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-- Posted by iconoclast at 2:54 pm on June 21, 2008

'not in the right mind' is a vague and subjective definition that can easily be abused, and its your own right to do what you want anyway. not that suicide is a good thing. freedom includes the freedom to make bad decisions

this would force people to pursue social solutions and treat people more nicely so they dont end up like that in the first place


-- Posted by lunchbox at 2:55 pm on June 21, 2008

well, i dont think the goverment can really stop you if your determined enough.....


-- Posted by Taylor636Baker at 2:55 pm on June 21, 2008

It can't stop you


-- Posted by Meep123 at 2:56 pm on June 21, 2008

They shouldn't help you.

I think it's fine the way it is; they can't stop you right now.


-- Posted by iconoclast at 2:56 pm on June 21, 2008

Quote: from lunchbox at 5:55 pm on June 21, 2008


well, i dont think the goverment can really stop you if your determined enough.....
yeah but i meant legally

itd also cut the number of executed but failed attempts which often result in someone being fucked up but alive


-- Posted by hateitandloveit at 2:56 pm on June 21, 2008

Quote: from lunchbox at 5:55 pm on June 21, 2008


well, i dont think the goverment can really stop you if your determined enough.....

qft

but interesting opinion


-- Posted by Slim Shady at 2:56 pm on June 21, 2008

no


-- Posted by HateParents at 2:56 pm on June 21, 2008

We need way more ways to die with all these 13 year old girls and China reproducing. Yes


-- Posted by JohnQ at 2:56 pm on June 21, 2008

Yeah. So let's all OD on heroin because we want to. If you wanna kill yourself they can't stop you, it's not like you're walking out into the street in a fucking parade pertaining banner's with "WE'RE SUICIDAL, STOP US KILLING OURSELVES!"

C'mon now. Don't be silly.


-- Posted by iconoclast at 2:57 pm on June 21, 2008

Quote: from Meep123 at 5:56 pm on June 21, 2008


They shouldn't help you.

I think it's fine the way it is; they can't stop you right now.


legally, they can detain you for it


-- Posted by Shwinky1992 at 2:57 pm on June 21, 2008

i feel tht they shouldnt let u kill urself... if u really want to kill urself... jus join the military or sumtin nd pick the frontline and go out nd atleast be a little productive with ur own death


-- Posted by Meep123 at 2:57 pm on June 21, 2008

Quote: from prisoner of hss at 5:56 pm on June 21, 2008


Quote: from lunchbox at 5:55 pm on June 21, 2008

well, i dont think the goverment can really stop you if your determined enough.....
yeah but i meant legally

itd also cut the number of executed but failed attempts which often result in someone being fucked up but alive


Are you suggesting they help people kill themselves?

Tax money should not go to help losers end their life and bring no benefit to society.


-- Posted by Lulamae at 2:57 pm on June 21, 2008

I agree! If I want to die as painlessly as possible, give me the paperwork, give me my will to sign...and give me a way to stop my heart!


-- Posted by lordofallyou at 2:58 pm on June 21, 2008

It's my lif, why in the HELL does the government care? My life, piss off.


-- Posted by Natsy at 2:58 pm on June 21, 2008

then killing yourself because you've had a bad day would be acceptable? i know I've felt suicidal on some days then absolutely fine the next, and if the government *allowed* us to kill ourselves if we wanted to, we could be looking at a mass population wipeout.


-- Posted by iconoclast at 2:58 pm on June 21, 2008

Quote: from Meep123 at 5:57 pm on June 21, 2008


Quote: from prisoner of hss at 5:56 pm on June 21, 2008

Quote: from lunchbox at 5:55 pm on June 21, 2008

well, i dont think the goverment can really stop you if your determined enough.....
yeah but i meant legally  

 itd also cut the number of executed but failed attempts which often result in someone being fucked up but alive


Are you suggesting they help people kill themselves?

Tax money should not go to help losers end their life and bring no benefit to society.


well 'benefit' is subjective, and no they dont have to help but they should at least make it legal


-- Posted by brookegrvs at 2:58 pm on June 21, 2008

no... most ppl who want to arnt in a good state of mind to make that desision and get caught up in the moment and dont think aboutr the ppl it would hurt


-- Posted by marshmellowman at 2:59 pm on June 21, 2008

Suicide is legal in the UK and has never been punished as a crime in the US, most states have repealed any laws that make suicide a illegal as well.


-- Posted by lordofallyou at 3:00 pm on June 21, 2008

Quote: from brookegrvs at 5:58 pm on June 21, 2008


no... most ppl who want to arnt in a good state of mind to make that desision and get caught up in the moment and dont think aboutr the ppl it would hurt

Oh god.. where do I start? How about, It's MY life, if I ever want to not wear a seat belt, or kill myself or w.e., it's MY life, why the FUCK should the government care?


-- Posted by iconoclast at 3:00 pm on June 21, 2008

Quote: from marshmellowman at 5:59 pm on June 21, 2008


Suicide is legal in the UK and has never been punished as a crime in the US, most states have repealed any laws that make suicide a illegal as well.
being sent to a mental institution is probably worse than spending a night or two in jail

its being detained all the same anyway

it should be fully legal and nobody should have the right to detain you against your will


-- Posted by MissXHalloween at 3:00 pm on June 21, 2008

Quote: from prisoner of hss at 2:57 pm on June 21, 2008


Quote: from Meep123 at 5:56 pm on June 21, 2008

They shouldn't help you.  

 I think it's fine the way it is; they can't stop you right now.


legally, they can detain you for it

well its not like youre gonna go up to this insane assylum person and be like, "yo im thinking about killing myself" i mean, if someone was gonna do it, theyd just do it. the government has nothing to do with suicide.


-- Posted by iconoclast at 3:01 pm on June 21, 2008

Quote: from MissXHalloween at 6:00 pm on June 21, 2008


Quote: from prisoner of hss at 2:57 pm on June 21, 2008

Quote: from Meep123 at 5:56 pm on June 21, 2008

They shouldn't help you.

  I think it's fine the way it is; they can't stop you right now.


legally, they can detain you for it

well its not like youre gonna go up to this insane assylum person and be like, "yo im thinking about killing myself" i mean, if someone was gonna do it, theyd just do it. the government has nothing to do with suicide.


no the police can stop you, 'arrest' you, and have them pick you up


-- Posted by anonymous2 at 3:02 pm on June 21, 2008

I agree.  I do not advocate suicide, but this is a matter much like abortion and a person's basic right to refuse medical treatment: people should have the right to decide their own fate, regardless of the government's perception of their mental state.


-- Posted by Daleacus at 3:03 pm on June 21, 2008

Yes on the grounds that you should have the right to do whatever to yourself.

No on the grounds that there are suicidal people who at the time wish to die, but, later on and recovered, regret feeling like that and would rather live in the end.


-- Posted by iconoclast at 3:04 pm on June 21, 2008

but you cant accurately judge that in a person

there are those people, and there are some who arent like that

again, freedom includes the freedom to do dumb things and make bad decisions you would or will regret


-- Posted by hello99 00pk at 3:04 pm on June 21, 2008

totaly agree


-- Posted by Lulamae at 3:04 pm on June 21, 2008

Quote: from Natsy at 11:58 pm on June 21, 2008


then killing yourself because you've had a bad day would be acceptable? i know I've felt suicidal on some days then absolutely fine the next, and if the government *allowed* us to kill ourselves if we wanted to, we could be looking at a mass population wipeout.

There'd be a lot of paperwork and a 2 month period for you to decide. You'd need to get confronted with death over and over again.


-- Posted by iconoclast at 3:06 pm on June 21, 2008

yes it would be acceptable, freedom includes the freedom to fuck up, but obviously social problems to discourage people would be okay, just not detaining them against their will


-- Posted by Fauna at 3:07 pm on June 21, 2008

are you talking about euthanasia or suicide?

suicide isn't a crime in the U.S or the U.K.


-- Posted by iconoclast at 3:07 pm on June 21, 2008

both i guess

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