-- Posted by Uniq0ne at 6:04 pm on June 1, 2008 I'm reinstalling Windows XP. Have a question though. Should I create 2 partitions or should I only use 1? -- Posted by the messenger at 6:05 pm on June 1, 2008 Use 2. Make one smaller than the other, and only put vital shit on the smaller one, and use the bigger for your media. -- Posted by iconoclast at 6:05 pm on June 1, 2008 reformatting? 1 -- Posted by cyanotype at 6:05 pm on June 1, 2008 I'd get 2 One for programs + windows and the other for your videos and music nd crap. -- Posted by iconoclast at 6:06 pm on June 1, 2008 but if youre just reinstalling go with what everyone else siad i dont know shit -- Posted by evilsoul at 6:06 pm on June 1, 2008 i also do 2 same alot of hassle how big the drive -- Posted by cherryD at 6:07 pm on June 1, 2008 1? -- Posted by Uniq0ne at 6:09 pm on June 1, 2008 Yeah only thing is I'm a perfectionist and when I set the 2 partitions I always end up with the drives saying: C Drive: 50GB D Drive: 99GB D Drive being 99 and not 100 bugs the hell out of me lol... -- Posted by jamescoleman at 4:32 am on June 16, 2008 yea i dont like how you can get 50 gigs and not have the other 100 on the other partition either. you should go with two just so it'll be easier to back up the important stuff as well -- Posted by Uniq0ne at 4:41 am on June 16, 2008 Yeah I'll probably end up doing that one day. But right now I've still got like 100gigs of free space lol -- Posted by madinflux at 6:23 am on June 16, 2008 I use two. I also use a backup just in case. -- Posted by Jay JWLH at 3:57 am on June 25, 2008 That 99 isn't that surprising. A 150GB hard drive is the market value of it, but once you install it on your computer you are given a bit less since it is different to binary space. I have 931GB in my 1TB HDD for example. I personally think you should make sure you create a large enough partition for windows and everything you install onto it, and leave the last partition for later. At least if you put the windows partition at the start of the drive, you can move the second partition around, and resize it. You can even make the windows partition bigger, I just wouldn't recommend moving it at all. What I hated the most about my instillation was having the partition all the way at the end of the drive. -- Posted by Tursi Askari at 2:42 pm on June 28, 2008 Fuck partitions. I'm yet to find a use for them. Making a small partition for your OS means you have to install your programs in the other partition and what does that actually accomplish? My 2c. -- Posted by Uniq0ne at 1:02 pm on June 30, 2008 Quote: from Tursi Askari at 2:42 pm on June 28, 2008 Fuck partitions. I'm yet to find a use for them. Making a small partition for your OS means you have to install your programs in the other partition and what does that actually accomplish? My 2c. It keeps your first partition less fragmented, therefore an increase in performance. On my 1st partition I have my OS and Programs and on my 2nd I have Music, Games, Videos, and Pictures. -- Posted by Tursi Askari at 10:48 pm on June 30, 2008 Hard to run a defrag every few months? I think not. What happens when you fill up one of your partitions? -- Posted by Uniq0ne at 9:06 am on July 1, 2008 Buy a 2nd hard drive, backup all my music, games, pictures, and video onto the new hard drive and reformat the first one and reinstall OS. I've got 2 partitions on one drive and I don't think I'll ever fill up a partition. I've got about 6 games on my 2nd and its not even half full yet. 160gb ftw. -- Posted by sakurag at 9:43 am on July 1, 2008 if you have the money, I would go ahead and purchase a smaller 10K or 15K or whatever rpm drive.  Put your OS and performance applications on this, put all the other crap on your 160gb. -- Posted by Tursi Askari at 3:40 pm on July 1, 2008 Quote: from Uniq0ne at 4:06 am on July 2, 2008 Buy a 2nd hard drive, backup all my music, games, pictures, and video onto the new hard drive and reformat the first one and reinstall OS. I've got 2 partitions on one drive and I don't think I'll ever fill up a partition. I've got about 6 games on my 2nd and its not even half full yet. 160gb ftw. Reinstall OS? Reformat? WTF. Yeah definitely a good idea. GOOD ONE MAN!!! 6 games, 160gb WOW THATS MASSIVE. Heres an idea. Don't use gay partitions. When you fill up one HD, buy another and simply DRAG AND DROP all your media to the new one, then run a defrag (if you care that much). NO reformatting. NO reinstalling OS. NO bullshit. (I have 2x 640GB WDs, 1 = OS + installs, 56% full, 2 = media, 68% full) -- Posted by Uniq0ne at 6:46 pm on July 4, 2008 The whole point of this post was which method results in better performance on a single hard drive setup. And obviously it's 2 partitions. So what the hell are you talking about? Of course having 2 hard drives would be better. Sheese...   -- Posted by Tursi Askari at 2:46 pm on July 5, 2008 Quote: from Uniq0ne at 6:46 pm on July 4, 2008 The whole point of this post was which method results in better performance on a single hard drive setup. And obviously it's 2 partitions. So what the hell are you talking about? Of course having 2 hard drives would be better. Sheese...   Obviously? I'm yet to see ANYONE post some reasons why it would give 'better performance'. Two hard drives? I mentioned that because I asked 'WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU FILL UP ONE OF YOUR FUCKING STUPID PARTITIONS?' If for some unknown reason, you magically got better performance from 2 partitions, I was highlighting the inconveniences of fucking round with shit and reformatting. Lrn2computer. -- Posted by Uniq0ne at 2:44 pm on July 10, 2008 Quote: from Tursi Askari at 2:46 pm on July 5, 2008 Quote: from Uniq0ne at 6:46 pm on July 4, 2008 The whole point of this post was which method results in better performance on a single hard drive setup. And obviously it's 2 partitions. So what the hell are you talking about? Of course having 2 hard drives would be better. Sheese...   Obviously? I'm yet to see ANYONE post some reasons why it would give 'better performance'.   Two hard drives? I mentioned that because I asked 'WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU FILL UP ONE OF YOUR FUCKING STUPID PARTITIONS?' If for some unknown reason, you magically got better performance from 2 partitions, I was highlighting the inconveniences of fucking round with shit and reformatting. Lrn2computer. lol you're hilarious. I already know why I get better performance using 2 partitions. I've been using 2 for about 2 years now and have spoken to several experts on the subject and they all explained every detail why 2 partitions when using a single hard drive is better. Instead of whining like a little bitch why don't you just research this yourself instead of denying everything you hear from people. Better than making yourself look like a big ass hole.   -- Posted by Tursi Askari at 4:11 pm on July 10, 2008 Quote: from Uniq0ne at 9:44 am on July 11, 2008 Quote: from Tursi Askari at 2:46 pm on July 5, 2008 Quote: from Uniq0ne at 6:46 pm on July 4, 2008 The whole point of this post was which method results in better performance on a single hard drive setup. And obviously it's 2 partitions. So what the hell are you talking about? Of course having 2 hard drives would be better. Sheese...          Obviously? I'm yet to see ANYONE post some reasons why it would give 'better performance'.    Two hard drives? I mentioned that because I asked 'WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU FILL UP ONE OF YOUR FUCKING STUPID PARTITIONS?' If for some unknown reason, you magically got better performance from 2 partitions, I was highlighting the inconveniences of fucking round with shit and reformatting.    Lrn2computer. lol you're hilarious. I already know why I get better performance using 2 partitions. I've been using 2 for about 2 years now and have spoken to several experts on the subject and they all explained every detail why 2 partitions when using a single hard drive is better. Instead of whining like a little bitch why don't you just research this yourself instead of denying everything you hear from people. Better than making yourself look like a big ass hole.   LOLWUT?! How can a computer run faster with 2 partitions?! You still only have one head that has to flick across FURTHER distances on the platter!! You're laughable statement on talking to 'experts' is such utter crap, and proves to me you are not one. If you have been told why its better, then please, enlighten me and everyone else. That is what I have been asking you to do rather than just say '2 partitions r bettr'. Whining like a little bitch? I'm LAUGHING at your immense lack of anything remotely resembling knowledge on this subject! You are trying to defend your choice of using 2 partitions with words but no proof. You are the one trying to say something is better that the status quo yet won't show any evidence? The only real benefit of using a partition was when using a large hard drive with a file system like NTFS, but computers and hard drives are that fast these days that there is NO bottleneck there whatsoever. You are living in a dreamworld Neo! I suggest you use a program such as 'Spinrite' to show you how slow your access times are across your partitions. Oh, and please refer to my sig. Have a nice day. -- Posted by Uniq0ne at 5:48 pm on July 10, 2008 Quote: from Tursi Askari at 4:11 pm on July 10, 2008 Quote: from Uniq0ne at 9:44 am on July 11, 2008 Quote: from Tursi Askari at 2:46 pm on July 5, 2008 Quote: from Uniq0ne at 6:46 pm on July 4, 2008 The whole point of this post was which method results in better performance on a single hard drive setup. And obviously it's 2 partitions. So what the hell are you talking about? Of course having 2 hard drives would be better. Sheese...     Obviously? I'm yet to see ANYONE post some reasons why it would give 'better performance'.     Two hard drives? I mentioned that because I asked 'WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU FILL UP ONE OF YOUR FUCKING STUPID PARTITIONS?' If for some unknown reason, you magically got better performance from 2 partitions, I was highlighting the inconveniences of fucking round with shit and reformatting.   Lrn2computer.    lol you're hilarious. I already know why I get better performance using 2 partitions. I've been using 2 for about 2 years now and have spoken to several experts on the subject and they all explained every detail why 2 partitions when using a single hard drive is better.    Instead of whining like a little bitch why don't you just research this yourself instead of denying everything you hear from people. Better than making yourself look like a big ass hole.   LOLWUT?! How can a computer run faster with 2 partitions?! You still only have one head that has to flick across FURTHER distances on the platter!! You're laughable statement on talking to 'experts' is such utter crap, and proves to me you are not one. If you have been told why its better, then please, enlighten me and everyone else. That is what I have been asking you to do rather than just say '2 partitions r bettr'. Whining like a little bitch? I'm LAUGHING at your immense lack of anything remotely resembling knowledge on this subject! You are trying to defend your choice of using 2 partitions with words but no proof. You are the one trying to say something is better that the status quo yet won't show any evidence? The only real benefit of using a partition was when using a large hard drive with a file system like NTFS, but computers and hard drives are that fast these days that there is NO bottleneck there whatsoever. You are living in a dreamworld Neo! I suggest you use a program such as 'Spinrite' to show you how slow your access times are across your partitions.   Oh, and please refer to my sig. Have a nice day. OK "Tursi Askari" since you were just so damn LAZY, and preferred turning this into a heated argument instead of looking this up yourself, I'm doing you a favor and going to explain this to you myself. Advantage #1: A hard drive containing multiple partitions allows you to *lower* your drive's effective access time, providing you with a more responsive system. If you create a partition at the outer/leading edge of your drive, and install your operating system & applications there .. and use the inner/slower parts of the disk for storing files that don't require access during normal system operating (i.e. downloads, drivers, back-ups, Ghost images, etc.) .. you'll limit/restrict your drive's seeks to the fastest part of the drive. Advantage #2: The main reason people prefer a drive with multiple partitions over one with only a single large partition is because having a separate system partition, containing only your operating system (Windows) and programs, allows you to reformat your system partition (should something go horribly wrong with Windows) and reinstall Windows without losing all the data on the drive. Advantage #3: A drive with multiple partitions allows you to defrag only those partitions that actually need defragging. This saves wear and tear on your drive, and may even help keep it from failing prematurely. Some users advocate creating a small partition specifically for files that fragment easily. Then they move all these easily-fragmented files and directories there. This keeps your other volumes/drives from fragmenting as much, and makes defragging easier/faster/quicker. I think this is a good idea. Advantage #4: [my favorite] Imaging: A drive with multiple partitions allows you to easily create & restore images using programs such as Norton Ghost. Advantage #6: Security. The vast majority of people install Windows to their C drive. Hackers know this and target the C drive. You are less likely to be hacked if Windows resides on a drive other than C. And you will need more than one partition to get a drive letter other than C. Hopefully this information will prove more useful than your lazy and arrogant replies. Oh and just for shits n giggles I reread this 1 month old topic and can see that more people agree with me than you kthxbai. -- Posted by Tursi Askari at 10:10 pm on July 10, 2008 Wow, I didn't think you could fail any more, but you did it. I don't have to 'look up' anything, this is common knowledge. Let me discount each of your pathetic reasons. DISadvantage 1: As soon as you try and do that, the head has to do a big fucking jump between partitions. This LOWERS your access time. The head has to move across the whole platter. Like I said, do a Spinrite benchmark and you will see for yourself. DISadvantage 2: Wow, ever heard of doing a repair install? Failing that you can pull the HD and put it in another computer to recover any music, vids etc you want to save. Rather have to do that than be stuck with the disadvantages I have outlined before. DISadvantage 3: LOLOLOL fucking noob, wear and tear from defragging?? WTF is this fucking noob hour on the forums? Defragging is just read/writing, what do you think a hard drive does???? Logically it may make sense to defrag these areas, but in real life theres no difference. Modern hard drives and file systems are too fast to give a shit. DISadvantage 4: Since when is the average user going to fuck around with ghost images? Shit no-one i know does and we all build computers, and half of us are studying computer science/networking/hardware systems! Fail. DISadvantage 5: Oh wait you missed this point, leave it on your other partition?     DISadvantage 6: Security? Fuck how old IS this shit? Windows is secure. Smart people use firewalls. All you do by putting windows on something OTHER than C is confuse a bunch of programs. Its a heated argument because you think you know what you are talking about, but you don't know shit! The ONLY advantage I can see to having separate partitions is if you are doing a lot of reformatting and reinstalling of OS's, but who does that?? You really summed up your knowledge of computers with point 3. I'm still laughing! -- Posted by Uniq0ne at 10:21 pm on July 10, 2008 Quote: from Tursi Askari at 10:10 pm on July 10, 2008 "I'm still laughing!" lol so am I... so am I... Please keep on talking, you are a very good entertainer! I appreciate your humor! -- Posted by Tursi Askari at 11:16 pm on July 10, 2008 Quote: from Uniq0ne at 5:21 pm on July 11, 2008 Quote: from Tursi Askari at 10:10 pm on July 10, 2008 "I'm still laughing!" lol so am I... so am I... Please keep on talking, you are a very good entertainer!   I appreciate your humor! Awww whats wrong run out of BS? Its great when people think they know shit but don't. Oh well, guess that ends this thread. Guess we will have to agree to disagree as you still won't listen to fact. Anyway, lets put the crap aside and start afresh. Whats your rig? -- Posted by Dickij03 at 8:36 am on July 11, 2008 Quote: from Tursi Askari at 6:48 am on July 1, 2008 Hard to run a defrag every few months? I think not. What happens when you fill up one of your partitions? It's as simple as this. I use 2 partitions and it saves me shit loads of times on a format. Surely you've heared of steam? None of steam games require registry files so when i do format my C:\ my d:\ and e:\ are intact and therefor i do not require to download any of my steam games. This is the same for COD4 as this can run without the registry files (no need for patching here now). Also you can point your my documents folder to the second partition. This means all your personal files will survive the format and once xp/vista is reinstalled just point your my documents back to the second partition and it's like the format never took place. (Personally i don't do partitions i just have 4 HDD. A second hard drive is also usefull to keep for windows PageFile as this can increase performance but with 4gb of ram i've just disabled mine.) -- Posted by Uniq0ne at 9:30 am on July 11, 2008 Quote: from Dickij03 at 8:36 am on July 11, 2008 " Also you can point your my documents folder to the second partition. This means all your personal files will survive the format and once xp/vista is reinstalled just point your my documents back to the second partition and it's like the format never took place. " Yep that's the biggest reason I use 2 Partitions on my single hdd setup. At least until I buy a 2nd hard drive. -- Posted by JeremyM at 6:00 am on July 15, 2008 Quote: from Uniq0ne at 9:09 pm on June 1, 2008 Yeah only thing is I'm a perfectionist and when I set the 2 partitions I always end up with the drives saying: C Drive: 50GB D Drive: 99GB D Drive being 99 and not 100 bugs the hell out of me lol... Well, when you buy a "200gb" drive, for instance, it's not really 200gb. Since a megabyte isn't 1000 kilobytes, it's really 1024kb. So, a gigabyte is 1024mb, not 1000mb. So, there will always be a shortage of drive space on a brand new drive.