-- Posted by jamescoleman at 3:17 pm on Mar. 20, 2008 alright so i'm on my way for an associates degree (transfer) in network administration and i figure that the programming degree is six classes away and i'll be able to take extra classes just to get it. so in short i'm going to both networking and programming associates degrees but transfer in network administration for a bachelors. We are starting with qbasic because i need it for my networking degree but i also need java or basic (visual basic.net), c#, c++, advanced basic II (visual basic.net) and some other non programming classes for the programming degree. so what is your experience on the programming degree? i'm doing okay in qbaisc and i know the other languages are different but when i go in and look at the c++ book that i have i see things that i learned in my qbasic class. i think that it'll be kinda easy but i know i'll need to be good in math. also what success have you had in the programming career? programming kind of interests me because i get to create something and have it work. also i think it'll go good with networking. -- Posted by SHIH TZU at 3:20 pm on Mar. 20, 2008 good 4 you -- Posted by jamescoleman at 4:18 pm on Mar. 20, 2008 ah thanks -- Posted by Whuppee at 6:31 am on Mar. 21, 2008 Might as well mention: whenever you're posting a topic at all like this, you really should uncheck the 'post this topic to the fresh topics list' option.  That does nothing more than pull in randoms that care so much about their post count as to have misplaced all decency. Anyway. Idle curiousity.. what's the emphasis of your network administration degree?  Is it server / workstation configuration and maintainance, or configuring and maintaining the network itself?  If it makes for an easier answer, think microsoft / linux certifications vs cisco certs (inb4 ' omfg cisco isn't teh only vendor!!1 ').. And I might as well preface this with: my experience with a degree in programming is just shy of nonexistent.  It's a topic I'd rather avoid, as cynical / bitter tirades don't do much for my peace of mind. I also have no experience relative to programming as a career.  See above. As you seem to have noticed, and as you'll notice far moreso as you progress, concepts generally don't vary between languages. You really don't need to be good at math, insofar as that it's quite possible to be a good programmer absent virtually any affinity for it. Of course, College / Uni think that you need to be good at math.  So, in that sense, yeah.. you need to be good at it if you want a degree.  /shrug I'm not saying that it isn't useful.  Only that it isn't nearly the prerequisite so many seem to make it out to be. If anything, though I'd wish you the best of luck / alternatives... I must note that some professors are horrible.  And my impression has been that a lot of professors are horrible. Don't expect computer science to be a reprieve from such incompetence. Need help with a concept?  Post it. If I can provide an answer, chances are that it'll be a more intelligible answer than they can provide. It probably won't take up too much of your time, and I lurk here enough you'll likely have a decently fast response. -- Posted by jamescoleman at 11:16 am on Mar. 21, 2008 I honestly don't know what the focus on the networking degree will be. The major things that I saw was lan/wan, advanced lan administration, unix/linux administration, unix programming, using unix, and yes i know unix and linux are just about the same. i'm also going after my a+, network+, security+, linux +, and ccna. forget microsoft. i don't really care about them.