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-- Posted by CyberDr4gon at 10:05 pm on June 21, 2008
Whats the process like? How do you work it? Yes, I know its illegal, but giving infomation isnt.
-- Posted by hateitandloveit at 10:06 pm on June 21, 2008
uh...... rather not tell you, since it's also illegal.
-- Posted by hubert cumberdale at 10:06 pm on June 21, 2008
you use different things. it's not like a program lol
-- Posted by Gabriel Gray at 10:07 pm on June 21, 2008
A lot harder than you can imagine, and if you have the smarts/skills to program a virus... your stupid. Considering such skills could earn you serious money, that is if your smart enough to figure out how to do so.
-- Posted by FurryPanther at 10:09 pm on June 21, 2008
Quote: from hateitandloveit at 11:06 pm on June 21, 2008
 uh...... rather not tell you, since it's also illegal. 
Depends on the use and purpose of a virus. They aren't ridiculously difficult to make. Especially on Vista. The protected kernel seems imposing, but it's really not that difficult to bypass. FP
-- Posted by CyberDr4gon at 10:10 pm on June 21, 2008
Quote: from FurryPanther at 10:09 pm on June 21, 2008
Quote: from hateitandloveit at 11:06 pm on June 21, 2008
uh...... rather not tell you, since it's also illegal.
Depends on the use and purpose of a virus. They aren't ridiculously difficult to make. Especially on Vista. The protected kernel seems imposing, but it's really not that difficult to bypass. FP
I thought Vista was impossible to penetrate
-- Posted by FurryPanther at 10:14 pm on June 21, 2008
Quote: from CyberDr4gon at 11:10 pm on June 21, 2008
Quote: from FurryPanther at 10:09 pm on June 21, 2008
Quote: from hateitandloveit at 11:06 pm on June 21, 2008
uh...... rather not tell you, since it's also illegal.
Depends on the use and purpose of a virus. They aren't ridiculously difficult to make. Especially on Vista. The protected kernel seems imposing, but it's really not that difficult to bypass. FP
I thought Vista was impossible to penetrate
That's what Microsoft hoped for. I'm not sure now that they've release service pack 1, but prior, it was a lot more doable than they would have liked. Why do you think they're abandoning the program? FP
-- Posted by CyberDr4gon at 10:19 pm on June 21, 2008
Quote: from FurryPanther at 10:14 pm on June 21, 2008
Quote: from CyberDr4gon at 11:10 pm on June 21, 2008
Quote: from FurryPanther at 10:09 pm on June 21, 2008
Quote: from hateitandloveit at 11:06 pm on June 21, 2008
uh...... rather not tell you, since it's also illegal.
Depends on the use and purpose of a virus. They aren't ridiculously difficult to make. Especially on Vista. The protected kernel seems imposing, but it's really not that difficult to bypass. FP
I thought Vista was impossible to penetrate
That's what Microsoft hoped for. I'm not sure now that they've release service pack 1, but prior, it was a lot more doable than they would have liked. Why do you think they're abandoning the program? FP
They're abandoning Vista?
-- Posted by FurryPanther at 10:20 pm on June 21, 2008
Quote: from CyberDr4gon at 11:19 pm on June 21, 2008
They're abandoning Vista?
How can they do anything else with such an utter failure? FP
-- Posted by Gabriel Gray at 10:57 pm on June 21, 2008
Quote: from FurryPanther at 11:20 pm on June 21, 2008
Quote: from CyberDr4gon at 11:19 pm on June 21, 2008
They're abandoning Vista?
How can they do anything else with such an utter failure? FP
Vista vs XP... Vista is the clear winner. The primary issue that Microsoft initially had with vista was forcing it to run on hardware that it wasn't designed for. With the UAC it completely eliminates the need for virus protection software. Assuming that the user is intelligent enough to only allow programs they can trust to run. Some find this annoying, but I personally like knowing what is going on. I recall XP while in it's infancy had far greater problems. IMO Vista is far superior to XP. Stability (on the correct hardware) is also much better. Now if we were to compare it to other operating systems such as Linux, it would eventually come down to user choice. (Vista beat's out all the other operating systems when it comes to being user friendly.)
-- Posted by FurryPanther at 11:00 pm on June 21, 2008
Quote: from N e o at 11:57 pm on June 21, 2008
Quote: from FurryPanther at 11:20 pm on June 21, 2008
Quote: from CyberDr4gon at 11:19 pm on June 21, 2008
They're abandoning Vista?
How can they do anything else with such an utter failure? FP
Vista vs XP... Vista is the clear winner. The primary issue that Microsoft initially had with vista was forcing it to run on hardware that it wasn't designed for. With the UAC it completely eliminates the need for virus protection software. Assuming that the user is intelligent enough to only allow programs they can trust to run. Some find this annoying, but I personally like knowing what is going on. I recall XP while in it's infancy had far greater problems. IMO Vista is far superior to XP. Stability (on the correct hardware) is also much better. Now if we were to compare it to other operating systems such as Linux, it would eventually come down to user choice. (Vista beat's out all the other operating systems when it comes to being user friendly.)
It is a useless OS. The purpose of an OS is to be a common ground for programs to run on. Vista is a pretty resource hog. It is no longer an OS. You have to confirm every action several times. It is far from user friendly, full of bugs, and incredibly inefficient. FP
-- Posted by Gabriel Gray at 11:11 pm on June 21, 2008
Quote: from FurryPanther at 12:00 am on June 22, 2008
Quote: from N e o at 11:57 pm on June 21, 2008
Quote: from FurryPanther at 11:20 pm on June 21, 2008
Quote: from CyberDr4gon at 11:19 pm on June 21, 2008
They're abandoning Vista?
How can they do anything else with such an utter failure? FP
Vista vs XP... Vista is the clear winner. The primary issue that Microsoft initially had with vista was forcing it to run on hardware that it wasn't designed for. With the UAC it completely eliminates the need for virus protection software. Assuming that the user is intelligent enough to only allow programs they can trust to run. Some find this annoying, but I personally like knowing what is going on. I recall XP while in it's infancy had far greater problems. IMO Vista is far superior to XP. Stability (on the correct hardware) is also much better. Now if we were to compare it to other operating systems such as Linux, it would eventually come down to user choice. (Vista beat's out all the other operating systems when it comes to being user friendly.)
It is a useless OS. The purpose of an OS is to be a common ground for programs to run on. Vista is a pretty resource hog. It is no longer an OS. You have to confirm every action several times. It is far from user friendly, full of bugs, and incredibly inefficient. FP
Let's put the easiest one aside first. On any modern day computer, memory isn't a problem. With 1gb now the standard, and more commonly 2gb. The standard hard drive size has also increased considerably. Confirming every action as I said, is a great security measure. (Which can be disabled if desired, but not recommended.) Having this feature is wonderful, and it saves me $40 a year on a virus protection suite. As it prevents both virus's and adware/spyware. I've been using Vista since RC1 Beta. Vista has been extremely stable on all 3 of my computer's without any major bugs. Any bugs I have encountered was long ago, and have since been fixed. Vista has also come a long way when it comes to compatibility with older programs. Vista did gain a lot of bad rep in the early day's, however as of now it appears to be an extremely strong system. Quick Question: Do you have vista?
-- Posted by FurryPanther at 11:19 pm on June 21, 2008
Quote: from N e o at 12:11 am on June 22, 2008
Let's put the easiest one aside first. On any modern day computer, memory isn't a problem. With 1gb now the standard, and more commonly 2gb. The standard hard drive size has also increased considerably. Confirming every action as I said, is a great security measure. (Which can be disabled if desired, but not recommended.) Having this feature is wonderful, and it saves me $40 a year on a virus protection suite. As it prevents both virus's and adware/spyware. I've been using Vista since RC1 Beta. Vista has been extremely stable on all 3 of my computer's without any major bugs. Any bugs I have encountered was long ago, and have since been fixed. Vista has also come a long way when it comes to compatibility with older programs. Vista did gain a lot of bad rep in the early day's, however as of now it appears to be an extremely strong system. Quick Question: Do you have vista?
It's not as safe as you think. I've seen viruses that can penetrate Vista. Vista isn't stable. I have to reboot every other day to start fresh and get rid of the accumulating errors. It's horrible. I do on my tablet. If I put on anything else, I lose my tablet functions. On my other laptop, I have Gentoo, and much prefer it. FP
-- Posted by Gabriel Gray at 11:28 pm on June 21, 2008
Quote: from FurryPanther at 12:19 am on June 22, 2008
Quote: from N e o at 12:11 am on June 22, 2008
Let's put the easiest one aside first. On any modern day computer, memory isn't a problem. With 1gb now the standard, and more commonly 2gb. The standard hard drive size has also increased considerably. Confirming every action as I said, is a great security measure. (Which can be disabled if desired, but not recommended.) Having this feature is wonderful, and it saves me $40 a year on a virus protection suite. As it prevents both virus's and adware/spyware. I've been using Vista since RC1 Beta. Vista has been extremely stable on all 3 of my computer's without any major bugs. Any bugs I have encountered was long ago, and have since been fixed. Vista has also come a long way when it comes to compatibility with older programs. Vista did gain a lot of bad rep in the early day's, however as of now it appears to be an extremely strong system. Quick Question: Do you have vista?
It's not as safe as you think. I've seen viruses that can penetrate Vista. Vista isn't stable. I have to reboot every other day to start fresh and get rid of the accumulating errors. It's horrible. I do on my tablet. If I put on anything else, I lose my tablet functions. On my other laptop, I have Gentoo, and much prefer it. FP
Vista is just as safe if not safer than anything else out there... The problem is that because it is so widely popular, it's targeted more often. This is why Linux and the Mac OS shine, when in reality it's rather simple to take over both without the user knowing. I've done it. Your tablet issues could be as simple as a few configuration setting's that need to be changed. First thing I would do is check for updated driver's manually by searching the net. I can guarantee you I'll get it working without a problem, if you still have it come November. (Assuming it's not a hardware issue.) 
-- Posted by FurryPanther at 11:36 pm on June 21, 2008
Quote: from N e o at 12:28 am on June 22, 2008
Vista is just as safe if not safer than anything else out there... The problem is that because it is so widely popular, it's targeted more often. This is why Linux and the Mac OS shine, when in reality it's rather simple to take over both without the user knowing. I've done it. Your tablet issues could be as simple as a few configuration setting's that need to be changed. First thing I would do is check for updated driver's manually by searching the net. I can guarantee you I'll get it working without a problem, if you still have it come November. (Assuming it's not a hardware issue.)
Exactly. That's the problem. Microsoft has a monopoly, and as such, they get more attackers. So they need to do better, which they aren't doing. It isn't a safe OS. I have yet to find one. I'd love to switch over, but I'll lose my features, or the function altogether. You can feel free to try. Dual boot with grub, and see if it works. FP
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