Pages: 1 2 3  Next -- Posted by katyduck at 12:09 am on May 28, 2008 As a direct consequence of the large influx of pardon requests received over the last few months, the moderation team has drawn together an revised procedure for how we shall be dealing with previously banned members. We believe that members have the ability to change and reform, and for this reason are happy to give second chances as and when a person proves they deserve one.   Should a member be suggested for denial of service, they are free to appeal the decision should they feel that the ban is in error. If the moderation team agrees that banning this member was not the right decision, a pardon shall be granted. Pardons shall be reserved only for instances in which the ban was made in error, and will not be given lightly.   After a member has been banned from the site, they are not permitted to return to LiveWire for a minimum of seven days, at the end of which they shall be allowed to return on a second account. This account shall be closely monitored for any misconduct, but to all extents and purposes shall be treated as a clean slate. Should the member choose to further infringe upon the Guidelines to the degree where they are a destructive presence on LiveWire, they shall again be banned from the site.   Alternatively, if a banned member wishes to play a constructive role on the forums, we are more than happy to allow them to do so. Indeed, if we believe that a member has genuinely reformed and can prove this to us through their actions, we shall be delighted to return their original account to them. However, in order to revoke a just and correct ban, a member must have consistently proven, for a sufficient period of time, that they have the genuine desire to play a positive part on LiveWire. For this reason, the team shall not even consider pardoning a member without them having waited a minimum of four months.   Please note that things such as days active shall be considered in the decision - if a member has few days active over four months, we have little to no persuasive evidence that they shall obey the Guidelines on any account.   So, in summary:   •A banned member is permitted to appeal should they feel their ban was in error   •If they were banned legitimately, members may return to the site on another account after a period of 7 days   •Should a member show a long period of constructive behaviour on this second account, they may request that their original account be pardoned after having returned on the second account for a minimum of four months   •Individuals who pose a real and legitimate threat  (such as members who display sexually predatory behavior) to our users are in no way covered by this policy in any way, they are simply ban on sight members. -- Posted by Deeznutz FYC at 12:11 am on May 28, 2008 sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet -- Posted by BLUEAUTOMATIC at 12:15 am on May 28, 2008 How is that different from the old policy? -- Posted by hithere at 12:19 am on May 28, 2008 Quote: from BlueAutomatic at 12:15 am on May 28, 2008 How is that different from the old policy? what i was gonna ask... -- Posted by penguincube at 12:19 am on May 28, 2008 Quote: from BlueAutomatic at 3:15 am on May 28, 2008 How is that different from the old policy? The old policy did not have defined time limits after which pardons were considered, and thus was more subjective.  Also, the old policy never actually stated that second accounts were actually allowed, or that pardons were eventually granted.  We were basically "turning our head the other way" with second accounts rather than stating that they were allowed. The new system is more fair to members in that it clearly lays out the path to reform for banned members rather than obscuring it, and it applies the same path to all members, rather than applying vague principles differently to different people by different moderators. -- Posted by FTF at 12:37 am on May 28, 2008 So in that case, would my old account be allowed to be reinstated at this point in time if I wished to have it done? I've been on this second account over a year now, and I have managed to stay out of trouble for the most part. My old account (Explorer4x4) was banned in January '07 and this account was created in May '07. So, hypothetically speaking, if I wanted to could I have my old account unbanned? Also, could I have it unbanned and make some changes to it and re-close it and continue using this one? -- Posted by coloring the void at 1:11 am on May 28, 2008 So is there any chance that I could get my very first and I mean the very very first account pardoned if I'm good for the next 90 days? -- Posted by dreamweaver at 1:19 am on May 28, 2008 Quote: from Coloring The Void at 4:11 am on May 28, 2008 So is there any chance that I could get my very first and I mean the very very first account pardoned if I'm good for the next 90 days? Read again; •Members who have been banned a large number of times already shall be exempt from the policy. Technically, you're not even allowed back on LiveWire, period. -- Posted by FTF at 2:11 am on May 28, 2008 Agh. Nobody answered my question. Can I or can I not have my old account, Explorer4x4, re-opened even if I were just to close it  and continue using this one. I'm assuming I can't have both opened. True or false????? -- Posted by FUCK Authority at 2:36 am on May 28, 2008 People abuse anonymity. Get over it. Its how its always going to be. Chill the fuck out. People come back quickly anyway so none of this is at all effective. Besides, everyone knows that all mods are power driven due to severe bullying irl. Most mods are rape victims and were sexual abused as children, so they compensate for being pwned irl. Just a personal opinion. Who agrees? -- Posted by coloring the void at 2:47 am on May 28, 2008 Quote: from dreamweaver at 1:19 am on May 28, 2008 Technically, you're not even allowed back on LiveWire, period. Technically, the rules don't apply to me. :P CAN'T TOUCH THIS! But in all seriousness, I think its fair to say I can appeal in 90 days. I really want poor I hate preps back in green. -- Posted by xoxo1234 at 4:13 am on May 28, 2008 Nice move mods. -- Posted by Brookie Chookie23 at 4:40 am on May 28, 2008 No more bara, woot. -- Posted by ilovedan098 at 5:00 am on May 28, 2008 okay -- Posted by BLUEAUTOMATIC at 5:47 am on May 28, 2008 Quote: from brookie chookie23 at 12:40 pm on May 28, 2008 No more bara, woot. That's not a good thing. -- Posted by ixi at 6:14 am on May 28, 2008 Quote: from BlueAutomatic at 6:47 am on May 28, 2008 Quote: from brookie chookie23 at 12:40 pm on May 28, 2008 No more bara, woot. That's not a good thing. Oh, but it is. -- Posted by wmudude at 7:11 am on May 28, 2008 If they were banned legitimately, members may return to the site on another account after a period of 7 days. This has got to be the most moronic and inane rule that LiveWire has. What is the point of banning someone if you're going to allow them to come back on another accout, after 7 days? It's fucking pointless, that's what it is. David need to get his head out of his fucking ass, quit playing his stupid "Zombies vs. Humans" game all the time and get the site back into shape. This site is no longer about peer support, it's about becoming one of the shittiest teen sites on the internet. -- Posted by BETTY FRONTZ08 at 7:14 am on May 28, 2008 coooooooooolllllllllllllllll -- Posted by Fouad at 7:26 am on May 28, 2008 great idea.. ppl should have a second chance -- Posted by Krista2886 at 9:30 am on May 28, 2008 nice -- Posted by El Manana at 9:57 am on May 28, 2008 Sweet, so in a few months, I might be able to get my Berserk account back if I want? -- Posted by hawaiinchuck at 10:02 am on May 28, 2008 Sounds like a good idea. Kind of.....eh. But i mean, at least you all are trying to make this a better place. Good job. -- Posted by OverTheAir at 10:12 am on May 28, 2008 Quote: from wmudude at 10:11 am on May 28, 2008 If they were banned legitimately, members may return to the site on another account after a period of 7 days. This has got to be the most moronic and inane rule that LiveWire has. What is the point of banning someone if you're going to allow them to come back on another accout, after 7 days? It's fucking pointless, that's what it is. David need to get his head out of his fucking ass, quit playing his stupid "Zombies vs. Humans" game all the time and get the site back into shape. This site is no longer about peer support, it's about becoming one of the shittiest teen sites on the internet. Exactly what I was thinking. -- Posted by barnabas at 10:36 am on May 28, 2008 Quote: from wmudude at 9:11 am on May 28, 2008 If they were banned legitimately, members may return to the site on another account after a period of 7 days. This has got to be the most moronic and inane rule that LiveWire has. What is the point of banning someone if you're going to allow them to come back on another accout, after 7 days? It's fucking pointless, that's what it is. David need to get his head out of his fucking ass, quit playing his stupid "Zombies vs. Humans" game all the time and get the site back into shape. This site is no longer about peer support, it's about becoming one of the shittiest teen sites on the internet. I agree. I do not understand the point of banning someone if they can come back? Why bother? -- Posted by ElfQrin at 11:55 am on May 28, 2008 Nice thinking mods. :) -- Posted by Rastafarian at 12:23 pm on May 28, 2008 Quote: from wmudude at 7:11 am on May 28, 2008 If they were banned legitimately, members may return to the site on another account after a period of 7 days. This has got to be the most moronic and inane rule that LiveWire has. What is the point of banning someone if you're going to allow them to come back on another accout, after 7 days? It's fucking pointless, that's what it is. David need to get his head out of his fucking ass, quit playing his stupid "Zombies vs. Humans" game all the time and get the site back into shape. This site is no longer about peer support, it's about becoming one of the shittiest teen sites on the internet. if a banned member wishes to play a constructive role on the forums, we are more than happy to allow them to do so. Indeed, if we believe that a member has genuinely reformed and can prove this to us through their actions, we shall be delighted to return their original account to them. Yes they are initially given just a chance to still be part of the social scene, which is all good and well, it's often argued that the social scene can vastly provide support as well as the "e-Help, and Serious Forum" aspects. Thus something we cannot disregard completely. However, you quoted slightly out of context, the new account is under watch, and if still treated in a destructive manner will be rebanned. While we encourage them to be supportive. Not really much we can do besides encourage wmudude, we can't make people support each other, it's just impossible to make anyone do anything. Encouraging support actually would seem to promote what you're complaining about isn't happening anymore either, and if that can reform a previously banned member, all then better then, no? -- Posted by Ancient Rights at 12:35 pm on May 28, 2008 That removes a bit of my worry. -- Posted by purplerock16 at 1:06 pm on May 28, 2008 This doesn't affect me. -- Posted by angel123gi at 1:08 pm on May 28, 2008 wow -- Posted by crazygirl333 at 1:30 pm on May 28, 2008 i like it Pages: 1 2 3  Next