my friend.

Are you assuming that Ive never tried weed...?

Oh stop being full of stupid bullshit with real life and what not. I don't need your red pill blue pill nonsense. They are both reality.


-- Posted by maceyface at 5:56 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from Another Idiot at 5:54 pm on Mar. 7, 2007


stop being a fag and over apply the definiton. so stop being a semantics fag will you?

You're clearly avoiding my point, so I'll take that as a win. Score 1 for macey, 0 for idiot.


-- Posted by dimebagmatt at 5:57 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from Another Idiot at 1:53 am on Mar. 8, 2007


Quote: from dimebagmatt at 5:50 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from Another Idiot at 1:46 am on Mar. 8, 2007

Quote: from dimebagmatt at 5:44 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Why?    

   Yeah, you could argue that 'we' should be spending time bettering the human race, but surely there are enough of us to allow for some to show some expression in something they have a passion for? I watched a film once called 'Equilibrium'. In the film, personal belongings were banned, as i recall, so were emotions and forms of self expression. As shown in the film, and as logic should dictate, people aren't going to want to live their lives in a sedate, often futile fashion. 'Rebels' will occur, and wars, etc. Back where we started, just with a new face.


 

     
  AHHH GOODDDDD Equilibrium....Must you use shitty films, which got horrible reviews may I add, to prove your point.  
  EEEEEWWWWW  
     
  You should not be an intellectual. Fucking hell are you serious?


 

 Are you serious? What difference do the reviews make? I simply referenced a film which highlighted a similar issue to the one you raised.  

 Either way, if you can present me with an argument that discounts my suggested ideas, then shoot.


That piece of FICTION is disgusting. You have no class.
The basis for your suggested ideas is a piece of shit with no real basis. DISCREDITED.

Let us continue. I am not suggesting that we ban everything. I am not suggesting that we take pills to remove emotion. I am merely questioning the usefulness of art and the "artsy" emo losers who make it.


Logic seems like a good basic for an idea, in my thinking at least. Implement a rule, and people will break it. Then we'll need to produce bigger bombs to fit with your  suggestion. Of course, we could just not bother doing anything about art as a whole, and keep the current variety of terrorism we all know and love?


-- Posted by Another Idiot at 5:58 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from maceyface at 5:56 pm on Mar. 7, 2007


Quote: from Another Idiot at 5:54 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

stop being a fag and over apply the definiton. so stop being a semantics fag will you?

You're clearly avoiding my point, so I'll take that as a win. Score 1 for macey, 0 for idiot.



What point?

Quote: from maceyface at 5:56 pm on Mar. 7, 2007


blah blah blah blah


art is teh everything!!!111onecos0etcetceleven
im a dum fag



-- Posted by Another Idiot at 6:00 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from dimebagmatt at 5:57 pm on Mar. 7, 2007


Logic seems like a good basic for an idea, in my thinking at least. Implement a rule, and people will break it. Then we'll need to produce bigger bombs to fit with your  suggestion. Of course, we could just not bother doing anything about art as a whole, and keep the current variety of terrorism we all know and love?

and I suggested creating a rule banning art in my first post... yes?


-- Posted by bloody valentine at 6:01 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from Another Idiot at 8:55 pm on Mar. 7, 2007


Quote: from bloody valentine at 5:51 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

because faster computers are just something that distracts you more from real life. the end, because you just want to argue with everyone, and i don't want to argue with you. also, weed is not that bad for you if done in moderation. have you even tried it? don't knock something till you try it, my friend.

Are you assuming that Ive never tried weed...?

Oh stop being full of stupid bullshit with real life and what not. I don't need your red pill blue pill nonsense. They are both reality.



hahaha, you're really funny. if you think the computer is reality, you're a really sad person. and now i am signing off because none of your arguments are valid. you are not worth my time. you are therefor rendered a joke and all others posting on this topic should leave, boycotting the moronic topicsjavascript and arguments of the world. now THAT is what i call progress.


-- Posted by dimebagmatt at 6:02 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from Another Idiot at 2:00 am on Mar. 8, 2007


Quote: from dimebagmatt at 5:57 pm on Mar. 7, 2007


 Logic seems like a good basic for an idea, in my thinking at least. Implement a rule, and people will break it. Then we'll need to produce bigger bombs to fit with your  suggestion. Of course, we could just not bother doing anything about art as a whole, and keep the current variety of terrorism we all know and love?

and I suggested creating a rule banning art in my first post... yes?


No you did not, however, if you want to ban something you'll need a rule of some kind to do so.


-- Posted by Another Idiot at 6:03 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from bloody valentine at 6:01 pm on Mar. 7, 2007


Quote: from Another Idiot at 8:55 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from bloody valentine at 5:51 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

because faster computers are just something that distracts you more from real life. the end, because you just want to argue with everyone, and i don't want to argue with you. also, weed is not that bad for you if done in moderation. have you even tried it? don't knock something till you try it, my friend.
 

 Are you assuming that Ive never tried weed...?  

 Oh stop being full of stupid bullshit with real life and what not. I don't need your red pill blue pill nonsense. They are both reality.



hahaha, you're really funny. if you think the computer is reality, you're a really sad person. and now i am signing off because none of your arguments are valid. you are not worth my time. you are therefor rendered a joke and all others posting on this topic should leave, boycotting the moronic topicsjavascript and arguments of the world. now THAT is what i call progress.


nope computers don't exist
nor is it even conceivable that synthetic reality is better than reality (OMG weed and other drugs)


-- Posted by Another Idiot at 6:03 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from dimebagmatt at 6:02 pm on Mar. 7, 2007


Quote: from Another Idiot at 2:00 am on Mar. 8, 2007

Quote: from dimebagmatt at 5:57 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

 
  Logic seems like a good basic for an idea, in my thinking at least. Implement a rule, and people will break it. Then we'll need to produce bigger bombs to fit with your  suggestion. Of course, we could just not bother doing anything about art as a whole, and keep the current variety of terrorism we all know and love?

 

 and I suggested creating a rule banning art in my first post... yes?


No you did not, however, if you want to ban something you'll need a rule of some kind to do so.


This is more of an attack on artistic people than anything else if you haven't noticed...how they are stupid useless emo fags who are a drain on society.


-- Posted by dimebagmatt at 6:06 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from Another Idiot at 2:03 am on Mar. 8, 2007


Quote: from dimebagmatt at 6:02 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from Another Idiot at 2:00 am on Mar. 8, 2007

Quote: from dimebagmatt at 5:57 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

 
   Logic seems like a good basic for an idea, in my thinking at least. Implement a rule, and people will break it. Then we'll need to produce bigger bombs to fit with your  suggestion. Of course, we could just not bother doing anything about art as a whole, and keep the current variety of terrorism we all know and love?

 

  and I suggested creating a rule banning art in my first post... yes?


 

 No you did not, however, if you want to ban something you'll need a rule of some kind to do so.


This is more of an attack on artistic people than anything else if you haven't noticed...how they are stupid useless emo fags who are a drain on society.


But surely someone who passed a test as an intellectual could piece together a better reasoning for such an attack? I mean, given that you had the grapes to question my capacity as an intellectual, I would expect some evidence of your intelligence. Sadly however, I've not been able to find much.


-- Posted by Another Idiot at 6:08 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from dimebagmatt at 6:06 pm on Mar. 7, 2007


Quote: from Another Idiot at 2:03 am on Mar. 8, 2007

Quote: from dimebagmatt at 6:02 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from Another Idiot at 2:00 am on Mar. 8, 2007

Quote: from dimebagmatt at 5:57 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

   
    Logic seems like a good basic for an idea, in my thinking at least. Implement a rule, and people will break it. Then we'll need to produce bigger bombs to fit with your  suggestion. Of course, we could just not bother doing anything about art as a whole, and keep the current variety of terrorism we all know and love?

   

   and I suggested creating a rule banning art in my first post... yes?


   

  No you did not, however, if you want to ban something you'll need a rule of some kind to do so.


 

 This is more of an attack on artistic people than anything else if you haven't noticed...how they are stupid useless emo fags who are a drain on society.


 

But surely someone who passed a test as an intellectual could piece together a better reasoning for such an attack? I mean, given that you had the grapes to question my capacity as an intellectual, I would expect some evidence of your intelligence. Sadly however, I've not been able to find much.


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-- Posted by dimebagmatt at 6:11 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from Another Idiot at 2:08 am on Mar. 8, 2007


Quote: from dimebagmatt at 6:06 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from Another Idiot at 2:03 am on Mar. 8, 2007

Quote: from dimebagmatt at 6:02 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from Another Idiot at 2:00 am on Mar. 8, 2007

Quote: from dimebagmatt at 5:57 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

   
    Logic seems like a good basic for an idea, in my thinking at least. Implement a rule, and people will break it. Then we'll need to produce bigger bombs to fit with your  suggestion. Of course, we could just not bother doing anything about art as a whole, and keep the current variety of terrorism we all know and love?

   

   and I suggested creating a rule banning art in my first post... yes?


   

  No you did not, however, if you want to ban something you'll need a rule of some kind to do so.


 

 This is more of an attack on artistic people than anything else if you haven't noticed...how they are stupid useless emo fags who are a drain on society.


 

But surely someone who passed a test as an intellectual could piece together a better reasoning for such an attack? I mean, given that you had the grapes to question my capacity as an intellectual, I would expect some evidence of your intelligence. Sadly however, I've not been able to find much.


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Oh I see! It's ok to post shit on the intellectual forum because, well, why?

If I was being pedantic, I'd have had you back up all of your claims. I was being 'realistic'.

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